CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #2

[SmartSassyBBW]

I am new to this site so not sure if I am replying correctly to your post. I am local and very familiar with this area. If I was going in the same direction off this street as the SUV and turned left to head towards Bouquet, I would never attempt to turn left on Bouquet. It is too difficult to cross traffic.
I would either turn right on Bouquet or turn right off cuatro milpas and drive 2 minutes through the neighborhood to get to a stop light (either Seco Cyn or Decoro).
Hopefully that makes sense.

ETA: I might try to turn left at 11pm at night but never ever during a peak traffic hour around 5pm.

I agree. Very few people would attempt a left hand turn into Bouquet Cyn Rd from our Festividad out of our tract. It's dangerous and takes forever.

 

[cool12]

I had read that the bloodstains were found in the kitchen. IF true, wonder if the kitchen is towards the back of the house, and is there access to the kitchen from a side door, or sliders ? Makes me wonder if someone(s) came into the house that way, and hurt WC there. jmo

lots of homes have garage access near the kitchen.
what i'm still dying to know is whether the garage door was open or closed when the SUV backs in and/or did it open at that time if it was closed.
also, did the surveillance camera record the SUV come and go earlier? i've seen that asked by others too but can't seem to find an answer anywhere. the footage they chose to release creates even more questions!

 

[Dushi]

Has it ever been stated what led the searchers to the areas that they have searched?
Lots of posts to read this morning

Welcome hippylove

 

[GigTu]

Ughh...just checking in and marking my spot. I was hoping for more of an update or some searching going on this weekend. This is driving me crazy !!! One minute I am thinking of one scenario, then next minute, Im onto another. UGHHH:gaah:

Past posts indicate that there is still searching, but it is no longer being reported here.

 

[Dushi]

Someone must have given a statement about the SUV being there at 5:06, because LE know (AFAIAC) who owns it.
Even if the owner wasn't driving, he would have to have a solid alibi. And if he wasn't driving it, he should know who was
I simply do not believe that LE doesn't know who owns the white SUV

 

[GigTu]

Someone must have given a statement about the SUV being there at 5:06, because LE know (AFAIAC) who owns it.
Even if the owner wasn't driving, he would have to have a solid alibi. And if he wasn't driving it, he should know who was
I simply do not believe that LE doesn't know who owns the white SUV

I personally don't think the problem is in knowing or not knowing who the owner is. I also don't think there is any doubt who was driving. The question for me is, where did the SUV go next, after departing the WC residence at 5:12 pm on Thursday, 1/26 and when/where was it next seen?

 

[liz b.]

lots of homes have garage access near the kitchen.
what i'm still dying to know is whether the garage door was open or closed when the SUV backs in and/or did it open at that time if it was closed.
also, did the surveillance camera record the SUV come and go earlier? i've seen that asked by others too but can't seem to find an answer anywhere. the footage they chose to release creates even more questions!

A relative, I think WC's sister, said that WC "never left the house", I think she meant he is not seen on video leaving the house. She also said that "no friends came to the house", but she never said that no family members were seen coming to the house. She said " no one came to the front door ", but she never said that no one went around the side of the house, or went in through the garage. She said things without saying things. jmo

 

[GigTu]

A relative, I think WC's sister, said that WC "never left the house", I think she meant he is not seen on video leaving the house. She also said that "no friends came to the house", but she never said that no family members were seen coming to the house. She said " no one came to the front door ", but she never said that no one went around the side of the house, or went in through the garage. She said things without saying things. jmo

Exactly.

 

[Dushi]

I personally don't think the problem is in knowing or not knowing who the owner is. I also don't think there is any doubt who was driving. The question for me is, where did the SUV go next, after departing the WC residence at 5:12 pm on Thursday, 1/26 and when/where was it next seen?

And I am guessing that could be anywhere!
At that time of day, there would be some traffic. Unless acting unusual, would anyone notice?
I expect the driver was asked about his day/evening and has given some kind of statement that has passed the first smell test

 

[liz b.]

I personally don't think the problem is in knowing or not knowing who the owner is. I also don't think there is any doubt who was driving. The question for me is, where did the SUV go next, after departing the WC residence at 5:12 pm on Thursday, 1/26 and when/where was it next seen?

LE did say they had examined the videos, plural, so I think the know more about the SUV's route. But, maybe that information is not leading anywhere ? jmo

 

[Dushi]

I have many questions

Was the blood Wills?
How much blood?
Is there more video we haven't seen?
Does that video show a visitor that was there earlier?
Did Will's nephew say how he arrived at the house that day?
Is it common for some people to come to the house through the back?
Was the SUV confiscated?
If so, Has it been released?
Was there something going on in Will's life?
Has anyone been behaving in an unusual manner?
Does Linda have a full supportive family?
Are some people avoiding her?
Were dogs used and if not, why not?
Why no official LE searches?
Why no updates?

 

[LietKynes]

I have many questions

Was the blood Wills?
How much blood?
Is there more video we haven't seen?
Does that video show a visitor that was there earlier?
Did Will's nephew say how he arrived at the house that day?
Is it common for some people to come to the house through the back?
Was the SUV confiscated?
If so, Has it been released?
Was there something going on in Will's life?
Has anyone been behaving in an unusual manner?
Does Linda have a full supportive family?
Are some people avoiding her?
Were dogs used and if not, why not?
Why no official LE searches?
Why no updates?

SABBM

Good observations !

I'm especially interested in the part I bolded.
Sometimes things happen or get out of control --- but maybe some people know or suspect something-- and then cannot look a family member or friend in the eye ??
MOO

 

[nonanks]

This whole case is so odd. I think most of us agree Will did not up and leave voluntarily. I believe one specific person is behind all this, just baffles me that there is no other info out there on this case. No missing page set up ..nothing No update from LE either.

 

[Razz]

A relative, I think WC's sister, said that WC "never left the house", I think she meant he is not seen on video leaving the house. She also said that "no friends came to the house", but she never said that no family members were seen coming to the house. She said " no one came to the front door ", but she never said that no one went around the side of the house, or went in through the garage. She said things without saying things. jmo

But could she have been that rehearsed or cunning? Who is she ultimately going to support? The brother who is missing or the brother who's son looks to be part of this?

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[Razz]

I have many questions

Was the blood Wills?
How much blood?
Is there more video we haven't seen?
Does that video show a visitor that was there earlier?
Did Will's nephew say how he arrived at the house that day?
Is it common for some people to come to the house through the back?
Was the SUV confiscated?
If so, Has it been released?
Was there something going on in Will's life?
Has anyone been behaving in an unusual manner?
Does Linda have a full supportive family?
Are some people avoiding her?
Were dogs used and if not, why not?
Why no official LE searches?
Why no updates?

I believe she has a sister in law (not on Will's side) who spoke for her at the pc.

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[SmartSassyBBW]

I believe she has a sister in law (not on Will's side) who spoke for her at the pc.

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Wasn't that Andrea Peck? Isn't she Wills sister? Not the mother of the questionable nephew.
I joined and posted in the NextDoor app for our neighborhood and only one person responded that they had heard about his disappearance. There are no posters around town or on the street lamps at the tract entrance where people could see them. My neighbors don't didn't know until I told them. Someone posted on NextDoor in response to my post that they asked a retired cop up here if he had heard and he hadn't. He told them it happens all the time and most are never found. I don't believe that. I think most are drug/alcohol or mental problems. No one has ever said that Will fit into those categories. I have to hope that LE knows who did this. Mad Scientists cryptic post about being told not to post about the searches he is involved with makes me think they are onto something and don't want to tip off the suspect. I'm still troubled by the nephew's unsettling FB page I found in the first few days. Unsavory looking friendships to say the least.



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[Dushi]

Wasn't that Andrea Peck? Isn't she Wills sister? Not the mother of the questionable nephew.
I joined and posted in the NextDoor app for our neighborhood and only one person responded that they had heard about his disappearance. There are no posters around town or on the street lamps at the tract entrance where people could see them. My neighbors don't didn't know until I told them. Someone posted on NextDoor in response to my post that they asked a retired cop up here if he had heard and he hadn't. He told them it happens all the time and most are never found. I don't believe that. I think most are drug/alcohol or mental problems. No one has ever said that Will fit into those categories. I have to hope that LE knows who did this. Mad Scientists cryptic post about being told not to post about the searches he is involved with makes me think they are onto something and don't want to tip off the suspect. I'm still troubled by the nephew's unsettling FB page I found in the first few days. Unsavory looking friendships to say the least.



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Great post, thank you
Its a shame that people so close are not aware.

And yes, you are correct, AP is Will's sister, not nephews Mother

 

[GigTu]

Wasn't that Andrea Peck? Isn't she Wills sister? Not the mother of the questionable nephew.
I joined and posted in the NextDoor app for our neighborhood and only one person responded that they had heard about his disappearance. There are no posters around town or on the street lamps at the tract entrance where people could see them. My neighbors don't didn't know until I told them. Someone posted on NextDoor in response to my post that they asked a retired cop up here if he had heard and he hadn't. He told them it happens all the time and most are never found. I don't believe that. I think most are drug/alcohol or mental problems. No one has ever said that Will fit into those categories. I have to hope that LE knows who did this. Mad Scientists cryptic post about being told not to post about the searches he is involved with makes me think they are onto something and don't want to tip off the suspect. I'm still troubled by the nephew's unsettling FB page I found in the first few days. Unsavory looking friendships to say the least.

A retired cop said that "it happens all the time and most are never found" all casual-like, like that? WOW! Way to discourage locals from trying to find someone, buddy.

WHY haven't there been any posters of WC, the SUV, and shout outs for video from EVERY home in that subdivision that has it? Why is LE so quiet? Is it because they know WC is not with us and they are doing undercover stuff, or is it because they are like the retired cop above and not doing anything at all?

Do you feel safe going to 6 Flags now, knowing they let all types of potentially violent people work there and don't follow up when one of their own goes missing? How do we know this isn't 6-Flags related?

 

[Dushi]

A retired cop said that "it happens all the time and most are never found" all casual-like, like that? WOW! Way to discourage locals from trying to find someone, buddy.

WHY haven't there been any posters of WC, the SUV, and shout outs for video from EVERY home in that subdivision that has it? Why is LE so quiet? Is it because they know WC is not with us and they are doing undercover stuff, or is it because they are like the retired cop above and not doing anything at all?

Do you feel safe going to 6 Flags now, knowing they let all types of potentially violent people work there and don't follow up when one of their own goes missing? How do we know this isn't 6-Flags related?

I seriously don't know but it sure feels like LE is doing very little and has from the beginning.
Now, maybe a lot is being done behind the scenes , but that does not explain the fact that there are no posters, no information being distributed to help find and bring this man home.
I feel as if they feel there s no crime here
And if this has led LE to something bigger, still no excuse not to be looking for this man

 

[Razz]

Great post, thank you
Its a shame that people so close are not aware.

And yes, you are correct, AP is Will's sister, not nephews Mother

See PC. There were three women there: 1) Andrea Peck, oldest sister to Will 2) Linda Cierzan, wife of William and 3). Rosemary Flores who read briefly from the paper Linda was holding when she broke down. Rosemary said Will was her brother in law. So....is she Linda's sister or the wife of one of Will's brother?!

https://youtu.be/PIiVZUfON9k

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