CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #1

[SmartSassyBBW]

So if a perp scaled the fence what happened to William?


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[Treelights]

How can the thread be made private here on websleuths? Or...??
Newbie asking because I don't know.
You can pm me.

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Maybe Gig Tu means downstairs, kind of like the Scanner Threads, where scanner threads are only for those who log in on WS...private, not for general public consumption?

IMOO.

 

[liz b.]

So if a perp scaled the fence what happened to William?


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That's the mystery. Because if LE had seen someone loading something into that SUV on the video, well I think there might have been movement in the case. Where indeed is WC ??? And why did the SUV show up for 5 minutes in his driveway ?

 

[LisaWL7TR]

Maybe Gig Tu means downstairs, kind of like the Scanner Threads, where scanner threads are only for those who log in on WS...private, not for general public consumption?

IMOO.

Got it. Thanks Treelights!!!

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[LisaWL7TR]

So if a perp scaled the fence what happened to William?


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PM of me scaling the fences. Lol

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[LisaWL7TR]

That's the mystery. Because if LE had seen someone loading something into that SUV on the video, well I think there might have been movement in the case. Where indeed is WC ??? And why did the SUV show up for 5 minutes in his driveway ?

That is the big mystery! I'm trying to think differently...like why would that SUV back into the driveway?
I back into my mine...easy to unload groceries, etc and leaving is a breeze.

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[TheMadScientist]

Today's 3 hour search: parked at Bridgeport Park, went down boulders to the rivers main channel at the grated stormwater drainage system, went up river in a "Z" pattern between the running water and boulders to what is affectionately known as the Santa Clarita Valley Emergency Now "sippy hole". Turned around, same pattern down river to 200+ yds. below the "GSDS", back to the car....home.

 

[SmartSassyBBW]

That is the big mystery! I'm trying to think differently...like why would that SUV back into the driveway?
I back into my mine...easy to unload groceries, etc and leaving is a breeze.

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Seeing as theirs is the guest house on their street they might back in so that when they leave they have a straight shot getting out. Cars making that corner could make it hard to back out when they leave. I'll check to see what direction the car in the driveway is parked currently. Might be a habit of regular visitors.


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[liz b.]

That is the big mystery! I'm trying to think differently...like why would that SUV back into the driveway?
I back into my mine...easy to unload groceries, etc and leaving is a breeze.

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Also, what was the driver doing that only took 5 minutes ? Wonder if the garage door was open or closed during the time he was there ? Did he or they go inside the garage ?

 

[LisaWL7TR]

Today's 3 hour search: parked at Bridgeport Park, went down boulders to the rivers main channel at the grated stormwater drainage system, went up river in a "Z" pattern between the running water and boulders to what is affectionately known as the Santa Clarita Valley Emergency Now "sippy hole". Turned around, same pattern down river to 200+ yds. below the "GSDS", back to the car....home.

You rock...T.Mad.S.

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[SmartSassyBBW]

That is the big mystery! I'm trying to think differently...like why would that SUV back into the driveway?
I back into my mine...easy to unload groceries, etc and leaving is a breeze.

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Seeing as theirs is the first house on their street they might back in so that when they leave they have a straight shot getting out. Cars making that corner could make it hard to back out when they leave. I'll check to see what direction the car in the driveway is parked currently. Might be a habit of regular visitors.


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[LisaWL7TR]

Also, what was the driver doing that only took 5 minutes ? Wonder if the garage door was open or closed during the time he was there ? Did he or they go inside the garage ?

No one knows...on here...I want to think if LE knew there would be someone to question/arrest? Imho

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[LisaWL7TR]

No one knows...on here...I want to think if LE knew there would be someone to question/arrest? Imho

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I did mention to my husband perhaps a pickup of something sold over Craigslist, etc

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[liz b.]

I did mention to my husband perhaps a pickup of something sold over Craigslist, etc

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Can you elaborate on this ? TIA

 

[lcarlson90]

I did mention to my husband perhaps a pickup of something sold over Craigslist, etc

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I don't think the person would park in a strangers driveway if they were picking up an item sold on Craigslist. I think people generally don't park in someone else's driveway unless they know the person.

 

[GigTu]

I think the video is purposefully cropped so only the person seeing the video, or the person driving the SUV would know more details.

 

[LisaWL7TR]

I don't think the person would park in a strangers driveway if they were picking up an item sold on Craigslist. I think people generally don't park in someone else's driveway unless they know the person.

We do around here. Actually the hoa prefers that to parking in the street. I also don't live near CA so could be different.

...and if I bought something big off Craigslist I would. I bought a huge scrapbooking storage unit that only broke down in 3 parts and one part had to go out the window. So we did park in their driveway.

Anyway, my post was trying to think of other reasons to back in the driveway that didn't involve hauling a body(I hated to text that last part).

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[LisaWL7TR]

I think the video is purposefully cropped so only the person seeing the video, or the person driving the SUV would know more details.

...and I believe there is more detail in that video.

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[LisaWL7TR]

I don't think the person would park in a strangers driveway if they were picking up an item sold on Craigslist. I think people generally don't park in someone else's driveway unless they know the person.

I mention in my earlier reply that it must be different depending on where you live. We had to as it was a big item but here the hoa prefers driveway parking over street.

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[sassyblue]

I would never park in someone else's driveway until asked to pull into it for some reason such as to load a Craigslist item..which I have done....with permission. And I've lived in California and other places since. That car backing into Will's driveway was nefarious no matter how you look at it. Either Will got loaded into that car against his will alive or dead or he put himself into that car on purpose. I'm betting the first option. If it's the second option then shame on him. How could he see his wife and her obvious emotions and fear during that press conference and not let her know he is ok and just wanted out. That would be a hard one to deal with.