Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #4 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

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  • #121
She had an appointment for Saturday in Fremont, but look at this:

Sierra LaMar ‏ @cccairuh Close
@MoMo_Elisabeth wtf dude i know HANGOUT SOON. this weekend i wont be in fremont but next i will. So lets hangout then yeah?
5:37 PM - 14 Mar 12 via txt · Details

It was also mentioned in another tweet that she would not be in Fremont that weekend. I have to find it.

I wondered if she was doing something with her sister who just got home from school on break. Her sis had just spent two days with her dad in Fremont so maybe she was planning on coming to MH to see mom and sis.

I am kind of surprised mom hasn't said something that she might have been excited about, like her sister being there for the weekend. A hair color appt seems mundane in comparison, imo.
 
  • #122
Careful people I don't think tweets can be posted

I thought we were allowed to post Sierra's tweets, just not any other minors or sleuth people who aren't POIs.

Oops sorry if we're not.
 
  • #123
I know...curious, isn't it?
If she WAS going to Dad's and those were the clothes she was taken, why hasn't that been discussed? I don't understand this clothes thing. I would bet she has clothes at her dad's already but she may have wanted to take more. He tells us she had an appt. Her sister just arrived home from Sac State and yet we don't hear anything about her planning to go to Fremont that day.

It is very confusing.
I did not get the impression there was an appointment already set up.
So when was it set up?
If you knew you had one why would you say I'd like to do this when I come.
I am not clear on this and definitely not clear based on Dad's statements of,
you need to come back before your hair appt. Saturday!
Odd.
 
  • #124
I agree. Maybe someone found the rain the window of opportunity to get Sierra in the car with him/her/them. Someone she felt comfortable going with. Possibly a classmate or an acquaintance from the neighborhood. I am thinking they would have lived close by since it would have looked suspicious for someone far away just showing up unless there is a record of someone texting her about a ride. But nothing like that has been released. How long had she been at the new school?
I am behind...so you probably already have this question answered, but she started at Sobrato HS in October, when she moved with mom and mom's BF to Morgan Hill.
 
  • #125
"Appointment" at that age might mean a friend.

I just don't think this was planned...she's 15...I moved out at 17 and called my mom (that I hate) everyday.

IMHO
 
  • #126
I wonder if Sierra had an Instagram account? A friend of mine just told me about a stranger contacting her daughter through her Instagram about modeling for him. The daughter told mom immediately and it was deleted, but the mom was concerned that strangers could contact her daughter through it.

http://instagr.am/
 
  • #127
:banghead:
 
  • #128
Sierra and that other person were just messing around. Nothing was deleted. You can see the other person's tweet, that SL replied to with the pic, but I can't put it here since she's not a POI.

I just noticed Sierra wore glasses/contacts too I guess,
That has not been mentioned. FWIW
 
  • #129
I thought we were allowed to post Sierra's tweets, just not any other minors or sleuth people who aren't POIs.

Oops sorry if we're not.

:what: Now I'm not sure! I thought if it was on her wall?
Imma stop that then!
 
  • #130
I apologize for speaking out of turn, I am way behind on this thread.

Has info been released on what sides of the roads these items were? IIRC, LE would not say which side of the road regarding the purse. My thinking is like you guys one way is going to and one way is coming back. Where would they have been going to? I know the phone is in the direction opposite of the route to school.

Sierra's phone was located at the northeast corner of Scheller Avenue and Santa Teresa Boulevard

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-co...issing-girls-cell-phone-found-half?source=rss
 
  • #131
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  • #132
In searching out all details and info that we have regarding the clothes found in the juicy bag and the clothes she had on Friday morning, specifically the Sharks shirt that is seen in the photo I posted upthread.. I wanted to piece together everything that has officially been stated about these items.. Below are the snipped statements along with their corresponding links.. in gathering these details I now can find nothing stating the bra and panties are articles of clothing that were found in the juicy bag.. as you can see below even including the sheriff's statement made specifically about the juicy bag and the neatly folded clothes that were inside the bag.. there is nothing stating panties and bra? It states that there was a pair of pants(non descriptive and non specific) that were folded neatly in the bag and there was A "T-shirt" that they could only CONFIRM as "similar" to the Sharks T-shirt she is seen in the snapshot photo taken that morning(posted upthread) ..and that the T-shirt was also neatly folded inside the juicy bag.. according to LE the reason that it cannot be stated as confirmed that the T-shirt found folded in the juicy bag was the exact same as the T-shirt she was seen in the photo wearing is simply due to the fact that the angle of the camera only caught a small portion of the actual design of the shirt.. thus making it impossible to say with certainty they are the same..

Also below you will see where mom, Marlene is asked about the Sharks shirt and whether or not the Sharks shirt found in the juicy bag is the same shirt that Sierra is seen wearing in that mornings snapshot photo.. she said that she believes them to be but we learn that she actually has never personally even seen the bag or the articles of clothing that were in the bag.. in knowing that it certainly appears as tho her opinion would only be based upon what LE has shared with her and not her own personal knowledge from having seen the items herself..

I now am questioning where did we learn that there were not only panties and bra included in the articles of clothing but even more specifically it was stated clean and neatly folded panties and bra? Because in seeing LE statement about the bag and clothing it says nothing about either, nor does it even state there were undergarments found in the bag.. I know it was reported because it truly made me believe with her specifically having such that it was very likely that she was "seeing someone" intimately/romantically at some point that day or night..

The reason I believed such is much like someone else pointed out yesterday that a girl is not gonna be packing panties AND BRA for just a change of clothes or a spending the night with a friend.. but rather would do so for someone you were planning to be "intimate" with(and am in no way disparaging Sierra whatsoever am only offering up my opinion of POSSIBILITIES and nothing more) ... but if its now not even the accurate truth that there was also packed in the bra and panties then my entire thoughts on the issue are irrelevant and nonsensical:crazy:.. so where did we learn the info re: the panties and bra were among the articles of clean clothes neatly folded inside the juicy bag?

TiA :)

Here are the Sgt's words directly from his mouth per Presser:


Here are several different articles about the bag/clothes:


And then Marlene's statement to reporters regarding the bag/clothes:


I don't know:crazy:.. Sgt Cardoza calls it a "T-shirt" and then you've got reporters and fam referring to it as a "jersey" and a "sweatshirt".. all 3 of which are very different articles of clothing IMO.. my personal opinion is that it is quite likely ONE AND THE SAME(ie. Shirt worn in snapshot and shirt folded neatly in bag) and that "technically" it is exactly what LE called it.. its a long sleeve Shark's T-shirt.. that's jmo, tho.. still wondering about panties and bra tho? :waitasec:

To me, when mom says she hasn't seen the items (i.e. clothes and bag) I take it to mean she had not seen them SINCE they were found by investigators..and she couldn't tell reporter what condition they were in.

However..Do we know...had the mom seen the Juicy purse/bag/ ever?
Was it a gift to Sierra from someone that Sierra kept private? (person and bag?)
JMO
 
  • #133
To me, when mom says she hasn't seen the items (i.e. clothes and bag) I take it to mean she had not seen them SINCE they were found by investigators..and she couldn't tell reporter what condition they were in.

However..Do we know...had the mom seen the Juicy purse/bag/ ever?
Was it a gift to Sierra from someone that Sierra kept private? (person and bag?)
JMO

The Juicy bag was on her very first poster that her MOM gave to LE. Mom was very well aware of the Juicy bag. IMO.
 
  • #134
To me, when mom says she hasn't seen the items (i.e. clothes and bag) I take it to mean she had not seen them SINCE they were found by investigators..and she couldn't tell reporter what condition they were in.

However..Do we know...had the mom seen the Juicy purse/bag/ ever?
Was it a gift to Sierra from someone that Sierra kept private? (person and bag?)
JMO

Somebody posted upstream a statement by mom in an interview where she said that Sierra " LOVED that Juicy Bag."
 
  • #135
To me, when mom says she hasn't seen the items (i.e. clothes and bag) I take it to mean she had not seen them SINCE they were found by investigators..and she couldn't tell reporter what condition they were in.

However..Do we know...had the mom seen the Juicy purse/bag/ ever?
Was it a gift to Sierra from someone that Sierra kept private? (person and bag?)
JMO

Mom talks in depth about the Juicy bag in NG interview.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/23/ng.01.html
 
  • #136
:abduction: I'm outta here! Night all!
 
  • #137
Somebody posted upstream a statement by mom in an interview where she said that Sierra " LOVED that Juicy Bag."

Her mother joining us now and taking your calls. To Marlene LaMar. This is Sierra`s mom. She loved this purse. I don`t think she would ever have just ditched it on the side of the road, Ms. LaMar.

LAMAR: No, no. She did like that purse a lot and...

GRACE: OK, I want to go out...

LAMAR: ... she had it with her frequently.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/23/ng.01.html
 
  • #138
What do we know as fact in this case?
 
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  • #140
Not opposite really. If someone picked her up they'd go past her stop and on down the road.

Hey the only opinion I have made on my own so far... I think the "opposite" direction from her bus stop seems accurate here. You can head WEST instead of EAST toward the bus stop.

Seems the phone was found further off ST on Scheller for throwing distance FROM Santa Teresa. Just by viewing news videos. I think if they were on ST the whole time it would be closer to that street. However, you can drive the opposite direction from the bus stop and toss it out from Scheller before ST.

Then clearly turn right on Laguna, and that is opposite of the bus stop as well. Just my opinion...
 
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