CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #1

[Eileen730]

I saw something VERY interesting on local news tonight-- A VIDEO-----been trying to find it online.

It showed a white vehicle backing into the driveway, up to the garage door. And the reporter said it was the car of a family member, and they stayed for about 15 minutes.

So I guess that was nephew. Wonder why he backed up into the drive? Was he borrowing equipment? Moving a rolled up rug?

Oh I think William left in that vehicle.

 

[Dushi]

Misprint?

Cierzan’s truck was parked outside their home. His wallet, keys and jacket were left inside the vehicle.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/02/01/santa-clarita-missing-man/

 

[LisaWL7TR]

I think he roasted a chicken in the oven and then set it on the counter to cool. Maybe they were having a taco salad for dinner?

The bizarre disappearance of William Cierzan
By Jim Holt - January 27, 2017, 6:49 pm
https://signalscv.com/2017/01/27/bizarre-disappearance-william-cierzan/

At 5 p.m., the wife called again and he said the chicken was cooked.

But, two hours later, Cierzan’s wife, Linda, arrived home and found the chicken cooked, with the oven turned off.

Her husband’s wallet, keys, and coat were in the house, with credit cards and money in the wallet. The family dog was in the house.

But, there was no sign of Cierzan.​

Ooof...I missed the mention of oven!

 

[katydid23]

Oh I think William left in that vehicle.

Thats what I thought too. But then I read here that his wife spoke to him on the phone and he said his nephew had come and gone already. Is wife making that up?

 

[sassyblue]

I saw something VERY interesting on local news tonight-- A VIDEO-----been trying to find it online.

It showed a white vehicle backing into the driveway, up to the garage door. And the reporter said it was the car of a family member, and they stayed for about 15 minutes.

So I guess that was nephew. Wonder why he backed up into the drive? Was he borrowing equipment? Moving a rolled up rug?

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017...under-bizarre-circumstances/?e=te7V*Z7IWACqGg

 

[Lynnieth]

Thats what I thought too. But then I read here that his wife spoke to him on the phone and he said his nephew had come and gone already. Is wife making that up?

Or was he being forced to speak with his wife on the phone as if everything was okay?

 

[Lots2Learn]

Impatiently waiting for news conference


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[Elainera]

Really interesting tidbit... found a random lady on FB who commented that she lived in that house from 1988-1990. She mentioned how they would climb up the back wall, as kids, to get to the businesses behind.

If the surveillance camera didn't catch anything, I hope they searched every bit of space inside that house. I guess it's possible, but I can't imagine William Cierzan climbing a wall. I wonder how high it is.

bbm - see the google map image of the back of the house in marinthinker's post below. The wall looks about 5ft high to me? I think he could have climbed it, he doesn't look unhealthy or too heavy or unfit to me.

View of the back of the house from Bouquet Canyon Road a while ago. It may have changed.

https://goo.gl/maps/2vod599zG812​

If he went out the back door, it's hard to imagine him climbing his back fence. Is there a gate that I'm missing? Maybe there's a side door to a neighbor's house that the camera would not see.

Scent dogs would be helpful. Not sure if they've been used. It's not too late to give them a try...

I don't believe the nephew is involved in William's disappearance. I think William left out the back and something happened elsewhere.

 

[sassyblue]

After viewing the video of the SUV I'm not sure the security camera from the neighbor across the street could have picked him up leaving on foot from the front of his house. The viewing angle seems too low unless that video was cropped and there was more of the scene in the actual footage.

 

[Dushi]

I may have missed this, but what time did the white vehicle arrive at William's home?

 

[Dushi]

I may have missed this, but what time did the white vehicle arrive at William's home?

I listened again and it says late afternoon.
I wonder if William and his wife spoke after that.

 

[Eileen730]

Thats what I thought too. But then I read here that his wife spoke to him on the phone and he said his nephew had come and gone already. Is wife making that up?

Jmo I don't think she spoke to him. And is it possible she was talking to the nephew?

 

[Eileen730]

He sounds like this really nice happy guy?
What the heck could have happened?

 

[sassyblue]

The time stamp on the video says 17:06:38 when it arrives and 17:12:03 when it leaves if I'm seeing the numbers correctly. That is certainly not a 15 minute stop. And if the clock is set correctly on the neighbors security system that would be after 5 PM and after the calls with the wife.

 

[sassyblue]

https://signalscv.com/2017/01/27/bizarre-disappearance-william-cierzan/

"On Thursday, with family members looking frantically everywhere for the man they describe as a homebody, they learned something that only deepened the mystery.

They watched the home surveillance video shot by their neighbor across the street which recorded all movement at the front of the Cierzan house on Thursday.

“The video shows he never left the house,” Peck said. “No friends drove up. No one came to the door."

So why did the family make this statement when clearly a relative's SUV came to the house? So strange.

 

[katydid23]

I listened again and it says late afternoon.
I wonder if William and his wife spoke after that.

Jmo I don't think she spoke to him. And is it possible she was talking to the nephew?

I thought she called him and he told her that their nephew had left and he finished cooking the chicken?

 

[Dushi]

I thought she called him and he told her that their nephew had left and he finished cooking the chicken?

That is what I recall also

 

[Eileen730]

The time stamp on the video says 17:06:38 when it arrives and 17:12:03 when it leaves if I'm seeing the numbers correctly. That is certainly not a 15 minute stop. And if the clock is set correctly on the neighbors security system that would be after 5 PM and after the calls with the wife.

Very very interesting!

 

[katydid23]

The time stamp on the video says 17:06:38 when it arrives and 17:12:03 when it leaves if I'm seeing the numbers correctly. That is certainly not a 15 minute stop. And if the clock is set correctly on the neighbors security system that would be after 5 PM and after the calls with the wife.

If that car backed up to the garage AFTER the call with his wife----WOW.

It kind of concerns me because the main reason someone backs up to a garage is to carry something very heavy to and from.

 

[Eileen730]

Makes a bit more sense now.
Someone went to the house or the nephew returned to the house after the time he spoke to his wife.