Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #7 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

[GrainneDhu]

Is it at all unusual that they are only offering a $10,000 reward for her safe return?


Im not judging her family or anything, but that seems VERY low to me. If I were reading into this, I'd think maybe it means they believe she possibly ran away, or isn't completely being held against her will, and might return any day.

I dunno, but to me, if you think there is a high chance that your daughter is dead and isn't coming back, you'd offer something like
$100,000+.

Doesn't seem unusual for an initial reward to me.

Mom is an occupational therapist and Dad works for a computer start-up (so, probably a good living but not making a killing via stock options or anything like that).

I'd be surprised if the two of them could come up with $100K to offer as a reward unless they had some sort of corporate or foundation backing.

 

[cluciano63]

Sorry but they weren't there and didn't see her wearing those clothes. Marlene didn't see her wearing those clothes. The FBI should be dealing with facts and i don't see how they can 100% say the clothes in the bag were the ones she last wore. JMO

I agree...she was last SEEN wearing her pajamas, according to her mother...

 

[sarx]

well darn (stonehouse)

another mystery

(sarx, did you see the picture of where the purse was found? It was posted a few times for you)

I did, thank you!

 

[liltexans]

KlaasKids Needs Supplies to Aid Search Efforts for Sierra LaMar

KlaasKids volunteers are asking for the following supplies:

Gift cards to Staples or Safeway
Tecnu or similar poison oak lotion
Bug spray
The foundation is also asking for printer ink so volunteers can continue printing posters of the missing Sobrato High student.

Ink is needed for the following printers:

HP 6000 printer, needs HP 920 color and black ink
HP F4580 printer, needs HP 60 color and black ink
Lexmark printer, need color 33 and black 32

http://gilroy.patch.com/articles/klaaskids-needs-supplies-to-aid-search-for-sierra-lamar

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Sorry but they weren't there and didn't see her wearing those clothes. Marlene didn't see her wearing those clothes. The FBI should be dealing with facts and i don't see how they can 100% say the clothes in the bag were the ones she last wore. JMO

I dont think there is any evidence that the FBI of all angencies does not deal in facts. I have always found them very superior in that department.

We dont know how they can say this with 100% certainty but then they never tell anyone what they have learned in any investigation so they will not do it in this one either, imo.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I agree...she was last SEEN wearing her pajamas, according to her mother...

The world doesn't stand still anymore. A time stamped photo is just as valid a physical sighting. It is used countless times in many cases now and if this ever goes to trial this photo and the date stamp will also be entered as evidence to show what Sierra was wearing.

If LE has these same clothes, and I believe they do, then that will also be entered to support these were her clothes and what she was wearing at the time she was abducted, imo.

IMO

 

[LisaB]

...snip... Yes, things do change, but never have I seen LE come out and state publicly that someone is not involved in a case and then it turns out they were. Not once have I ever seen this happen over the decades of keeping up with true crime cases. So imo, nothing has changed concerning the three adults in the case. Sheriff Smith can all of a sudden do a 180 degree turn, but no one is going to forget her Media Officer Smith, or her detective, Cardoza, saying Marlene, Rick and Steve are not involved in the disappearance of Sierra.
...snip...

IMO

In the post you quoted by SmoothOperator, she mentions Cid Vilet. Initially police said he was NOT a person of interest. Recently they have done a 180 and have removed his children from his care until they can resolve the case of his mysteriously missing wife.

Thus, Mr. Vilet went from "Not a person of interest" to a "person of interest" over the course of a couple weeks.

Shawn Adkins was called a SUSPECT in Hailey's disappearance at a time when Billie Jean Dunn was considered "cleared". Subsequently, she was named a POI.

It may not happen often, but it DOES happen.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

In the post you quoted by SmoothOperator, she mentions Cid Vilet. Initially police said he was NOT a person of interest. Recently they have done a 180 and have removed his children from his care until they can resolve the case of his mysteriously missing wife.

Thus, Mr. Vilet went from "Not a person of interest" to a "person of interest" over the course of a couple weeks.

Shawn Adkins was called a SUSPECT in Hailey's disappearance at a time when Billie Jean Dunn was considered "cleared". Subsequently, she was named a POI.

It may not happen often, but it DOES happen.

I dont believe it is going to happen in this case either. Not only did LE say none of the three or suspects they also said none of the three are involved in Sierra's disappearance.

IMO

 

[OldSteve]

Gotta think that by now if Sierra was taken by someone from her school LE would have some clues about that via rumors circulating, who's been absent, who's acting strange... who ended social network contact with her right after she went missing...
IMO it would be difficult for young people to keep it secret, or hidden from others.... (okay, the lack of info about Lauren Spierer contradicts what I just said, but they're a bit older crowd)...

 

[liltexans]

In the post you quoted by SmoothOperator, she mentions Cid Vilet. Initially police said he was NOT a person of interest. Recently they have done a 180 and have removed his children from his care until they can resolve the case of his mysteriously missing wife.

Thus, Mr. Vilet went from "Not a person of interest" to a "person of interest" over the course of a couple weeks.

Shawn Adkins was called a SUSPECT in Hailey's disappearance at a time when Billie Jean Dunn was considered "cleared". Subsequently, she was named a POI.

It may not happen often, but it DOES happen.

The Blagg murders may have been similar as well. I don't know if LE actually announced at the beginning of the case that Michael Blagg was cleared, but if you read about the case, LE was looking everywhere but at Michael initially.
According to the link below, LE didn't even place Michael Blagg under surveillance until a few weeks after his wife and daughter "disappeared". Michael was also a normal looking and seeming guy. He was a Gulf War veteran with a decent job and very active in his church.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/blagg_abby.html

 

[krkrjx]

I found Stonehouse Winery and Stonehouse Vineyards but (per Google at least) there are none in that general area.

 

[liltexans]

Gotta think that by now if Sierra was taken by someone from her school LE would have some clues about that via rumors circulating, who's been absent, who's acting strange... who ended social network contact with her right after she went missing...
IMO it would be difficult for young people to keep it secret, or hidden from others.... (okay, the lack of info about Lauren Spierer contradicts what I just said, but they're a bit older crowd)...

I don't know if the kids would talk, but it would have been very easy for LE to see who wasn't at school either in Fremont or Morgan Hill that day or who was tardy to class.

 

[Ransom]

Don't think that it's important at all, but where did the "Stonehouse" information come from?

FBI but there is no player named Stonehouse with the Sharks. #16 is a different buy, name. Weird.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

The world doesn't stand still anymore. A time stamped photo is just as valid a physcial sighting. It is used countless times in many cases now and if this ever goes to trial this photo and the date stamp will also be entered as evidence to show what Sierra was wearing.

If LE has these same clothes, and I believe they do, then that will also be entered to support these were her clothes and what she was wearing at the time she was abducted, imo.

IMO

So the clothes in the JC bag were NOT a change of clothes. They were in fact Sierra's clothes she had worn that day, right? Le knows this from the time stamp. So we have no way of knowing if she changed into different clothing? ....two possibilities, nude or different clothes then time stamp?
Let's hope either way she is found alive.

 

[liltexans]

I wonder if any of Sierra's neighbors have been on vacation recently and had a housesitter staying on their property?

 

[paris_paris]

It's very common to buy your favourite teams jersey and have your own name put on it.

Maybe Sierra knew someone with that last name that gave her the jersey.

 

[LisaB]

...snip... She has these clothes on in the pic she sent at 6:39 to a friend and THOSE clothes were found that very same day thrown away along with her purse and books and Sierra is gone without a trace.

IMO

The photo doesn't show her entire outfit, unless there is a different version floating around that I have missed. All I saw was an oversized T-shirt or sweatshirt, apparently black with a white squiggly line that resembles the fin portion of the "Sharks" team logo. It was cut off a few inches below her shoulders (the photo, not the top).

We could not see, in that photo, if she was in jeans, a skirt, PJ pants, shorts, or even if the shirt had long or short sleeves.

We haven't seen the clothes in the bag at all.

What makes you say they are the SAME CLOTHES?

 

[LisaB]

...snip... I am not going to even theorize on who the perp could be but rather just give the basics of how I see this purse fitting.. IMO it wasn't ever part of Sierras day.. meaning she never left with those clothes or books in that juicy bag.. IMO that juicy bag did not come into play until after Sierra had already been harmed and possibly even disposed of or hidden. I believe the idea about the bag was an afterthought for staging purposes. I believe that the perp in a desperation to make it look as tho she was either taken on her way to school or had runaway the perp grabs the juicy bag, puts the clothes inside, gathers the school books and goes out and randomly hides these items where they were eventually discovered. ...snip... (T)he perp would have to be someone with access to the home. ...snip...
Eta: it would also make sense for why her normal things weren't in the bag.. make up, keys, brush, wallet, etc.. because she did not pack the bag.. the perp packed it after the fact as a way to misdirect attention from the real perp and real crime to an abduction or possible runaway.. jmo..

Some thoughts. Whoever grabbed Sierra would have probably been able to use her keys to get into the house. Since they seem to have abducted her at the end of the driveway, it would be easy to figure out which house was hers, and failing that, certainly she had her address on SOMETHING she was carrying, school ID? Library card?

ALso, the thing that makes me believe she did pack the bag is that the items (if we are getting the full story) included underclothes and an outfit. Someone "staging" probably would have either packed more stuff, or would have forgotten to put in undergarments. One question I would like to have answered is whether the items in the bag would have worked together. For example, if the shirt had been white, and the bra purple with green stripes, she may NOT have packed them, as she'd have realized the stripes would show through.

Anecdote time.

My daughter's dad got mad once and decided he was "leaving me". He went to the bedroom, stuffed a duffel bag and went out to his car. He sat there a while, then drove off, but came right back, having no real place to go. But as soon as he left, I went to the bedroom and saw he had emptied out his sock drawer into the bag but had not packed any other clothes. So I knew he wasn't REALLY leaving (that night). He was flustered and trying to get out as fast as possible, so he did not pack "practically" as Sierra seems to have.

 

[Kimster]

Tricia is on the ground with the searchers and tonight at 5PM PST we'll have a special edition of Websleuths Radio with Brad Dennis from KlaasKids!

Feel free to call in!

:bump:

 

[Tuba]

There is consensus that this piece of evidence sticks out like one o'clock. It was not successfully hidden nor was it in plain view. The placing of the clothing inside did not match any habit of the victim. There were no known plans necessitating that Sierra pack a bag. The bag is a puzzlement. She is said to have been wearing the very items inside.

There has been speculation, lots of it understandably, about this evidence. Some of our ideas:

a. The perpetrator wedged it between the cactus & the building so as to have convenient access to it later.
b. It is a false clue or red herring to muddle the investigation and project that this was a kidnap.
c. Sierra was coerced into folding the clothes inside and given the hope of retrieving the bag later.
d.This bag is meant to taunt searchers & investigators, a trump.
e. There was someone other than the perpetrator who found and handled the bag, wedging it where it was found or throwing it there.
f. The kidnapper went through the bag, looking for cash and then discarded it after folding the clothes.
g. The victim was told the bag was being stashed for later retrieval in order to quiet her hysteria.
h. The location is designed to misdirect, in terms of compass, investigators as to Sierra's whereabouts.
i. The bag was put where it was found sometime after Sierra was spirited away, likely after dark.