Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #7 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

[~n/t~]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Search-Continues-for-Sierra-Lamar-Wednesday-146904325.html

Hopefully one will lead to Sierra!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

My mind is still open to all possibilities.. I don't believe we have near enough info to know anything is for sure the truth of what really happened..

Thats true.

I am leaning more toward a stranger abduction because I think after 26 days LE would have found some type of link to an aquaintance by now.

IMO

 

[Tricia]

TONIGHT ON WEBSLEUTHS RADIO

THE TRAYVON MARTIN/GEORGE ZIMMERMAN CASE.

ALSO WILL UPDATE THE SEARCH FOR SIERRA LAMAR.

JOIN US IN JUST A FEW. 8 PM EASTERN/5 PM PACIFIC.

LISTEN HERE!!!!!!

 

[Kimster]

Our first guest on Websleuths Radio will be BRAD DENNIS who is in California leading the search for Sierra! The show will start in about 25 minutes! :seeya:

 

[90Nine]

I really dont have an solid opinion about that 90Nine. Great to see you btw.

All I know is Sheriff Smith did not know if the books were inside the bag or outside ( wish she would have asked her investigator about that before she came on to talk to the media) but she did say that the items may have been tossed from a moving vehicle. Now Marc Klass who has been on the ground there for sometime and I know he has spoken to LE .........says he believes the items were tossed from a window of a vehicle.

Thats all I know and Nancy asking Marlene if the books could fit inside and I think she said they would be 'squshed' but that tends to make me think that it was doable even though it may have been a tight fit.

If everything in the purse was tight then I can see why nothing would come out of the purse when tossed.

IMO

Got it! Nice seeing you too

I wish we knew...it would make a huge difference as to if they were hidden. I think if they were scattered a little or falling out a bit, then it would likely say they didn't plant it there. IMO.

I gotta check out the dimensions of this purse. It's hard to figure a pair of jeans, jersey/shirt, books, make-up, wallet fitting in it. I still wonder about the wallet and if she had an iPod with her.

 

[90Nine]

A sock is an odd choice, as far as smelling someone, clothes, tops especially are going to smell like the person, their beauty products, etc. I mean not to be gross but underwear may have other scents again on top of that, whereas a sock goes in a likely smellier shoe, furthest away from lingering shampoo, lotion, deodorant, perfume, makeup odours that we associate with a person unconsciously.

Maybe it's something small that is easy for her to carry around...just a thought.

 

[SmoothOperator]

What was the reason it was placed there? Imo, it was just a place to hide the evidence. We dont know how long it had layed there. It could have been done sometime on Friday too...we just dont know... all we know it took them until Sunday evening to find it. It wouldnt take them but a few minutes to put a distance away from her home. I certainly dont think they went back and hid it on Sunday. I think it was done on Friday and not discovered until Sunday. There was no assurances that it wouldnt have been found on the Saturday when they found the cell phone.

Of course he wasnt going to put the purse in plain sight. I really dont think he wanted it found just like a lot of other criminals throw things out that belongs to the victim thinking they have outsmarted police.

It looks like they picked that particular place to throw the purse out because it was abandoned.

No one that I know has said it was placed on the side of the building. When it was tossed it landejd behind the cactus and got wedged between it and the building. I looked at the photo again and it seems to have landed more behind the bushy cactus than closer to the building.

The phone being smaller in the tall grass would be harder to find but they found that right away.


Sorry, I am tired, and may not be understanding your post fully.

Above BBM..

With regards to the statement above that it has never been stated that the bag and books were placed on the side of the building.. I respectfully beg to differ..

As a matter of fact it has been stated more than once that it could have been placed there.. as seen below its just as much a possibility ..IMO if not more of a possibility.. nonetheless it definitely has been stated by LE and one more than one occassion

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/06/ng.01.html

SMITH: You know, it`s hard to tell. It could have been thrown. It could have been placed there. We can`t really tell. It looks like either could have been done.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hi ocean.. I believe if you go up to post 780 and click on the link to the theory that we discussed last night that it should all make better sense..

I realize it greatly differs from yours and that's OK, too..just because we may not agree on certain issues or cases I still have great respect for you and your posts.

Thanks, I will go back and re-read it. Too much sun today, I think. lol

Oh goodness, I respect you totally, and everyone on this site...no one has to agree with me, and it sure doesnt change the fondness I hold for so many here, and it never will. I have been at this way too long to start that foolishness now.

IMO

 

[liz b.]

I would love to know what the people in that cul de sac believe happened. I would be especially interested in hearing what the women/girls there have to say.... I wonder if they are frightened that there might be a predator close by ? MOO

 

[sarx]

Hi Sarx,

Question for you - so this occured on a Friday. How is it that the dogs could not trace her beyond the driveway if she supposedly walked to the bus stop everyday? wouldn't they pick up the scent from the other days?

I appreciate the insight.

Dogs are trained to follow the freshest trail only.

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

Had to take couple of days off from this thread. Started to see things that were not there.

Waiting for the show.
Not that it matters. But if the books were found on Sunday
than they should have been wet. Or showed signs of moisture because it did rain in the area between Friday and that Sunday.
At least that would tell us the chances are they were discarded the same day as the phone.

I am going to call the tip line and ask them if they checked the rental places. I am just curious about that. Probably waste of time. But they have received over a thousand tips and we are still looking.
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[imkeylime]

True.

But I have always wondered why this guy didn't remove the battery from the cell and dispose of it in a better way. It does seem like he expected or evn wanted it to be found. imo

IMO, someone was probably forced to throw the phone because Sierra was trying to use it. It seems logical, IMO, that the purse was placed after the fact, maybe in proximity to the phone to throw the search off track or keep it in the local area. What confuses me about what I just said is that means the perp would have looped back ... but maybe he has no choice, if he lives in the area. But her body is probably elsewhere.

 

[Wendy101]

Dogs are trained to follow the freshest trail only.

So that means the scent could have been from the night before?

 

[Eileen730]

IMO: this was a murder set up to look like a kidnapping.

I totally agree!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Above BBM..

With regards to the statement above that it has never been stated that the bag and books were placed on the side of the building.. I respectfully beg to differ..

As a matter of fact it has been stated more than once that it could have been placed there.. as seen below its just as much a possibility ..IMO if not more of a possibility.. nonetheless it definitely has been stated by LE and one more than one occassion

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/06/ng.01.html

Yes, I know that, in fact in the next post is where I posted that Sheriff Smith said it could have been thrown from a vehicle and Marc Klass has stated he thinks the items were thrown from a vehicle.

But what I was saying is I never heard anyone say it was PLACED on the side of the building. I know she also said the items could have been placed there.....I guess meaning someone walked up and put them in the spot.

Maybe I am just not making my post clear today. (sigh)

IMO

 

[JDB]

Had to take couple of days off from this thread. Started to see things that were not there.

Waiting for the show.
Not that it matters. But if the books were found on Sunday
than they should have been wet. Or showed signs of moisture because it did rain in the area between Friday and that Sunday.
At least that would tell us the chances are they were discarded the same day as the phone.

I am going to call the tip line and ask them if they checked the rental places. I am just curious about that. Probably waste of time. But they have received over a thousand tips and we are still looking.
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I know what you mean. Maybe I need to take a break myself from here. Seems all we are doing with no new info is beating the dead horses

 

[Eileen730]

Above BBM..

With regards to the statement above that it has never been stated that the bag and books were placed on the side of the building.. I respectfully beg to differ..

As a matter of fact it has been stated more than once that it could have been placed there.. as seen below its just as much a possibility ..IMO if not more of a possibility.. nonetheless it definitely has been stated by LE and one more than one occassion

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/06/ng.01.html

I remember them being described as SECRETED! Like they were hidden so my impression is that they did not believe the bag was tossed! JMO

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

Just called and talked with an officer. And they already checked the rental places for vehicles rented around that time and not returned. So I can forget it now.

 

[Ransom]

I know what you mean. Maybe I need to take a break myself from here. Seems all we are doing with no new info is beating the dead horses

I agree. I'm getting dizzy going in circles too.

See everyone at a later date. Be well folks.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

So that means the scent could have been from the night before?

No, it would be the freshest scent which led out of the home and down the driveway.

IMO