CA CA - Skip, 55, & Joni Tillman, 51, La Canada, 7 Feb 2000

[tamijt4]

We actually were part of the will. My father stopped contact with us when I was about 10 and my sister was 8. We still have contact with his mom and sister (my grandma and aunt). Social media wasn't what it is today, so we were aware of him a little, and he came back into our lives slightly when I reached out to him for help when my sister caused some issues in my life. Very soon after they were murdered. He was not exactly forthcoming will true details of the divorce from my mother which caused Joni to not welcome us with open arms, and therefore their friends were I guess leary of the situation. They have since become closer with me and have helped tremendously to at least get to know my dad handled his estate quite fairly considering the mess he had created. My sister had cast quite a dark shadow on things by not telling my dad the truth about what she had done to me as well. So I am grateful that befriending me was even a consideration to people who lead more of an "clean" lifestyle and don't usually consider a mess like this or hers part of their usual dealings. The woman who originally was in charge of his estate (I leave her name out so it is not searchable on the internet and to avoid issues of slander or fear of retaliation) I am to understand benefitted quite largely, had access to their home for weeks during the investigation, and may have been questioned at one time but has managed to prove herself as not suspect so far.

 

[StarrChance]

Thank you for asking. I had not asked for that. Amazingly I just finally got the the form to request a death certificate. One of those things that gets forgotten waiting for people to send you a copy and they never do. I will put it on my list of things to do.

My dog died in October, I almost passed last March and my husband just had major heart failure. My big break was going to come when we could get to CA for vacation and some poking around but that is on the way back burner now.

I had just posted on their wall that I was sorry I couldn't do more, and never anticipated that 17 years later there would still be no arrest or leads much less the possibility that I may not live to see this through either but here we are.

I will request it from the police or ask how I might get it and thanks for asking again. I do believe things happen for a reason and love that there are people who are "provoked" to do things and listen besides myself. will report back with what i find.

I was told on a couple of occasions that my fathers spinal cord had been pierced to subdue him, but will look into that report as we never really know what is spoonfed to us and what is known information truly.

Sorry you have been through such a hard time with you and your family health, had some issues health wise too, take time to get back to your best, its whats most important. Thinking of you, one step at a time

 

[Force Ten]

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[tamijt4]

My dad and his wife were murdered in CA in 2000. Harold (Skip) and Joni Tillman. I can't seem to get the ever rotating detectives to do much on this case. America's Most Wanted was approached to look at the case for a time and would never roll with it to my knowledge. I made another attempt to ask one of the "crime TV" shows to pick up the case but they stated they had to be invited by law enforcement to take a case. I am posting in the successfully solved case area hoping someone was in my position and was able to get someone to take a look at your case, and best of all solve it for you.

Thank you for any response. Blessings to those of you who have found closure and my heart goes out to you. Hope for anyone who still has no answers and I will pray for miracles for all of us. No one who takes another life should be free to walk around with the rest of us and left to do it again.

 

[TTF14]

I'm so sorry for your loss . Have you tried contacting any podcasters?

 

[Laughing]

tamijt4, you are one brave & resilient individual!

Is there a thread on WS for your family members already?

 

[fred&edna]

My dad and his wife were murdered in CA in 2000. Harold (Skip) and Joni Tillman. I can't seem to get the ever rotating detectives to do much on this case. America's Most Wanted was approached to look at the case for a time and would never roll with it to my knowledge. I made another attempt to ask one of the "crime TV" shows to pick up the case but they stated they had to be invited by law enforcement to take a case. I am posting in the successfully solved case area hoping someone was in my position and was able to get someone to take a look at your case, and best of all solve it for you.

Thank you for any response. Blessings to those of you who have found closure and my heart goes out to you. Hope for anyone who still has no answers and I will pray for miracles for all of us. No one who takes another life should be free to walk around with the rest of us and left to do it again.

I continue to think of you and the murders of Skip & Joni. I'm sorry you're still not getting better help on this case

I really believe contacting news reporters in the La Canada area would be of help, OR maybe connecting with John Lordan (he might consider this for one of his "Brainscratch" cases?). Even if unable to solve the case... this would at least bring it to a wider group of people and possibly push law enforcement into taking additional steps to solve it.

A link to John Lordan's Youtube channel:

LordanARTS

 

[tamijt4]

I'm so sorry for your loss . Have you tried contacting any podcasters?

May sound silly but I don't know what that is exactly. I assume something like how this site has Tricia doing interviews live but just guessing. Seems I have a lot to learn and would appreciate any direction.

 

[tamijt4]

I continue to think of you and the murders of Skip & Joni. I'm sorry you're still not getting better help on this case

I really believe contacting news reporters in the La Canada area would be of help, OR maybe connecting with John Lordan (he might consider this for one of his "Brainscratch" cases?). Even if unable to solve the case... this would at least bring it to a wider group of people and possibly push law enforcement into taking additional steps to solve it.

A link to John Lordan's Youtube channel:

LordanARTS

Thank you so much for responding. Will check it out. Tears rolling down my face as this had been put on the back burner and it's sad but funny how we just cope and keep moving along truly numb until a spark brings it to light again and just want to see someone answer for playing God when they had no right.

 

[Laughing]

Tamijt, try the prosecutor's office and ask for a Victim Advocate. That person's job is to help YOU. That person knows their way around the law enforcement officers & agencies in the area, and also the records room.

(Sorry is took me most of the week to remember this....)

 

[tamijt4]

Tamijt, try the prosecutor's office and ask for a Victim Advocate. That person's job is to help YOU. That person knows their way around the law enforcement officers & agencies in the area, and also the records room.

(Sorry is took me most of the week to remember this....)

Thank you, didn't realize this was so long ago. Lost my mom, almost lost my husband and I guess am just now coming out a 2 year fog (shock) over the whole thing. Trying to get back to this and may be able to afford a trip to CA soon.

 

[Laughing]

tamjit, wow, take care of yourself, please.

Start with email, you'll find someone to lay groundwork prior to you planned trip.

Best, Laughing

 

[tamijt4]

My fathers' only sister Darlene passed away on the 24th of April, 2019. She had battled, amongst other things, COPD and finally told her daughter "she was ready to go" and had her take her to the hospital. She passed peacefully in her sleep 2 days later. Everyone is gone except a sister who will probably never apologize to me but is finally out of prison as of last May. I have been unable to get my family to Disneyland or me to LA to look into things first hand. My husband is doing rather will after heart medication caused kidney failure. During his recovery period he was taken off most of his medication and his heart has managed to heal to a healthy 70% when they had told him never more than 60 with medication. I had a stint where both my legs had swollen and one opened a wound and wouldn't heal. 8 weeks in double soft casts healed that and legs, although no longer nice to look at, will remain mine for another period of time.

Hopefully soon we will get to CA. Get to the Sheriff's Dept. once again to say hello and see if anyone still remembers Skip and Joni Tillman at all. The person or people involved or responsible may or may not still be alive. I do know the person who gained the most from their death is still alive and I only wish my father had thought to "share in the weath" in some manner that would have left my children able to do the things I never could, like college, or travel or who knows. I have to believe maybe if he had they may have seen fit to let him live. I wish this would inspire someone to admit it was them and they could tell why.

Thank you all for all of the time and effort you have put into us over the years. You have helped me to remain strong and maybe it just wasn't supposed to be solved. That is sad, but sometimes people do---nevermind. May you all be blessed and may your time and efforts work well for someone who needs answers and need a place to make peace with them. Be safe and healthy <3

 

[Niner]

Hey tamijt4 - nice to see you here. Hopefully you'll get to LA soon & get to talk with the Sheriff's dept.!

And for ALL your family -

and no more medical problems!!

 

[tamijt4]

I just saw your post, that is how far behind I am, emails not read in a year and mail not opened for 3. Just hanging in there. The loss of most of family that was left, over my mothers death and the theft of her estate by my cousin, amongst other things has slowed me down. AAA put used oil in during an oil change and i had to put a new engine in my truck.. One thing after another keeping me from CA it seems. My cousin and second cousin on my dad's side would surely still like answers as would I, but I have little faith now that the people are even still alive really. but you never know do you. There are so many people being murdered or going missing these days it is sad and scary. I wish I had achieved a place in life where I could be more help solving more crimes and stopping more of the child predators somehow. I will stop for now as I don't want to project the depression I that I am warding off, I thought I had beat that too, but today it is lingering. So many here need so much help and a positive feeling. I haven't given up I am just worn down. Thank you all for your support over the years. It does help and you are all amazing. <3

 

[fred&edna]

I just saw your post, that is how far behind I am, emails not read in a year and mail not opened for 3. Just hanging in there. The loss of most of family that was left, over my mothers death and the theft of her estate by my cousin, amongst other things has slowed me down. AAA put used oil in during an oil change and i had to put a new engine in my truck.. One thing after another keeping me from CA it seems. My cousin and second cousin on my dad's side would surely still like answers as would I, but I have little faith now that the people are even still alive really. but you never know do you. There are so many people being murdered or going missing these days it is sad and scary. I wish I had achieved a place in life where I could be more help solving more crimes and stopping more of the child predators somehow. I will stop for now as I don't want to project the depression I that I am warding off, I thought I had beat that too, but today it is lingering. So many here need so much help and a positive feeling. I haven't given up I am just worn down. Thank you all for your support over the years. It does help and you are all amazing. <3

Good to see your post, Tami. Keep hanging in there.

 

[fred&edna]

I just saw your post, that is how far behind I am, emails not read in a year and mail not opened for 3. Just hanging in there. The loss of most of family that was left, over my mothers death and the theft of her estate by my cousin, amongst other things has slowed me down. AAA put used oil in during an oil change and i had to put a new engine in my truck.. One thing after another keeping me from CA it seems. My cousin and second cousin on my dad's side would surely still like answers as would I, but I have little faith now that the people are even still alive really. but you never know do you. There are so many people being murdered or going missing these days it is sad and scary. I wish I had achieved a place in life where I could be more help solving more crimes and stopping more of the child predators somehow. I will stop for now as I don't want to project the depression I that I am warding off, I thought I had beat that too, but today it is lingering. So many here need so much help and a positive feeling. I haven't given up I am just worn down. Thank you all for your support over the years. It does help and you are all amazing. <3

I was hoping Morf with Murder In My Family, or John Lordon might help. I did reach out to both some time ago -with links to this thread - but maybe those aren't the best avenues? Even if justice can't be served to the guilty, I still feel that knowing the truth could help all those who cared about Skip and Joni. Just my opinion.

 

[Laughing]

@tamijt4 , there's a depression support thread here, too, if that would help you!

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...agement-thru-the-abyss-thread-3.327578/page-5

Keep us in your loop when you're ready.

Best, Laughing

 

[fred&edna]

I *think* this was Skip and Joni's home. Obviously updated over the years but it was interesting to see the photos. I am going by the house number that was reported elsewhere.

5649 Bramblewood Rd, La Canada Flintridge, CA 91011 - realtor.com®

 

[fred&edna]

Oh my gosh!!! Just realized there's a podcast on the case - including a conversation with Tami! I haven't even listened yet! Episode 53 - Murder In My Family

THANK YOU, Morf!!!!

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