CA CA - Susan Jacobson, 59, Sun City/Roseville, 2 May 2013 - #2

[scmom]

Normally the police work from those closest to the victim out. What does it say when there is no information given to the public? Seems to me it could be LE trying to get their ducks in a row.

 

[nikb]

To me, if Susan never went to the parking lot, it means a lot. It means that her car was put there, and put there for a reason. Given that she was supposed to go shopping there, the car ended up being where it was supposed to be, so if Susan never arrived, who put her car there?
Susan's husband said in an interview that she had errands to run and things to catch up on, so, to me, that means more than just going to the grocery store. I previously wondered what other things did she have to catch up on, but there was no answer to that, just like many things in Susan's case. Many are left wondering about basically almost everything, as very little is known about Susan.
IMOO.

Very good points, Treelights. I keep thinking if she's not on video at all it might just mean her car was parked somewhere really hidden, but who knows.. it could mean she was never there are at all. It's so hard to 'prove' someone WASN'T somewhere. Like you said, there are so many questions that IMO don't seem like they should be that hard to answer. Frustrating!

 

[nikb]

Not to get too far off into the realm of personal stories but I keep thinking about my grandma, who was pretty much verbally and emotionally abused by my grandfather. She lost touch with her friends, seemed nervous even when she was around family, and I'm sure most would have called her a "homebody." Even so, she was known by her neighbors - they knew when she went out to get the mail, said hello when they saw her, that kind of thing.

I'm not trying to say or imply that Susan was abused in any way, but it just baffles me that no one else has come forward about Susan being missing. It's not like they live on acres of land where no one would ever see her going about her day to day business. Neighbors..store clerks.. her sister... SOMEONE has got to know something.

 

[nikb]

Normally the police work from those closest to the victim out. What does it say when there is no information given to the public? Seems to me it could be LE trying to get their ducks in a row.

Oh how I hope you're right.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I saw a picture of Susan, from when she was much younger. She was goofing off in the picture, making a silly face. That suggests to me that Susan is not some two dimensional personality.
This whole situation makes me sad and very angry.

Thank you!

These are the kinds of pictures we should be viewing and sharing of Susan...

They make her more 3 dimensional..

Easier to connect to...

JMO

 

[TxLady2]

Normally the police work from those closest to the victim out. What does it say when there is no information given to the public? Seems to me it could be LE trying to get their ducks in a row.

It means either they don't know very much, or they don't think it's necessary to share with the public what they do know. Or both.

I don't think they have any suspects at this point, so what could they possibly share with the public? If no one saw her being abducted, no one saw the car entering the parking lot or who was driving the car, then there isn't really much else they can tell us that would help locate her.

 

[Treelights]

It means either they don't know very much, or they don't think it's necessary to share with the public what they do know. Or both.

I don't think they have any suspects at this point, so what could they possibly share with the public? If no one saw her being abducted, no one saw the car entering the parking lot or who was driving the car, then there isn't really much else they can tell us that would help locate her.

Why not share Exactly where the car was parked in the parking lot? LE hasn't even shared that with the family......so that must mean something. If it didn't, why not share that info? LE shared that the car was unlocked. LE shared that the police found the car in the parking lot.
Sounds like LE has some info, but they might not have all the pieces of the puzzle yet. IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

Normally the police work from those closest to the victim out. What does it say when there is no information given to the public? Seems to me it could be LE trying to get their ducks in a row.

Right. For LE not to give much info about the car, other than it was found unlocked somewhere in the parking lot with her purse in it, it's telling to me.
How was the driver's seat positioned? If it was placed so that a short statured person such as Susan couldn't reach the pedals well, that would be an indication that perhaps she did not drive herself there. The car being unlocked when she was meticulous about her safety (the way she positioned her purse when walking with it, etc) is also unusual.
Susan's case tells a lot about what she does Not do. The only things that tell us what she does do, is drive farther away in the parking lot so that she doesn't get dings in her car from other cars, and the car was found where she said she would be.
If Susan wasn't coming back and left on purpose, why park so far away? Why park there at all? Certainly she wouldn't care how many dings the car got if she was never going to return to it.
Why not use those "missing" credit cards?
Were those cards ever in her purse to begin with, or were they taken out of her purse so they couldn't be used? If so, then who took them out of her purse?
Too many questions, and I seem to be making the same points over and over again ad nauseam.
This case is very sad.
IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

One thing that is strange and peaks my curiosity, is the fact that the car keys(and house keys) were not found with the vehicle. It's as if the car was "meant" to be found where it was "supposed to be", but not Stolen from there. The unlocked car was an invitation for someone, anyone to see the purse inside the vehicle, and perhaps the reason it was "left" in the car, was so that maybe someone, anyone who wanted to steal the purse would have their prints on that vehicle. The wallet was found in that same shopping center on the outside near the street. With cash and credit cards missing, it "looks" like a theft, but yet those cards weren't used.
Was the point the car Had to be there, and the wallet Had to be found with ID in it to identify Susan? Who is to say how much cash was in her wallet, and with the credit cards not used, it's as if the person did not want any theft going on, just make it look like a theft occurred. Mighty strange, and seems like a plan, to me.
And I have not heard any reports saying anything was missing from Susan's house, so the missing house keys were not used to burglarize her house.....
IMOO.

 

[sreshowtime]

I wonder if LE got any finger prints off the wallet, excusing the person who found it? Or off anything
A wallet is pretty personal...I know there are no other fingerprints on mine, BUT mine
Or even on my purse

 

[Eileen730]

To me, if Susan never went to the parking lot, it means a lot. It means that her car was put there, and put there for a reason. Given that she was supposed to go shopping there, the car ended up being where it was supposed to be, so if Susan never arrived, who put her car there?
Susan's husband said in an interview that she had errands to run and things to catch up on, so, to me, that means more than just going to the grocery store. I previously wondered what other things did she have to catch up on, but there was no answer to that, just like many things in Susan's case. Many are left wondering about basically almost everything, as very little is known about Susan.
IMOO.

I'm starting to think Susan vanished long before she was reported missing jmo

 

[Eileen730]

Anyone ever notice the only person to see her was hubby we don't know when the last non family member to see or talk to her was and when

 

[Dixie811]

I am going to assume the car had zero body damage (even small marks).

Here on WS I see SOO many cases where the catalyst for a disappearance seems to be a car wreck or fender bender. Even a small one, where the individual driving was not hurt. Then shortly thereafter, without explanation, the individual has disappeared.

I'm sure this is not the case with Susan, as I doubt LE would have concealed if there were even a minor ding on Susan's car that the family was not aware of prior. Bumping into someone's car in a parking lot is an effective way to get them out of their car and vulnerable, IMO.

My thinking on Susan's case is getting a little ridiculous, with no new information to think on. Just throwing my thoughts out there.

 

[Treelights]

I'm starting to think Susan vanished long before she was reported missing jmo

Just the way things are adding up (or Not adding up) makes it seem that way, huh!
IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

3 weeks since the facebook page for Missing Susan was updated.
21 days is a long time not to wish their loved one was home.
21 days is a long time not to plea to the perp to let her go.
21 days of silence.
IMOO.

In actuality I have never heard a plea once to let Susan go..........
She has been missing since May 1st, or reported missing then.........
35 years of marriage Susan had.
21 days of silence........
SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

CITY ORDINANCE OF ROSEVILLE, CALIFORNIA

http://qcode.us/codes/roseville/view.php?topic=10-iii-10_36&showAll=1&frames=on

10.36.010 Registration required.
No person shall visit any house within the city to solicit orders for, to peddle, or to hawk goods, services or merchandise unless he shall first be registered with the police department. This section shall not apply to the acts of members of any association or society for benevolent or charitable purposes or for the purpose of assisting or aiding any church or like organization. The requirements imposed by this section are in addition to the requirement of Title 6 of this code regarding business licenses. (Ord. 2290 § 1, 1990.)

http://www.roseville.ca.us/faqs/categoryqna.asp?id=13#8363

"Is soliciting allowed in the City of Roseville?"

"Soliciting is allowed, however, there are restrictions. People are required to have a City of Roseville business license, and to register with the police department before conducting door-to-door soliciting.

If you don't want solicitors at your property, you can display a "no soliciting" sign. Solicitors are required to respect this sign and refrain from knocking on your door.

Religious and charitable groups are exempt from the requirement to register with the police department, but are required to respect the "no soliciting" sign.

People can still leave flyers or advertisements on your property, whether or not you have a sign posted. Higher courts have ruled that the leaving of flyers or leaflets is commercial free speech protected under the constitution, so cities and other government entities can't make laws prohibiting such activity."


So, basically contacting the Roseville Police Departments is the FIRST STEP TO REGISTERING WITH THEM TO SOLICIT.

To me, this means, that through PROPER PAPERWORK THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FAMILY, AND PUBLIC CAN THEN GO DOOR TO DOOR AND TALK TO PEOPLE, PRESENT MISSING FLYERS OF SUSAN AND GET THE WORD OUT THAT SUSAN IS MISSING.
This is not registering a business to solicit, but still in order to solicit proper channels have to been taken.
But with that said, it also states that this does not apply to BENEVOLENT PURPOSES, BUT the best thing to do is contact the Roseville Police to make sure it is within the law.

IMOO.

 

[sophiebelle]

This whole thing is awkward and has been from day one. All that's been said of Susan is how much a hermit she was, shy, backwards it seems, and it makes me wonder if the whole lot of them are that way. Seems she had no friends, never left home except to grocery shop or walk the dog. Maybe the family is not aggressive and neither is LE. Maybe the cops get little from them, nor is LE pestered/pressured by family either. I think this was not taken seriously by LE to begin with, for various reasons. Whatever happened, it needs to be resolved.

 

[cluciano63]

I am not inclined to jump too much on the family, as the situation is too similar to my own. I live with my husband but no other relatives live in the same state, except his one sister, who is also kind of semi-reclusive, as am I. I have a few friends but seldom actually see them, due to my health issues, mostly stay in touch online. My husband would not know what to do, beyond trying to keep in touch with police, and if one of my sisters flew in, they would not be able to stay long, due to their jobs, etc.

Maybe her husband has stayed in touch with LE and has tried to gain media attention. We can't know for sure. But I do think her son could take advantage of some of the many suggestions and ideas put forth here.

JMO

 

[Treelights]

It really is like pulling teeth trying to get more exposure for Susan.
Even with all the great suggestions!
IMOO.

 

[nikb]

I'm starting to think Susan vanished long before she was reported missing jmo

I'm starting to agree with you, but I just have to wonder, why bother reporting her missing if that's the case?