CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #2

[Dushi]

See PC. There were three women there: 1) Andrea Peck, oldest sister to Will 2) Linda Cierzan, wife of William and 3). Rosemary Flores who read briefly from the paper Linda was holding when she broke down. Rosemary said Will was her brother in law. So....is she Linda's sister or the wife of one of Will's brother?!

https://youtu.be/PIiVZUfON9k

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Yes I agree, Andrea Peck is Will's sister, the eldest of six children
I was under the impression that the other woman was Linda's sister
None of them are nephews Mother.
This was all cleared up a few pages back

 

[Razz]

Yes I agree, Andrea Peck is Will's sister, the eldest of six children
I was under the impression that the other woman was Linda's sister
None of them are nephews Mother.
This was all cleared up a few pages back

Yes, I know that! I was responding to your question about does Linda have close family nearby. I said the woman who read for her who we/I now know is Rosemary Flores!!

She must be a sister of Linda's who is therefore a family support (other than Will's family) to her. Which is a good thing she's not connected to the family of Will and other sibs.

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[debbiegarcia36]

Rosemary Flores is Linda's sister. Flores is Linda's maiden name.

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[Deleted member 50844]

Where are you Will?

 

[LisaWL7TR]

A relative, I think WC's sister, said that WC "never left the house", I think she meant he is not seen on video leaving the house. She also said that "no friends came to the house", but she never said that no family members were seen coming to the house. She said " no one came to the front door ", but she never said that no one went around the side of the house, or went in through the garage. She said things without saying things. jmo

Exactly! On the no family members!!

 

[LisaWL7TR]

And I am guessing that could be anywhere!
At that time of day, there would be some traffic. Unless acting unusual, would anyone notice?
I expect the driver was asked about his day/evening and has given some kind of statement that has passed the first smell test

...did the SUV return home that evening?

 

[LisaWL7TR]

Wasn't that Andrea Peck? Isn't she Wills sister? Not the mother of the questionable nephew.
I joined and posted in the NextDoor app for our neighborhood and only one person responded that they had heard about his disappearance. There are no posters around town or on the street lamps at the tract entrance where people could see them. My neighbors don't didn't know until I told them. Someone posted on NextDoor in response to my post that they asked a retired cop up here if he had heard and he hadn't. He told them it happens all the time and most are never found. I don't believe that. I think most are drug/alcohol or mental problems. No one has ever said that Will fit into those categories. I have to hope that LE knows who did this. Mad Scientists cryptic post about being told not to post about the searches he is involved with makes me think they are onto something and don't want to tip off the suspect. I'm still troubled by the nephew's unsettling FB page I found in the first few days. Unsavory looking friendships to say the least.



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Agree

 

[liz b.]

I read that LE "searched every inch of the house" on that Thursday that WC went missing. So they did this right away ? Wonder if WC's wife called around the relatives houses, and friends' houses ? Did she talk to the nephew that night ?

Even though LE searched so thoroughly that night, they didn't notice the bloodstains ? That came later, I think ? I think WC left the house via the side pathway. Maybe with the nephew, or maybe someone else . Alive. Very difficult to remove a body in the area of the house entrance. And it would have still been light. I tend to think they both left together, going who knows where. WC was likely hurt after they left the house. jmo

 

[Dushi]

“Deputies conducted a search at the house Thursday and found what appears to be blood stains,” Det. Ralph Hernandez said Wednesday at the press conference held at the Los Angeles County Sheriff Department’s Homicide Bureau in Monterey Park.

https://signalscv.com/2017/02/01/blood-found-home-missing-man/

Will disappeared Wed, Jan 26th
The above was printed Feb 1, so they must have found the blood on the Thursday Jan 27

I have gone back and forth about whether Will was alive when he left the house, as in walked out.
I wish we knew if the garage door opened that day.
I think he could have been taken out that way when the truck pulled in.
If not, then I can't imagine taking such a risk as carrying him outside of the house down a path , so I go back to walking out

 

[liz b.]

“Deputies conducted a search at the house Thursday and found what appears to be blood stains,” Det. Ralph Hernandez said Wednesday at the press conference held at the Los Angeles County Sheriff Department’s Homicide Bureau in Monterey Park.

https://signalscv.com/2017/02/01/blood-found-home-missing-man/

Will disappeared Wed, Jan 26th
The above was printed Feb 1, so they must have found the blood on the Thursday Jan 27

I have gone back and forth about whether Will was alive when he left the house, as in walked out.
I wish we knew if the garage door opened that day.
I think he could have been taken out that way when the truck pulled in.
If not, then I can't imagine taking such a risk as carrying him outside of the house down a path , so I go back to walking out

Huh, I had not seen that, about LE finding blood stains right away, I had read hat it was at a later time ?. I was a bit surprised that LE searched the house that very night. At that time, couldn't WC have just decided to go out for a few hours before his wife came home ? I mean, for all anyone knew he could have been next door at the neighbor's house having a beer or something ? He's an adult ?
Also, I wonder if the house was locked up when WC's wife came home ? And were any interior lights on in the house when she came home ? Is it known what time WC's wife would normally return home ?

 

[Razz]

“Deputies conducted a search at the house Thursday and found what appears to be blood stains,” Det. Ralph Hernandez said Wednesday at the press conference held at the Los Angeles County Sheriff Department’s Homicide Bureau in Monterey Park.

https://signalscv.com/2017/02/01/blood-found-home-missing-man/

Will disappeared Wed, Jan 26th
The above was printed Feb 1, so they must have found the blood on the Thursday Jan 27

I have gone back and forth about whether Will was alive when he left the house, as in walked out.
I wish we knew if the garage door opened that day.
I think he could have been taken out that way when the truck pulled in.
If not, then I can't imagine taking such a risk as carrying him outside of the house down a path , so I go back to walking out

I think if he walked out alive, then he's still alive....somewhere.

I mean, why would you have him walk out only to hurt him later? Doesn't make sense. That is some serious premeditation.

Linda's sister, Rosemary....does she live nearby? I wondered if maybe she lived with Linda and Will. Would explain the extra car.

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[Dushi]

Huh, I had not seen that, about LE finding blood stains right away, I had read hat it was at a later time ?. I was a bit surprised that LE searched the house that very night. At that time, couldn't WC have just decided to go out for a few hours before his wife came home ? I mean, for all anyone knew he could have been next door at the neighbor's house having a beer or something ? He's an adult ?
Also, I wonder if the house was locked up when WC's wife came home ? And were any interior lights on in the house when she came home ? Is it known what time WC's wife would normally return home ?

I sure wish we had answers to all of your questions.
The only thing I can think of is they saw blood when they were there to file the report? Do police usually come to the residence to take a MP report?
Could Linda have seen the blood?
Because you are right, he was an adult and only a few hours had passed. All sounds unusual

 

[Dushi]

“Deputies conducted a search at the house Thursday and found what appears to be blood stains,” Det. Ralph Hernandez said Wednesday at the press conference held at the Los Angeles County Sheriff Department’s Homicide Bureau in Monterey Park.

https://signalscv.com/2017/02/01/blood-found-home-missing-man/

Will disappeared Wed, Jan 26th
The above was printed Feb 1, so they must have found the blood on the Thursday Jan 27

I have gone back and forth about whether Will was alive when he left the house, as in walked out.
I wish we knew if the garage door opened that day.
I think he could have been taken out that way when the truck pulled in.
If not, then I can't imagine taking such a risk as carrying him outside of the house down a path , so I go back to walking out

CORRECTION

Thursday was Jan 26, not 27th
They found blood the same evening Will disappeared

 

[liz b.]

I think if he walked out alive, then he's still alive....somewhere.

I mean, why would you have him walk out only to hurt him later? Doesn't make sense. That is some serious premeditation.

Linda's sister, Rosemary....does she live nearby? I wondered if maybe she lived with Linda and Will. Would explain the extra car.

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Perhaps WC could have decided to go someplace with the nephew ? Or perhaps someone else came to the house via the side path, and he decided to leave with them ? And things went sideways after that ? jmo

 

[Dushi]

I think if he walked out alive, then he's still alive....somewhere.

I mean, why would you have him walk out only to hurt him later? Doesn't make sense. That is some serious premeditation.

Linda's sister, Rosemary....does she live nearby? I wondered if maybe she lived with Linda and Will. Would explain the extra car.

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I personally think this was a situation that happened, unplanned, and escalated
He left all his ID and credit cards etc at home so it wasn't about withdrawing money IMO
And if there was blood, its likely someone left that house injured, at least

 

[liz b.]

I sure wish we had answers to all of your questions.
The only thing I can think of is they saw blood when they were there to file the report? Do police usually come to the residence to take a MP report?
Could Linda have seen the blood?
Because you are right, he was an adult and only a few hours had passed. All sounds unusual

AFAIK, most LE don't come to the house right away following a missing person's call. In fact, a lot of families can't get much interest at all from LE when an adult goes missing. Unless the adult is vulnerable in some way ? jmo

 

[Razz]

Perhaps WC could have decided to go someplace with the nephew ? Or perhaps someone else came to the house via the side path, and he decided to leave with them ? And things went sideways after that ? jmo

Why would he leave knowing Linda was going to be late? At the time, he knew she was going to be late but not 3 hours late! (That still bugs me).

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[liz b.]

I personally think this was a situation that happened, unplanned, and escalated
He left all his ID and credit cards etc at home so it wasn't about withdrawing money IMO
And if there was blood, its likely someone left that house injured, at least

Jumping in on your post : if it was bloodstains that were found, that could mean blood from an earlier time ?

 

[liz b.]

Why would he leave knowing Linda was going to be late? At the time, he knew she was going to be late but not 3 hours late! (That still bugs me).

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I meant that he could have just decided to go out for a few hours ? He had been in the house all day ?

 

[Razz]

Perhaps WC could have decided to go someplace with the nephew ? Or perhaps someone else came to the house via the side path, and he decided to leave with them ? And things went sideways after that ? jmo

I think he would have grabbed his money and keys if he voluntarily went some where with the neph.

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