Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #22

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  • #341
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
"we'll always challenge the dogs" says Lind of weekly training b/w certifications/calls. Says they hide things in rows of cars etc #Garland

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 36s36 seconds ago
In 2013, Sully invited to Calgary medical examiner's office to do a "little bit of PR" and a "little bit of training" #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 31s31 seconds ago
In 2013, Sully was invited to the medical examiner's office where he found a hidden jaw bone. #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 48s48 seconds ago
Sorry, Sully certified in 2009. Thought I heard 2008. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 52s53 seconds ago
2013 Sully went to Medical Examiners office #yyc did demo--used 12-14yr old lower jawbone in demo--hid in parking lot & found #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
In Sept 2013 Lind and Sully did their certification together. #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 22s23 seconds ago
@CalgaryPolice is the only unit in Western Canada with certified cadaver search dogs. #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 44s45 seconds ago
"He was a bit of a rock star, he was pretty phenomenal," says Lind of Sully as a cadaver dog. #Garland

It's hard to bring up anything "light" when talking about this case but i find it endearing how Lind speaks of Sully. Even from the tweets you can tell he loves and respects him.
 
  • #342
Oh gawd here we go......
 
  • #343
Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 3m3 minutes ago
Lind- Sully has been out about 18 times, 8 on homicide files
His success rate in real deployment was 100 percent #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 3m3 minutes ago
Sully has never failed any of his certification, Lind says. Lind is now qualified as an expert before the court. #Garland #yyc

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 2m2 minutes ago
After hearing qualifications, Sgt. Lind and Sully are certified by Justice David Gates as experts in area of cadaver dog searches #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 2m2 minutes ago
Judge rules both Sgt. Lind and Sully are experts in the area of cadaver searches #Garland
 
  • #344
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Lind says there are a couple other K9 unit members who are familiar w Sully and himself and could work with Sully if need be. #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
July 18/14 Lind says he and Sully attended #Garland farm #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 2m2 minutes ago
Lind says Sully has 100 per cent success rate; no wonder he loves this hard working dog. The two attended #Garland farm July 18/14

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 1m1 minute ago
Lind: July 18/14 “It was supposed to be an off duty day” instead attended #Garland property

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 1m1 minute ago
July 18, 2014: Lind and Sully attended #Garland farm. Requested to search for human remains in driveway & pond, garden area

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Lind says there were a number of search areas (driveway, pond, vestibule garden) that he and Sully were asked to search. #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Driveway: "Zero indications, zero alerts"Lind says of Sully searching driveway. #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
The pond was the same- zero interest or alerts- for Sully. #Garland #yyc

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 2m2 minutes ago
Sully found no results in driveway or pond #Garland


***no driveway alert on cadaver scent. First indication that they may have been alive when arriving at farm?
 
  • #345
[video=twitter;823644186650017792]https://twitter.com/MetroLucie/status/823644186650017792[/video]
 
  • #346
Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 2m2 minutes ago
Searched vegetable garden with Sully; green area btw outbuilding and garden, Sully showed "lots of interest." #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
"Sully showed lots of interest in that whole green area..there was also a bit of interest in front of greenhouse" says Lind. #Garland #yyc

Michael PlattVerified account ‏@SUNMichaelPlatt 2m2 minutes ago
Lind says Sully came up empty near pond and driveway but near veg garden he became excited. "He kept coming back, so excited" #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 1m1 minute ago
"He kept coming back to it, he was so excited ...' I'm close to a source, I'm close to getting my reward...'" says Lind of Sully. #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Despite his interest in green area Sully did not indicate finding human remains, Lind says. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 1m1 minute ago
Lind said Sully never "indicated" finding human remains though-- he never found a spot where he sat and waited for handler #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Crown has finished questioning Lind. He is now being cross-examined by defence Jim Lutz. #Garland #yyc
 
  • #347
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
Lutz asks if Sully can differentiate b/w things like pork, human blood etc. Lind says no. Lutz has no more questions. #Garland #yyc

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
When Sully indicates a detection it's one of four things, Lind tells defence, human blood, flesh or body, or pork. #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 2m2 minutes ago
1 q from defence and Lind is done testifying. #Garland
 
  • #348
Ina SidhuVerified account ‏@CTVInaSidhu 2m2 minutes ago
Next witness: Cst. Darcy Williams - since 2009 has been with CPS K-9 unit @CTVCalgary #garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Williams has been a member of CPS since 1998 and K9 unit since 2008, and detection trainer for unit since 2009. #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 1m1 minute ago
Cst. Darcy Williams is up now; with CPS since '98. With K-9 unit since 2008. Dressed in grey K-9 unit dog handler uniform. #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Const. Williams to be qualified in interpreting Sully's reactions. #Garland

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 1m1 minute ago
Sgt. Lind told the court that Sully was taken to the #Garland farm but didn't show any indication that he had found a body.

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now34 seconds ago
WIlliams said CPS began their cadaver detection program in 2008, said he's known Sully since CPS got him has seen him in training #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 5s6 seconds ago
Const. Williams says Calgary police didn't commence cadaver program until 2008. Only one in western Canada. #Garland
 
  • #349
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 22s22 seconds ago
Williams also has a diploma in criminology from Mt. Royal University. #Garland #yyc

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 14s14 seconds ago
Sully did get excited about an area near the greenhouse on the #Garland farm. "He was so excited": May have been close to remains.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 43s44 seconds ago
To clarify: earlier witness Lund testifed that despite interest, Sully never indicated he had found a body on #Garland farm.

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts now50 seconds ago
Const. Williams joined the canine unit in 2005. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now41 seconds ago
"With detection dogs it's a game of hide and seek, they don;'t know what they're looking for," says Williams of search dogs. #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 22s23 seconds ago
Williams says he can tell when Sully is "interested" or "alerted" by something. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 33s34 seconds ago
"stops suddenly, turns his head...we watch for a change of breathing too," says Williams of Sully when alerted. #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 31s32 seconds ago
Williams says can distinguish diff between interest, alert and indication, the three levels from lowest to highest in trained dog. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 42s43 seconds ago
"Sully would indicate by a sit.. we want the dogs to get their noses as close as possible w/o touching it," says Williams. #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney now41 seconds ago
If Sully was "indicating" -- highest level -- he would sit down. #Garland
 
  • #350
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 33s34 seconds ago
prior to July 2014 Sully had been training with Cst. Johnston as Lind had indicated he would be changing gears in his career. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now43 seconds ago
Williams says Sully was able to work with Johston and Lind at that point. (July 2014) #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 31s32 seconds ago
Sully "on active retirement" at age 10; can still do the job, would re-certify if needed again. #Garland

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg now54 seconds ago
Sully is now on "active retirement" and Williams says CPS will use the rockstar dog "on emergency basis" if needed #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt now36 seconds ago
Cst. Williams is an expert in dog handling, and on how Sully communicates findings. #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney now54 seconds ago
July 5/14: Williams attended #Garland farm with Sully. Wind that day they used to their advantage, he says.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney now48 seconds ago
Williams had a backup dog handler officer at #Garland farm that day.

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 1m1 minute ago
Williams arrived w/ Sully on #Garland farm on July 5, 2014 around 6pm. Sully's normal handler was on vacation

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
Williams on July5/14: "based on the wind/layout of land" Willams chose to work S-N "looking for an alert or indication" #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 1m1 minute ago
Williams: started out far sw of property bc of winds that day. "Hoping for an alert or an indication," he says. #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 40s40 seconds ago
Allowed Sully to range out on his own, "off-line," Williams calls it. Run free, to do his search of #Garland farm.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 16s17 seconds ago
Immediately Sully showed "an immense amount of interest" between a rock pile and trailer. Came to a "sit" at the rock pile. #Garland

Michael PlattVerified account ‏@SUNMichaelPlatt 47s48 seconds ago
Cst. Williams on #Garland farm with Sully, July 5, 2014. Dog showed "immense interest" in rock pile, before sitting, the signal for remains.

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 35s36 seconds ago
They worked in a northern direction, "he immediately went to the east towards outbuilding 2" #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 1m1 minute ago
The area Sully sat was near the burn pit at #Garland farm. Then Sully spent "a lot of time" near out building, did an alert.

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 7s8 seconds ago
Williams says Sully showed a lot of interest in outbuilding 2, along the wall...etc He notified investigators. #Garland #yyc
 
  • #351
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now22 seconds ago
After a short break, Sully showed an alert around the burn barrel and came to a sit facing burn barrel (west) #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 28s29 seconds ago
After 20 mins, gave Sully a 20-min rest. Sully then shows an alert around the burn barrel and wood chipper. Then sits. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 42s43 seconds ago
Williams: Sully showed an alert around the burn barrel and woodchipper--he sat facing the burn barrel-beside the barrel #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 19s19 seconds ago
"I noticed a really big difference in Sully's behaviour,his nose was to the ground and he was going back and forth between the area"#Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 23s24 seconds ago
Willams says he noted a slight "tinge" in the ground or change of colour. #Garland #yyc
 
  • #352
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now42 seconds ago
Towards outbuilding #3 Sully had another alert near a storage rack. Said he saw a green sweater hanging. Told investigator #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 12s12 seconds ago
Outbuilding 3: Didn't feel safe as chemicals in pails, would come back after it was secured. #Garland

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg now25 seconds ago
In another area: Williams "noticed a really big difference in Sully's behaviour...I'd never seen something like this from him"#Garland

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 20s20 seconds ago
At outbuilding #3 - Sully gives an alert near a storage rack. Wiliams notices a small green sweater hanging on rack #Garland
 
  • #353
Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg now36 seconds ago
Afternoon break in #Garland
 
  • #354
My heart sank when they said the dog gave an alert at the wood chipper...
 
  • #355
Hi all - I was a poster when they originally went missing. Stopped lurking and joined up again.

I kept seeing the wood chipper in the images and knew it had to be involved. There's no way he could eliminate bodies that fully in a barrel. So awful...

With the defense asking about Sully being able to distinguish between pork/human remains I can see them trying to bust out something about composting kitchen garbage for garden soil but not when you find this quantity.

Thank you Kamille for the Twitter posts today!
 
  • #356
Alert by the burn barrel...
 
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  • #358
Welcome back Hearts
 
  • #359
Hi all - I was a poster when they originally went missing. Stopped lurking and joined up again.

I kept seeing the wood chipper in the images and knew it had to be involved. There's no way he could eliminate bodies that fully in a barrel. So awful...

I remember the wood chipper distinctly as well from the investigation. Even with that I don't even begin to imagine what some of the evidence is suggesting. This is so hard getting tiny, tiny bits of info at a time..,
 
  • #360
Sully's over the top reaction to the small green sweater :scared:
 
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