CA CA - Susan Jacobson, 59, Sun City/Roseville, 2 May 2013 - #1

[nikb]

Where are her car keys? As far as I know, her keys were not found.
If her car keys were left in the car, unlocked with purse present, that's a golden opportunity for grand theft auto. But the perp didn't want that.
Those keys are missing, and they are missing for a reason.
That wallet with ID was placed/thrown there for a reason.
The proximity of the wallet and car, in my opinion, was a thought out plan.
Why would a person steal her wallet out of the car, then drop it in that location? If there were cameras available in that particular area, that would alert LE to the fact of this perp on camera just stole Susan Jacobson's wallet, as that is pretty Dumb to leave her ID present with the car in the parking lot. That would also mean breaking and entering a vehicle (although unlocked) as well.
Why didn't the perp just drive off with the car? Who is to say that she even drove herself to the shopping center?
It's not the car they wanted.
And the credit cards. They could have been taken out of the wallet at home or elsewhere. Just because there were no credit cards in the wallet does not mean that they were there previously. It is an assumption that those cards were there that morning and stolen. Just like it is an assumption that those cards weren't in her wallet to begin with. The same with the cash. If she drove herself to the shopping center and wanted to purchase items, she would have to do so with cards or cash, (if she drove herself there).
There just isn't Enough Information available to the public.
What LE knows, they are Not releasing, like where the car was parked, how many doors were unlocked, where was her purse, how was the seat positioned, etc, what do the VIDEOS show? Who is on the video?? Who is Not on the video??
IMOO.

So many excellent questions Treelights.

Especially with the "scale down" of the search, would it be so bad to release some of whatever info they have to the public so that some of us could try to run with whatever they might have?

 

[scmom]

Praying for Susan.

 

[nikb]

Darn it... I was away all day and so hoping to at least see some kind of update on Susan.

 

[Treelights]

A lot of times now Susan slips to the second page here on Websleuths. There just isn't any new info that LE is releasing and I haven't heard of any searches.(other than one search with around 200 people that was in an article on the internet.)
I think Susan's case will be like some other cases. Some one will accidentally stumble upon her remains. Sad. IMOO.

 

[scmom]

How many searches have taken place? I've only found information on the one with about 200 people. One article on Fox40 states there were items found that needed further investigation. http://fox40.com/local-news/stories/missing-roseville-woman-susan-jacobson/
I understand there were dogs used; what type of dogs? Sadly, I believe human remains dogs should be used now to search for Susan. If the PD doesn't have their own dogs why can't they call in another organization?
http://www.csst.org/
If I found this link in less than 5 minutes, it seems to me that LE would have a much better idea on who to call to further this investigation.

 

[scmom]

I found an interesting abduction and rape on July 4th only a few minutes away from where Susan disappeared.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...Kidnapping-Rape-of-Mall-Worker-215271251.html
Another article from today about the above.
http://www.loscerritosnews.net/2013...ope-valley-man-charged-intopanga-kidnap-rape/
I'll try to post the link to the map showing the distance. If it doesn't work, go to Google maps and directions from Raley's to Topanga Westfield Mall.

 

[Treelights]

I found an interesting abduction and rape on July 4th only a few minutes away from where Susan disappeared.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...Kidnapping-Rape-of-Mall-Worker-215271251.html
Another article from today about the above.
http://www.loscerritosnews.net/2013...ope-valley-man-charged-intopanga-kidnap-rape/
I'll try to post the link to the map showing the distance. If it doesn't work, go to Google maps and directions from Raley's to Topanga Westfield Mall.

The thing with Susan's disappearance /abduction is the fact that if credit cards were in her wallet and taken out by the perp, the cards have not been used.
In Susan's case, if she was taken by a perp, that perp did not take her in that car, unless that happened previously,and the car then deposited in the shopping center, so I don't see the similarities in the cases, except that Susan is no where to be found and her car and wallet were found in the shopping center parking lot, but who is to say that she even drove herself to the shopping center... IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

For me what stands out, or what doesn't stand out depending on semantics, is what is the true motive for Susan being missing?
It wasn't theft of her car. It wasn't to use her credit cards. It wasn't to break in her house.
The motive is Susan herself, IMOO. But why?

 

[Eileen730]

The thing with Susan's disappearance /abduction is the fact that if credit cards were in her wallet and taken out by the perp, the cards have not been used.
In Susan's case, if she was taken by a perp, that perp did not take her in that car, unless that happened previously,and the car then deposited in the shopping center, so I don't see the similarities in the cases, except that Susan is no where to be found and her car and wallet were found in the shopping center parking lot, but who is to say that she even drove herself to the shopping center... IMOO.

I do not believe she was ever in that shopping center.

 

[mikkismom]

Search Continues for Missing Roseville Woman Susan Jacobson

http://roseville-ca.patch.com/group...es-for-missing-roseville-woman-susan-jacobson

 

[Treelights]

Search Continues for Missing Roseville Woman Susan Jacobson

http://roseville-ca.patch.com/group...es-for-missing-roseville-woman-susan-jacobson

But what search? A new flyer? Is there an organized search for Susan? I did not read that in the article, except that it says the search continues.

And by the way Mikkismom, thanks for the link to the article!

 

[nikb]

I found an interesting abduction and rape on July 4th only a few minutes away from where Susan disappeared.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...Kidnapping-Rape-of-Mall-Worker-215271251.html
Another article from today about the above.
http://www.loscerritosnews.net/2013...ope-valley-man-charged-intopanga-kidnap-rape/
I'll try to post the link to the map showing the distance. If it doesn't work, go to Google maps and directions from Raley's to Topanga Westfield Mall.

I'm wondering if you're looking at Sun City, CA the city? Susan lives in Sun City retirement community in the city of Roseville, CA, just outside of Sacramento. There is a Westfield mall in Roseville, called Westfield Galleria at Roseville.

These articles are both referring to a Westfield Topanga mall that's in Southern CA and probably 6+ hours away from where Susan disappeared, unless I'm missing something. I do appreciate the articles and am glad to see interest in Susan's case! I just wanted to clarify the location, and also make sure I'm not missing something if there's a possible link.

 

[Treelights]

I'm wondering if you're looking at Sun City, CA the city? Susan lives in Sun City retirement community in the city of Roseville, CA, just outside of Sacramento. There is a Westfield mall in Roseville, called Westfield Galleria at Roseville.

These articles are both referring to a Westfield Topanga mall that's in Southern CA and probably 6+ hours away from where Susan disappeared, unless I'm missing something. I do appreciate the articles and am glad to see interest in Susan's case! I just wanted to clarify the location, and also make sure I'm not missing something if there's a possible link.

I made the same mistake looking up info about Sun City; it's easy to do, especially when you don't live in California!

 

[nikb]

I made the same mistake looking up info about Sun City; it's easy to do, especially when you don't live in California!

Yes, for sure! It jumps out at me because I'm looking at city names and scratching my head thinking how they don't sound familiar and I've lived in the Sacramento area most of my life, but I can see how it's very confusing. I do want to make sure I didn't miss something in the articles too though.

 

[Seajay]

For me what stands out, or what doesn't stand out depending on semantics, is what is the true motive for Susan being missing?
It wasn't theft of her car. It wasn't to use her credit cards. It wasn't to break in her house.
The motive is Susan herself, IMOO. But why?

Treelights, nice way to narrow it down. Motive. What was the motive for Susan's disappearance. As you stated, it wasn't the car, it wasn't the credit cards. It had to be Susan, yet there has been no ransom demand. So why would someone want Susan??? I don't see a stranger abduction of Susan without having demanded a ransom. Why take her and not her car or use her credit cards??? Why else would someone bother was taking a stranger?? Unless she wasn't a stranger to someone. Yet her circle of acquaintences was very small, she hardly knew anyone, was socially awkward. Who would want Susan and for what?? Someone familiar. I wonder if she had a secret admirer she didn't know about who had a thing for her and had his eye on her and decided he wanted her?

That's kind of far-fetched, I know but stranger things have happened. She's a very petite and pretty lady.

I dunno, just rambling here, trying to follow this line of thinking......if Susan is the motive, why???

 

[cluciano63]

Yeah, I posted about motive like a month ago...what could it be? Why take the credit cards? To make something else look like robbery? But what random predator would care about that?

 

[nikb]

Agree with everyone who's posted tonight on motive - WHY? I can't think of any good logical reasons.

The only other thing I can think of just popped into my head today. Could it maybe be random gang stupid-ness that has nothing to do with "who" is hurt as long as someone is? AFAIK the gangs aren't extremely bad out in that area but we do have gang activity in the greater Sacramento area overall, including Roseville. All of the gangs locally I can think of are racially based and Susan wouldn't really fit the profile for any of them race-wise, but if someone was trying to get into a gang would that be a motive for hurting her? I have such a hard time thinking of a "logical" reason for her to be missing, I guess this non-logical one came to mind. It might explain the non-usage of credit cards, and lack of care as to where her wallet was found or taking her car (they don't want the money, they want to get 'jumped in' - I'm sure even my gangsta terminology is out of date, but I know I do still hear about it). What if the motive wasn't even Susan, but the motive was being a ?

It's a stretch I know...

 

[nikb]

I found an interesting abduction and rape on July 4th only a few minutes away from where Susan disappeared.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...Kidnapping-Rape-of-Mall-Worker-215271251.html
Another article from today about the above.
http://www.loscerritosnews.net/2013...ope-valley-man-charged-intopanga-kidnap-rape/
I'll try to post the link to the map showing the distance. If it doesn't work, go to Google maps and directions from Raley's to Topanga Westfield Mall.

I forgot to say earlier, thanks scmom for the post! Please keep posting. I don't know why I feel quite so strongly about this case but I just feel like we've GOT to find Susan, and the more of us looking for any clues, the better shot we have. I've been following her case from the beginning and I so appreciated seeing your post earlier.

 

[Treelights]

It is difficult/challenging to make sense of a motive for Susan. I could give examples of motives, but since we are "limited" on what we can say here, I can't express the realm of All ideas.
I hope Susan is found alive, and if not, I hope her remains are found.
Susan deserves that!
I want to keep posting on Susan but I feel I don't have anything to add except fantasy ideas what could have happened to her, which I don't believe happened to her.
God Bless you Susan, and there are Many People that care about you. IMOO.
I will check in from time to time, but for now I bid adieau.
IMOO.

 

[cluciano63]

Agree with everyone who's posted tonight on motive - WHY? I can't think of any good logical reasons.

The only other thing I can think of just popped into my head today. Could it maybe be random gang stupid-ness that has nothing to do with "who" is hurt as long as someone is? AFAIK the gangs aren't extremely bad out in that area but we do have gang activity in the greater Sacramento area overall, including Roseville. All of the gangs locally I can think of are racially based and Susan wouldn't really fit the profile for any of them race-wise, but if someone was trying to get into a gang would that be a motive for hurting her? I have such a hard time thinking of a "logical" reason for her to be missing, I guess this non-logical one came to mind. It might explain the non-usage of credit cards, and lack of care as to where her wallet was found or taking her car (they don't want the money, they want to get 'jumped in' - I'm sure even my gangsta terminology is out of date, but I know I do still hear about it). What if the motive wasn't even Susan, but the motive was being a ?

It's a stretch I know...

If random, I think her body would have been found, especially if a gang-type thing. Hiding a body would not be as essential if the perp(s) could not be linked to her in any way.