CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #1

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  • #621
MOO... there really isn't a reason to back into your driveway unless you are carrying in or placing something large/heavy into your trunk. In this area I don't see many people backing in to their driveway. I'm still confused as to why the neighbor's camera was able to pick up the SUV backing into the driveway but not the person getting out of the vehicle. Maybe the angle was wrong.
 
  • #622
Been away from my computer.
A little confused
Who has asked TMS not to post?

How can someone ask you not to post?
I understand someone asking that no important information is given out on a public forum, but not to post?
 
  • #623
I don't believe I have ever quit in my life. I'm motivated to work harder and longer days so I might not have time to post anyway.....BUT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO CEASE POSTING...sorry, perhaps the ratio of guests to members is the issue, perhaps we're getting really close. In California, it seems the BAD GUYS have all the rights. You people on this site that are invested like me are the smartest people I've met....Keep talking about Will.

You must do what you must
But, I am quite confused
Are you being threatened? Or asked politely?
 
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  • #625
Wow. Nothing at all in the news and now a psychic. That is the writer I emailed asking for his opinion on the case. He did not get back to me. I'm just happy his name is in the news again.


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  • #626
Wonder if WC had a will ? He has no children ?
 
  • #627
Ran over here when I saw WC's thread was 'bumped' up.
But not much news. :(
Almost as if something more is going on than we're ever going to find out.

Still curious about the wife's reaction to that nephew....... Hmmm......
MOO
 
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  • #629
A little information about the Santa Clara River flow in Santa Clarita. Mapping images show the river to be bone dry. With the recent rains, would it have been a brown 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 of water, whisking away anything in its path? There appears to be a lot of trees and brush inside the riverbed, and maybe that would catch and hold some things? On the day William was watching golf with his nephew, what clothes was he described as wearing?

From Wikip[edia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_River_(California)

"The Santa Clara River is 83 miles long, and is one of the most dynamic river systems in southern California. The river drains parts of four ranges in the Transverse Ranges System north and northwest of Los Angeles, then flows west onto the Oxnard Plain and into the Santa Barbara Channel of the Pacific Ocean."

"After the Castaic Creek confluence, the river starts to flow primarily southwest through the Santa Clarita Valley. Near the county line between Los Angeles County and Ventura County, the river enters the Santa Clara River Valley flowing past Buckhorn and Fillmore, incorporating additional flow from Piru Creek and Sespe Creek, both from the right, and Santa Paula Creek at the town of Santa Paula, where it passes the large South Mountain Oil Field on the south bank. The Santa Clara River then bends southwest, passing the Saticoy Oil Field on the north bank where South Mountain marks its entrance onto the broad Oxnard Plain. The river ends at the Pacific Ocean after flowing across the north side of this plain made fertile with the silt deposited by the river. A sand bar usually stands across the mouth at the Santa Clara Estuary Natural Preserve that lies within McGrath State Beach in Oxnard and bounded on the north by the city of Ventura."
 
  • #630
Here is a newer article re a psychic and his predictions where Will may be located.
https://signalscv.com/2017/03/01/lo...-psychic-pal-help-will-cierzan-disappearance/
The article is interesting because it gives clean details, and even names family members. However, this forum does not support psychics and such type of claims are not scientifically proven nor supported so I doubt you should give that part of the article any weight. Seriously, all that is stated is normal things we all see everyday but may not connect, but we can certainly conjure up such images ourselves. Silliness.

The waterways in the area should definitely be checked however, which of course is something that is a given and already in progress.
 
  • #631
A little information about the Santa Clara River flow in Santa Clarita. Mapping images show the river to be bone dry. With the recent rains, would it have been a brown 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 of water, whisking away anything in its path? There appears to be a lot of trees and brush inside the riverbed, and maybe that would catch and hold some things? On the day William was watching golf with his nephew, what clothes was he described as wearing?

From Wikip[edia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_River_(California)

"The Santa Clara River is 83 miles long, and is one of the most dynamic river systems in southern California. The river drains parts of four ranges in the Transverse Ranges System north and northwest of Los Angeles, then flows west onto the Oxnard Plain and into the Santa Barbara Channel of the Pacific Ocean."

"After the Castaic Creek confluence, the river starts to flow primarily southwest through the Santa Clarita Valley. Near the county line between Los Angeles County and Ventura County, the river enters the Santa Clara River Valley flowing past Buckhorn and Fillmore, incorporating additional flow from Piru Creek and Sespe Creek, both from the right, and Santa Paula Creek at the town of Santa Paula, where it passes the large South Mountain Oil Field on the south bank. The Santa Clara River then bends southwest, passing the Saticoy Oil Field on the north bank where South Mountain marks its entrance onto the broad Oxnard Plain. The river ends at the Pacific Ocean after flowing across the north side of this plain made fertile with the silt deposited by the river. A sand bar usually stands across the mouth at the Santa Clara Estuary Natural Preserve that lies within McGrath State Beach in Oxnard and bounded on the north by the city of Ventura."

RBBM : Far as I know his clothing has never been described by anyone ! Had asked this at the start too...
 
  • #632
MOO... there really isn't a reason to back into your driveway unless you are carrying in or placing something large/heavy into your trunk. In this area I don't see many people backing in to their driveway. I'm still confused as to why the neighbor's camera was able to pick up the SUV backing into the driveway but not the person getting out of the vehicle. Maybe the angle was wrong.
That is my thinking also. Unless the video is clipped but LE would know and may be unsure...like someone walking out that had been threatened with a gun? Moo.
I do back in...just easier to unload groceries via the garage.

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  • #633
Driveway parking or not parking. Video clipped or not. Mr. William Cierzan needs to be found. My heart goes out to his wife.
It makes me sad just seeing his truck parked on the street.

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  • #634
RBBM : Far as I know his clothing has never been described by anyone ! Had asked this at the start too...

Well that is curious. If he was hanging out with his nephew, wouldn't nephew be able to say?
 
  • #635
Well that is curious. If he was hanging out with his nephew, wouldn't nephew be able to say?

Yes. But I don't recall WC's nephew making ANY comments publicly about his missing uncle. The clothing he was wearing is important, because a piece of his clothing might be seen by someone, but they wouldn't be able to connect it to WC...
 
  • #636
A little information about the Santa Clara River flow in Santa Clarita. Mapping images show the river to be bone dry. With the recent rains, would it have been a brown 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 of water, whisking away anything in its path? There appears to be a lot of trees and brush inside the riverbed, and maybe that would catch and hold some things? On the day William was watching golf with his nephew, what clothes was he described as wearing?

From Wikip[edia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_River_(California)

"The Santa Clara River is 83 miles long, and is one of the most dynamic river systems in southern California. The river drains parts of four ranges in the Transverse Ranges System north and northwest of Los Angeles, then flows west onto the Oxnard Plain and into the Santa Barbara Channel of the Pacific Ocean."

"After the Castaic Creek confluence, the river starts to flow primarily southwest through the Santa Clarita Valley. Near the county line between Los Angeles County and Ventura County, the river enters the Santa Clara River Valley flowing past Buckhorn and Fillmore, incorporating additional flow from Piru Creek and Sespe Creek, both from the right, and Santa Paula Creek at the town of Santa Paula, where it passes the large South Mountain Oil Field on the south bank. The Santa Clara River then bends southwest, passing the Saticoy Oil Field on the north bank where South Mountain marks its entrance onto the broad Oxnard Plain. The river ends at the Pacific Ocean after flowing across the north side of this plain made fertile with the silt deposited by the river. A sand bar usually stands across the mouth at the Santa Clara Estuary Natural Preserve that lies within McGrath State Beach in Oxnard and bounded on the north by the city of Ventura."

In the last month some areas of the riverbed have had large amounts of water where it's normally dry. One area had so much water it was really more like a fast moving river. If his body was upstream from that area it could have moved pretty far by now. There are a lot of other areas of the riverbed that have had water in them but not enough to move a body. The dry river bed areas make up a lot of area in our city.
 
  • #637
I drove by today to check out the positioning of the car parked in the driveway. There were 2 when I went by and one was backed in. My supposition is that because of the house's proximity to the corner and hence the inability to see a car coming around the corner swiftly I believe it may be a family habit to back into the driveway. If this is the case , other friends and family members might do the same thing. It would make leaving the driveway safer and easier than backing out into traffic would.


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  • #638
RBBM : Far as I know his clothing has never been described by anyone ! Had asked this at the start too...
Dang, just thinking my husband just left for work. I can tell you what he was wearing this a.m. because it is Friday, so RED shirt. Any other day this week...I wouldn't be able to say much more than dress pants, dress shirt.

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  • #639
I drove by today to check out the positioning of the car parked in the driveway. There were 2 when I went by and one was backed in. My supposition is that because of the house's proximity to the corner and hence the inability to see a car coming around the corner swiftly I believe it may be a family habit to back into the driveway. If this is the case , other friends and family members might do the same thing. It would make leaving the driveway safer and easier than backing out into traffic would.


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So backing in to that driveway could be a normal thing. sigh.

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  • #640
Just checking in to see if there was anything new reported.
Still happy that searching is going on.
Need to bring Will home
 
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