Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #7 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

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She tweeted a very similar one on March 14. She tweets lots of silly stuff.

ok thanks. I haven't seen those tweets you're referring to.

 

[Reannan]

IMO. That Juicy bag was placed there, not thrown there.. By a female.. Full of rage at Sierra... A jealous rage...
perhaps she placed the bag there in hopes to return to the crime one day and have the bag for herself???
I can't see a male "placing" a bag ... I can see a male chucking the bag... But not secreting a bag... That to me screams female.... Neat, tidy, hidden...
The kidnapper obviously did not go through the contents of the purse... Otherwise in haste, the contents should have been not organized and "neatly folded" IMO...

boy, I sure miss the astrology forum where there is a case like this!

Exactly what I sense about this case too!!! The placement of the bag with clothes "neatly folded" in it sounds like a female thing to do - especially if the bag reminds you of someone you don't like. Purses are personal to most women, and the bag being discarded and hidden is a big clue IMHO. If it was a guy involved with the purse, why wouldn't he have just tossed it in a dumptser somewhere - or left it with Sierra, wherever she is? I can't help but think about the Shanda Sharer case back in 1992.

 

[sarx]

Just checking again, does anyone have a shot of the area where the bag was found?

 

[cluciano63]

That is not the link I saw.
So it is out there in other articles, too.

Me either, as I would never take anything said by an NG producer as anything more than...speculation/gossip/etc///JMO

 

[Whisperer]

Here is an Article where Cardoza says it is unclear the clothes found are the ones she was wearing.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Clue-Found-in-Sierra-Lamar-Disappearance-143815416.html

Thank you JDB. From your link. Just posted to state that underwear was confirmed.

.."Cardoza said a pair of pants, a shirt, a bra and a pair of underwear were neatly folded inside a Juicy brand purse". It was not clear if they were the clothes Sierra put on the morning she was last seen or if they were something she brought along with her. He said they contained no forensic evidence that pointed to a crime or a person of interest in the case. They said they did not release the information earlier because they were waiting on forensic evidence analysis.

 

[Ransom]

Just checking again, does anyone have a shot of the area where the bag was found?

Santa Teresa Blvd & Laguna Ave, Coyote, Santa Clara, California 95037 - Google Maps

 

[cluciano63]

If that jersey was a sleep shirt (as it appears to me that it could be) maybe she packed in case she slept over someplace that night, taking clean jeans, underwear and bar, knowing she could borrow a top, or wear the one she had on to come back home...she couldn't have fit much more into the infamous bag, IMO...

 

[cluciano63]

Thank you JDB. From your link. Just posted to state that underwear was confirmed.

.."Cardoza said a pair of pants, a shirt, a bra and a pair of underwear were neatly folded inside a Juicy brand purse". It was not clear if they were the clothes Sierra put on the morning she was last seen or if they were something she brought along with her. He said they contained no forensic evidence that pointed to a crime or a person of interest in the case. They said they did not release the information earlier because they were waiting on forensic evidence analysis.

OK this is a direct contradiction from what Sheriff said on Friday-she said NO results had come back on anything...
I would RATHER believe the sheriff, as if the clothes, etc. contained nothing useful, that is a really bad omen for this case. JMO

 

[houndstooth]

Me either, as I would never take anything said by an NG producer as anything more than...speculation/gossip/etc///JMO

Was the quote I paraphrased earlier more or less what you recalled reading also?

For some reason I want to think SJ Mercury News, but I could be wrong about that.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Exactly what I sense about this case too!!! The placement of the bag with clothes "neatly folded" in it sounds like a female thing to do - especially if the bag reminds you of someone you don't like. Purses are personal to most women, and the bag being discarded and hidden is a big clue IMHO. If it was a guy involved with the purse, why wouldn't he have just tossed it in a dumptser somewhere - or left it with Sierra, wherever she is? I can't help but think about the Shanda Sharer case back in 1992.

I think if there were any angry, jealous, females it would have popped out to LE in her social media. Her friends would know if there was some sort of tift going on and they would have investigated that in the beginning.

I am not convinced those were the cloths that she was wearing that day. I still think they may have been a spare set, taken from the dresser drawers.

I think if someone wanted to make it appear she ran away or was abducted as mentioned earlier, they would have left the stuff tossed in plain sight.

 

[JDB]

OK this is a direct contradiction from what Sheriff said on Friday-she said NO results had come back on anything...
I would RATHER believe the sheriff, as if the clothes, etc. contained nothing useful, that is a really bad omen for this case. JMO

This article was from a few days after they were found.

 

[Whisperer]

See, at least we get something out here. So many cases give us nothing.

 

[Reannan]

I could not agree with you more about the damn bag having bugged the crap out of me sense the get go..there is something just not right with it being in the case, period.. it does not fit in more ways than one.. so ill go ahead and say what's been in the back of my mind and the only way I can make the bag fit..

Please hold the tomatoes this is nothing more than a theory of the thousands already listed..

Here goes.. I am not going to even theorize on who the perp could be but rather just give the basics of how I see this purse fitting.. IMO it wasn't ever part of Sierras day.. meaning she never left with those clothes or books in that juicy bag.. IMO that juicy bag did not come into play until after Sierra had already been harmed and possibly even disposed of or hidden.. ..

Snipped by me.... Good point! How do we know that Sierra actually left the house that morning and walked to the end of the driveway? Taking the bag to "hide" still seems like unnecessary extra work.... unless you are an overly dramatic evil person who was immature enough to think that hiding a bag would somehow make the case unsolvable. No matter how I turn this over and over, I keep coming up with immature, out-of-control female as at least one of the perps! I would sure love to know who was absent from her current and prior school that day.

 

[Whisperer]

This article was from a few days after they were found.

I don't think Smith was contradicting anything. She said she wasn't aware of any results being returned yet. There were no forensic results found on examination according to Cardoza.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Sure, wouldn't any young girl? The thing is with the bag we saw, it has to be carried by hand. That poses a problem when you have books in the other. that leaves no room ro reach their cell easily.

She had to have an awful lot going on with her hands and arms when leaving that house.

You are too smart...This thought never crossed my mind, then when I read your post...Suddenly that little lightbulb appeared above my head.

 

[cluciano63]

I think if there were any angry, jealous, females it would have popped out to LE in her social media. Her friends would know if there was some sort of tift going on and they would have investigated that in the beginning.

I am not convinced those were the cloths that she was wearing that day. I still think they may have been a spare set, taken from the dresser drawers.

I think if someone wanted to make it appear she ran away or was abducted as mentioned earlier, they would have left the stuff tossed in plain sight.

She was having a problem with some girl...it was on one of her accounts right before she went missing...can't recall which site, but it was posted here early on. FWIW Hoping LE knows who, and has investigated that person, anyway.

 

[katydid23]

No self respecting Diva would use that strap. So she carried this in her hand with schoolbooks in the other.

My opinion is she didn't. It is not the type of bag you would carry going to school. Whatever happened to backpacks?

That bag bugs the heck out of me and just doesn't fit...nor do its contents.:banghead:

At my kids high school the girls usually used 'book bags' and not back packs.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think Smith was contradicting anything. She said she wasn't aware of any results being returned yet. There were no forensic results found on examination according to Cardoza.

No, her quote in posted on the previous page of this thread...she said they had not received ANY results back as yet and she did not know when they would. FWIW

 

[Wendy101]

I could not agree with you more about the damn bag having bugged the crap out of me sense the get go..there is something just not right with it being in the case, period.. it does not fit in more ways than one.. so ill go ahead and say what's been in the back of my mind and the only way I can make the bag fit..

Please hold the tomatoes this is nothing more than a theory of the thousands already listed..

Here goes.. I am not going to even theorize on who the perp could be but rather just give the basics of how I see this purse fitting.. IMO it wasn't ever part of Sierras day.. meaning she never left with those clothes or books in that juicy bag.. IMO that juicy bag did not come into play until after Sierra had already been harmed and possibly even disposed of or hidden.. I believe the idea about the bag was an afterthought for staging purposes.. I believe that the perp in a desperation to make it look as tho she was either taken on her way to school or had runaway the perp grabs the juicy bag, puts the clothes inside, gathers the school books and goes out and randomly hides these items where they were eventually discovered.. they wanted these items to eventually be found so that it would point toward Sierra being abducted while en route to school.. or that it may even be assumed as some sort of runaway with the clothes packed.. regardless of which one of those the important point is that it completely redirected LE and everyone from the real perp, and the real crime..

Yes, obviously the perp would have to be someone with access to the home.. but I'll leave it at that.. in the above described scenario the bags purpose, the bags contents, and even the bags placement suddenly all fit together..

There it is IMO.. IMO its why we cannot make sense of the damn bag.. jmo, tho and I am making no accusations.. :moo:

Eta: it would also make sense for why her normal things weren't in the bag.. make up, keys, brush, wallet, etc.. because she did not pack the bag.. the perp packed it after the fact as a way to misdirect attention from the real perp and real crime to an abduction or possible runaway.. jmo..

BBM.. Very interesting thought!

IMO: If she did not pack her bag, it is my opinion that a male that didn't know much about teenage girls packed it...

 

[cluciano63]

BBM.. Very interesting thought!

IMO: If she did not pack her bag, it is my opinion that a male that didn't know much about teenage girls packed it...

I suppose if a girl was involved, she took what she wanted from Sierra's bag before tossing it...just a thought.