GUILTY CA - Zoelina, 23, & Jashon Williams, 17 mos, Oakland, Nov 2009

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A child's body was recovered from San Francisco Bay waters south of the Berkeley Marina late Sunday morning near where investigators spent Saturday searching for a missing 17-month-old son of a murder victim, a police lieutenant said.

Several people in kayaks spotted the body floating in the waters just before 11 a.m. and called 911, Berkeley police Lt. Andrew Greenwood said.

"It looked like a baby," one said. "But it looked like it had been in the water for a long, long time."

If not Jashon, someone else has a missing infant/toddler.... :cry:

http://cbs5.com/crime/aquatic.park.body.2.1313930.htm
 
  • #23
I am in a really bad place today where kids are concerned. Fed up and disgusted is what I am about what happens to children.

Same here. Thoroughly disgusted.
 
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Hasanni Cambell came to mind. He would look like he's been there for awhile.
 
  • #26
Well no matter which way you look at it here seems a sad outcome,How do you hope it is not one child and know it is still another? Praying for us all.
 
  • #27
Well no matter which way you look at it here seems a sad outcome,How do you hope it is not one child and know it is still another? Praying for us all.

Very well said. It's heartbreaking.
 
  • #28
went looking for an update on little Jashon & found this from yesterday:

<snip>

Family members say Zoelina never talked about her relationship with Martin. They do not believe the 23-year-old mother had any idea that in the mid-90s, Martin served six years in prison for beating his then-girlfriend's 3-year-old son to death.

"I think it's just a tragic situation, to where she was just dealing with the wrong guy, and he preyed on her 'cause she was a sweet person," said Toney. "She didn't think he would do anything to her."

Relatives say they have not actually seen Jashon since around Halloween. Many of them believe he may have been staying with Curtis Martin since then. Martin is due to be arraigned in Alameda County on Tuesday.


more here: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=7119973

and here's some more news from today:

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Malcolm Lewis, Williams' uncle, said a sister of Martin's had been watching the toddler since the night of Oct. 31. Oakland police believe Jashon was with his mother when she was killed, officer Jeff Thomason said.

Much of Williams' family lives in West Oakland and said they recognized Martin as a neighbor, but had no idea the two were in a relationship.

"She would know not to bring a guy like that around, because we're strict like that," said Brandan Dixon, a cousin to Williams who said she was like a sister to him.

....

Sakinah Toney, also a member of the family,

said she thought Williams was trying to become more mature for her baby.

"Zoelina was trying to be an adult and prove herself and handle all her business," she said.

"He got her where she was staying at home and never seeing her family. He was isolating her. It's a scary pattern you see in abusive men."

"I'm trying to come up with a way to prevent this from happening again, but there's no formula for this," she added. "The bottom line is you make a choice: I want to live this way, or I want to live that way."



more here: http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_13796883
 
  • #29
I don't understand how CM was set free after beating a 3 year old to death? I'm not going to get into a rant here, but dammit, it's too frustrating. Now he allegedly murdered Zoelina and possibly Jashon (I say "allegedly" because he hasn't been tried and "possibly" because so far Jashon has not been identified).

Praying that there will be justice served in this case.
 
  • #30
Sometimes i wonder if predators look for children via xbox live or PS2 live online.
I used to play Socom online via PS2 and ethernet and there was a guy on there who was asking a young girl questions and me and a couple other guys jumped on him about being a perv and threatening to report him so he backed off her.
If you have the headset you can hear everyone talking.
As long as the kids don't give out any personal info, they are safe!

O/T That happens EVERYWHERE. I remember being harassed sexually by "fake" young men and old men online, offline, anywhere there were men. And when I was younger I gave in because it was fun to be engaged in being beautiful. But as an adult I understand the severity of it all. It's sick and it's easy for a man to get a young woman's identity including an idea of where they go to school, what they do, where they spend most of their time, etc. I think myspace and facebook are huge contributors to helping perps find out info like this. Facebook even offers a place for people to add their phone numbers. It doesn't take a genious to use simple information about someone to find out lots of information about someone. And young women can be very vulnerable.

MOO.. plus this isn't just men hunting girls but also women hunt boys, men hunt biys, etc...
 
  • #31
Life is just not fair. Heartbreaking and senseless.
Thoughts of comfort to beloved family and friends.
 
  • #32
A child's body found near the Berkeley Marina, Sunday morning may be Jashon Williams, the missing 17-month-old. Police declined to publicly speculate on the body's identity, until a coroner's investigation is finished. Several members of Jashon's family rushed to the scene when they heard of the discovery and said they were sure it was him.

Representing the family to a group of news reporters, Karim Toney sister, of Zoelina Williams, said police had not confirmed much about the body, "but we all know it's Jashon." "We just wanted the baby back."


Jashon Williams, the missing 17-month-old toddler of an Oakland woman found dead at Aquatic Park had not been in the care of his mother for nearly two weeks, relatives said Saturday.


Malcolm Lewis, Zoelina Williams' uncle, said a sister of Martin's had been watching the toddler since the night of Oct. 31.




I asked her when the last time (was) she'd seen her baby, and I said, 'When are you getting him back?" Samantha Ratcliff, a lifelong friend, said they last spoke Nov. 8.

"From what I understand, (Williams) said, 'I'm going to call the police on you if you don't give me the baby,' and he said they were going to get the baby,'' said Odessa Tucker, the victim's cousin.


Williams apparently asked Martin for a ride to Vallejo early Friday -- possibly to get the child -- but something happened on the way, relatives and authorities said.

Oakland police Officer Jeff Thomason could not confirm the relative's story that Jashon has been gone since Oct. 31. But the police are saying; "It is believed that (the child) was with his mother during the time she was murdered," Oakland police said in a statement.

Curtis Martin, 38, of Oakland was arrested about 1 p.m. Friday as a suspect in Zoelina Williams' slaying. Police said Martin is not talking about the slaying or the missing child


Martin has a criminal record
dating back to the early 1990s. In 1994, he was arrested in the beating death of 3-year-old Devin Brewer of Oakland, the son of his girlfriend at the time. He served six years in prison for the crime.

He had taken the baby for a haircut, when they returned, the child was bruised and swollen. Martin claimed the boy had fallen at the park. The child died at an Oakland hospital the next day.
He originally was charged with murder but was allowed to plead no contest to voluntary manslaughter in exchange for 11 years in prison, authorities said Friday. He was out of prison by 2000 because he was given credit for time served.

In 2008
he was arrested for violating a court order to prevent domestic violence. He was never prosecuted!!!


At the time of Devin's slaying, Martin was on parole for robbery and previously was convicted of armed robbery, burglary and weapons violations.
 
  • #33
If you murder a child then YOU die immediatly, no second chance, no discussion. That should be law. Maybe if it were law then our children would be safer. The fact that this piece of trash murdered a baby and was allowed to continue to breathe air into his lungs and walk the streets is proof that this country and the world does not yet understand that humans ARE animals and when one attacks and kills he or she should be put down. We do it to dogs and they are guilty of less since their ability to think rationally is unlikely, but to human dogs, we put them in cells and feed them, warm them and then let them out to do worse.

I am so sick today from reading about kid's being killed.
 
  • #34
This is really sad--I hadn't seen it posted yet. Zoelina Williams' body was found at Aquatic Park in Berkeley; on Sunday, kayakers found the body of a baby who has now been identified as her 17 month old son, Jashon. Curtis Martin III is under arrest. They believe he beat and shot Zoelina because she may have witnessed Jashon's murder. Here's the rub: he beat another girlfriend's son to death 15 years ago.

What a beautiful looking baby...how could anyone do this? I hope this disgusting monster will go to prison for life this time. :furious:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=7124092

corrected to say he beat and shot Zoelina (not stabbed).
 
  • #35
He only served 6 years for killing that other baby and he choked and beat another woman and threatened her son.
:banghead:
 
  • #36
This is unfolding almost directly in my backyard. Tonight's news suggests that Z may have been dating this guy for some time whether her family knew or not. Also reports that Z's family had not seen Jashon since Halloween, and media is suggesting that she was murdered because she knew that CM had killed her baby. This might explain why the baby's body found by the kayakers showed more signs of decomp. She was found on solid ground in Aquatic Park, which has some waterway feeds from the Bay, but she had apparently been dragged from a van to her final dump site. If the baby had been killed and dumped at the same time, tides would not have dragged his body out into the marina proper by that time, IMO. CM may have killed Jashon earlier, dumped his body in the marina waters (not smart), been confronted by Z, killed her and took her body to his favorite dumping grounds. The kayakers who found the toddler's body did say that it appeared to be in an advanced state of decomp and that ribs were visible.

Oh, and when the cops stopped Martin at 4 a.m. before finding Z's body, he was wearing hospital-type booties and gloves, IIRC.
 
  • #37
Hasanni Cambell came to mind. He would look like he's been there for awhile.

SuziQ, good point. It's sickening that we even have to consider between two missing children in this case. FWIW, the news reports here are definitely saying the kayakers found a "toddler," and Hasanni was not of an age to be confused with a toddler.
 
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/17/BAUE1AM076.DTL&tsp=1

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Authorities, confirming for the first time that the body of a child found in the bay Sunday was that of Zoelina Williams' son, theorize that Curtis Martin III murdered the boy first. Then he killed Williams to keep her from revealing what he had done, police believe.
Martin, 38, who was convicted of beating a 3-year-old boy to death in 1994, made a brief appearance this afternoon in Alameda County Superior Court in Oakland. He did not speak as Judge Robert McGuiness read the criminal complaint aloud.
Relatives of the victims wept as McGuiness told Martin that besides being accused of murdering his girlfriend Williams, 23, of Oakland, he was charged with murdering her son, Jashon. Martin is also accused of enhancements for using a weapon and causing great bodily injury.
In addition, Martin was charged with two special circumstances, one alleging that he committed multiple murders and the other that he murdered Zoelina Williams because she was a "witness to a crime." Sources close to the investigation


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/17/BAUE1AM076.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0XBLivJRi
 
  • #39
Mother and baby are both so beautiful. Be at peace.

The monster must be stopped once and forever. Enough!!
 
  • #40
Why would anyone allow a man like this anywhere near their child???
 

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