CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #2

[Dushi]

Maybe it is more than just the blood.
They said some crime lab examinations

Hoping

 

[Steph9676]

I just saw Will's story on the news again this morning. They have ran it a few times since last night. I'm glad his case is getting out there and I'm praying that the reward brings in a new tips.

 

[xmsmadex]

I just saw Will's story on the news again this morning. They have ran it a few times since last night. I'm glad his case is getting out there and I'm praying that the reward brings in a new tips.

Thats so good to hear!

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[neesaki]

Someone disappeared him.

Are there any ideas regarding motive?

 

[Dushi]

Are there any ideas regarding motive?

There is nothing official.
We have talked about drugs, money.

 

[LietKynes]

The fact that Will's last conversation with his wife seemed normal makes me think WC wasn't expecting anything to happen to him that day.
Just an ordinary afternoon.

Getting a picture in my head of someone taking him by surprise and either something happened right there in his house---- or he was threatened and dragged away.

All out of view of any sec. cams.

If this is even close to what happened..... wonder if the perp(s) knew what direction the cameras faced ?

And if it was neighbors' cams-- how would one know what parts of another person's house the cams would be facing at ??

As if WC's 'disappearance' (i.e. possible kidnapping and/or death) was premeditated on the part of the perp ?

I'm still leaning toward WC having maybe 'seen' something and needed to be 'silenced'.
Just thinking out loud.

 

[xmsmadex]

The fact that Will's last conversation with his wife seemed normal makes me think WC wasn't expecting anything to happen to him that day.
Just an ordinary afternoon.

Getting a picture in my head of someone taking him by surprise and either something happened right there in his house---- or he was threatened and dragged away.

All out of view of any sec. cams.

If this is even close to what happened..... wonder if the perp(s) knew what direction the cameras faced ?

And if it was neighbors' cams-- how would one know what parts of another person's house the cams would be facing at ??

As if WC's 'disappearance' (i.e. possible kidnapping and/or death) was premeditated on the part of the perp ?

I'm still leaning toward WC having maybe 'seen' something and needed to be 'silenced'.
Just thinking out loud.

Very good points!

I dont believe the perp knew there were any cameras at all. Just got lucky.

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[Dushi]

If he knew about the cameras, he obviously didn't care when he came at 5:06 JMO

 

[debbiegarcia36]

Why does DNA testing take so long?
http://intrensic.blogspot.com/2009/06/why-does-dna-testing-take-so-long.html?m=1

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[cool12]

there's some local talk on recent articles about the searches. sounds familiar. . .

 

[Steph9676]

Not to discredit other missing persons cases or local enforcement but how come on another case I'm following FBI is involved so soon and not on others? Is their a criteria to qualify? What makes others more important? I really hope Will's case gets solved soon. I have been on websluthes for a few years and it's sad to see some cases get a ton of support and others seem to go cold. 😭😭😭

 

[Steph9676]

there's some local talk on recent articles about the searches. sounds familiar. . .

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what your referring to.

 

[xmsmadex]

Not to discredit other missing persons cases or local enforcement but how come on another case I'm following FBI is involved so soon and not on others? Is their a criteria to qualify? What makes others more important? I really hope Will's case gets solved soon. I have been on websluthes for a few years and it's sad to see some cases get a ton of support and others seem to go cold. 😭😭😭

I wonder this too, I dont get it. Every single person should be treated the same. Maybe because hus case has so little info there isnt much thdy can do? I really dont know. But every case is treated so differently by LE I dont get what makes certain ones more important than others.

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[Crazyjster]

Not to discredit other missing persons cases or local enforcement but how come on another case I'm following FBI is involved so soon and not on others? Is their a criteria to qualify? What makes others more important? I really hope Will's case gets solved soon. I have been on websluthes for a few years and it's sad to see some cases get a ton of support and others seem to go cold. 😭😭😭

FBI usually gets involved in cases where LE needs assistance (additional resources, behavior analysis), questions of state or federal jurisdiction where a crime was committed, or if the crime was a federal offense

I know which case you are referring to and I have not checked in on it in a couple of days, but last I saw the FBI was said to have been called in by one reporter and another reporter that they were not called in..

So if they were in fact called in, there is most likely evidence recovered that LE needs their assistance with to solve the case (and it is not normal crime scene stuff...)...I am being very cague


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[cool12]

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what your referring to.

just that i've read comments where locals suspect the same person many of us do here.
i really believe LE will eventually make an arrest.

 

[neesaki]

I've really behind on this mysterious case and still trying to get caught up to speed. Just a couple of questions in case someone might answer them.

Who is the neighbor that had the surveillance cameras? And is it possible they were purposely watching WC's house?

I read somewhere on the first thread where there was a question as to whether WC could have disappeared the previous night, but I was under the assumption that his wife saw him that morning before she left for work. Is this not the case?

Is it known the age of the nephew, where he lives, and how he got to WC's house? TIA

Sorry for all the questions, I'm going back to continue reading and try to catch up.

ETA: I just now read about the video showing a vehicle backing up to the garage door.

 

[xmsmadex]

I've really behind on this mysterious case and still trying to get caught up to speed. Just a couple of questions in case someone might answer them.

Who is the neighbor that had the surveillance cameras? And is it possible they were purposely watching WC's house?

I read somewhere on the first thread where there was a question as to whether WC could have disappeared the previous night, but I was under the assumption that his wife saw him that morning before she left for work. Is this not the case?

Is it known the age of the nephew, where he lives, and how he got to WC's house? TIA

Sorry for all the questions, I'm going back to continue reading and try to catch up.

Hey welcome!

I dont think we know specifically who the neighbor is, correct me if Im wrong, and we believe the camera is actually pointed that way to capture anyone walking to the neighbors front yard, we're just lucky it haplened to be pointed in the direction of WCs house.

I do believe she saw him that morning but I font believe thats ever been stated. Dinner was found on the stove, though, the day he went missing. WC and wife, linda, discussed him making dinner that day.

We do know the nephews age, but not sure I can post because it has nit been stated in the news, I believe I can say imo early 20's. Considering the suv seen in the footage, was id'd by the neighbor as familiar to him and the det. said it resembles the nephews car I believe he drove there in the suv.

Dint be sorry, the more we have helping and thinking of Will the better. This case needs solving!


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[neesaki]

Hey welcome!

I dont think we know specifically who the neighbor is, correct me if Im wrong, and we believe the camera is actually pointed that way to capture anyone walking to the neighbors front yard, we're just lucky it haplened to be pointed in the direction of WCs house.

I do believe she saw him that morning but I font believe thats ever been stated. Dinner was found on the stove, though, the day he went missing. WC and wife, linda, discussed him making dinner that day.

We do know the nephews age, but not sure I can post because it has nit been stated in the news, I believe I can say imo early 20's. Considering the suv seen in the footage, was id'd by the neighbor as familiar to him and the det. said it resembles the nephews car I believe he drove there in the suv.

Dint be sorry, the more we have helping and thinking of Will the better. This case needs solving!


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Thanks so much for filling me in, xmsmadex! I just can't imagine why anyone would harm this sweet man. Ok, back to reading.

 

[neesaki]

So, since WC didn't mention to his wife that the nephew was there watching golf with him, I think I'll assume he wasn't there watching golf with him. More like, perhaps the nephew snuck into the house with the idea of stealing something, whether money or items to sell, and gotten caught in the act? Or, he could have just dropped by with the same intentions, to take something while WC wasn't looking.

Another observation, from the FB photo posted here earlier, the nephew looks pretty young to me, does anyone know if he's a minor ? Whatever the case I don't get good vibes. JMO

 

[xmsmadex]

So, since WC didn't mention to his wife that the nephew was there watching golf with him, I think I'll assume he wasn't there watching golf with him. More like, perhaps the nephew snuck into the house with the idea of stealing something, whether money or items to sell, and gotten caught in the act? Or, he could have just dropped by with the same intentions, to take something while WC wasn't looking.

Another observation, from the FB photo posted here earlier, the nephew looks pretty young to me, does anyone know if he's a minor ? Whatever the case I don't get good vibes. JMO

Agreed, I dont think he had been there either at least not until he showed up around 5. To me, your nephew being over, is something you would mention to your wife. If you watch the PC or read my timeline, Linda's responses and body language say it all.

The photos on fb are old, hes early 20s now, not a minor.

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