Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #25

[Kamille]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 37s38 seconds ago
New software for "gene-mapping" was introduced to the RCMP a few weeks into the #Garland investigation, said Mohrbutter. #yyc

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 31s32 seconds ago
Crown prosecutor Shane Parker taking Mohrbutter through her training as a forensic expert. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now27 seconds ago
She said the software helps analyze the DNA data and identify more elements of DNA. #Garland #yyc

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt now40 seconds ago
Right now the crown is going through Mohrbutter's training--as they seek to have her qualified as an expert forensic lab specialist #Garland

 

[PrincessButtercup]

I know. She is only 4, brought up from the South and we call her the Secretariat (sp?)of hunting labs. Sorry for the O/T folks. I promise no more doggy posts lol.

It's okay 😊 totally love my doggies ❤

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[Kamille]

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[Bravo]

I just read about new equipment available for DNA testing in the Cleveland case. I wonder if it's the same.

 

[Kamille]

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[Kamille]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 10s11 seconds ago
Mohrbutter currently taking the jury through her qualifications, she has testified 19 times at provincial and supreme court level. #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney now58 seconds ago
Mohrbutter talking about software introduced into #Garland investigation for gene mapping; She's testified 19 times before in trials.

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts now46 seconds ago
This is the 20th time Mohrbutter has testified as a DNA expert. #Garland

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 29s30 seconds ago
Mohrbutter is qualified as DNA expert, allowed to give opinion evidence #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now43 seconds ago
Justice Gates is satisfied with Mohrbutter's qualifications and she is qualified as a DNA expert allowed to give opinion evidence. #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Michael PlattVerified account ‏@SUNMichaelPlatt now54 seconds ago
Expertise of Mohrbutter established. #Garland trial now hearing "DNA 101" to explain how it works. #yyc

Ina SidhuVerified account ‏@CTVInaSidhu now49 seconds ago
DNA is genetic material of all living things, our generic blue print - says Mohrbutter #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney now35 seconds ago
"Our genetic blueprint," each person receives 1/2 DNA from mother, 1/2 father. Mohrbutter giving jurors a lesson now in DNA basics. #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland now39 seconds ago
Mohrbutter is giving an explanation for the court and jury on what DNA is. No person has the exact same DNA. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now38 seconds ago
Mohrbutter is giving jurors the coles notes version: what is DNA, where is it in the body, how DNA differs person to person. #Garland #yyc

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts now40 seconds ago
With the exception of identical twins, no two humans have the same DNA, says Mohrbutter. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now24 seconds ago
DNA is a person's "genetic blueprint" and can be obtained from blood, semen, hair, skin cells, tissue, bone and teeth and saliva #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts now1 minute ago
To dispel a myth, Mohrbutter says scientists can't get DNA from everything people touch. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt now47 seconds ago
prosecutor asks Mohrbutter: Can you get DNA from everything someone touches-she says depends on the amt of biological material left #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Michael PlattVerified account ‏@SUNMichaelPlatt 10s11 seconds ago
Mohrbutter telling #Garland trial about difficulties obtaining DNA, and minimum threshold for getting an accurate profile. #yyc

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg now54 seconds ago
Minimum amount of DNA the RCMP lab needs to be able to test it: 1 billionth of a gram #Garland

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland now42 seconds ago
DNA testing does not tell anything about physical aspects of an individual but you can tell whether it is male or female. #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 24s25 seconds ago
It's a bit harder to get DNA from hair, need the root, says Mohrbutter; DNA typing can determine gender, but not other features. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 5s6 seconds ago
Mohrbutter: “DNA typing system does not tell us anything about the physical characteristics of the individual”-can tell gender #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 7s7 seconds ago
DNA testing can't determine physical characteristics, such as eye colour, but does show gender, says Mohrbutter. #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 15s15 seconds ago
Mixed profile: DNA that originates from two of more individuals. Single source profile: DNA from one individual #Garland #yyc

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland now52 seconds ago
Mohrbutter talking about terminology from her report. A mixed DNA profile originates from more than one individual. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now41 seconds ago
Major component: 2/3 of the DNA or more. Minor component: 1/3 of the DNA or less. #Garland #yyc

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt now34 seconds ago
Mohrbutter: mixed DNA profile is one that originates from 2 or more profiles-2/3 of DNA or more is major component-1/3 is minor #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 8s9 seconds ago
Mohrbutter says she can determine if the DNA comes from a single individual, two or more. #Garland

 

[Kamille]

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 50s51 seconds ago
Mohrbutter explained how DNA match probabilities work-when comparing unknown samples to known sample profiles #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt now40 seconds ago
Mohrbutter tells jury "we do have a quality control system in place at the lab" #Garland

 

[Cherchri]

MG, I believe you are reading here. Thank you for what you are doing with your coverage. It is greatly appreciated. I hope one day you will join us.

Yes - please do MG.

 

[Kamille]

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt now33 seconds ago
Mohrbutter said the RCMP lab takes measures to safeguard exhibits to prevent contamination #Garland

Bill Graveland ‏@BillGraveland 1m1 minute ago
Mohrbutter discussing quality control procedures in place at the RCMP forensic lab - to safeguard exhibits and prevent contamination.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 49s50 seconds ago
Have protocols for safeguarding exhibits, says Mohrbutter. Guidelines for training technologists, interpreting results. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 29s30 seconds ago
Mohrbutter: they have a quality control system at the lab including written protocols, testing/analysis/interpretation guidelines #Garland

 

[Hatfield]

I agree - 100%. In this trial I think DG's defence attorneys have been very even handed. No heavy-hitting cross examination for obviously irrefutable evidence. They have only taken a shot at the little gaps here and there.

Its very interesting to me about the defense strategy in this case.

He has been very quiet so far and has hardly objected to anything. Almost too quiet. I almost get the feeling that they know he will be convicted and maybe he is doing very little on purpose to give DG a way to appeal later with an "ineffective counsel" argument.

Its either that or maybe there really has not been much they can object to.

I suppose we will find out more when its their turn to argue their case.

Can they still plead guilty at any time before the jury starts to deliberate? Maybe he is waiting to see how the case is going and then maybe try to arrange some sort of sentencing deal with prosecuters or is it too late for that?

 

[Cherchri]

Glad your here Kamille to do tweets. I have been nursing a hunting lab who has an ACL tear. Between icing her and keeping her quiet I am multi tasking. No surgery per Vet warranted at this point. Sorry for the O/T but wanted to say thank you to our terrific posters here. Sorry I cant help out.

So sorry to hear. My beautiful Labby had that injury - vet gave me very strong pain killers for her and instructions to keep her off her feet for as long as possible (we managed 4 days) - no surgery and 4 years later she is still 100%. Hoping the same for your furry one.

 

[Kamille]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 11s12 seconds ago
High temperatures can cause DNA to degrade- breaks down chemicals in DNA, according to Mohrbutter #Garland #yyc

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 7s8 seconds ago
"High temperatures can cause DNA to degrade," said Mohrbutter. Breaks it into smaller pieces and makes it harder to determine. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now56 seconds ago
Chemicals can also impact DNA in three ways. #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie now44 seconds ago
Some chemicals cause breaking of bonds in DNA, some bind, some interfere with extraction - all can inhibit ability to obtain DNA. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt now38 seconds ago
Mohrbutter: high temperatures can cause DNA to degrade--chemicals like bleach can also have an impact #Garland

Michael PlattVerified account ‏@SUNMichaelPlatt 11s11 seconds ago
Bleach, strong acids and bases can degrade DNA says Mohrbutter. High temps too. #Garland

 

[dogmatica]

Its very interesting to me about the defense strategy in this case.

He has been very quiet so far and has hardly objected to anything. Almost too quiet. I almost get the feeling that they know he will be convicted and maybe he is doing very little on purpose to give DG a way to appeal later with an "ineffective counsel" argument.

Its either that or maybe there really has not been much they can object to.

I suppose we will find out more when its their turn to argue their case.

Can they still plead guilty at any time before the jury starts to deliberate? Maybe he is waiting to see how the case is going and then maybe try to arrange some sort of sentencing deal with prosecuters or is it too late for that?

I think it's very unlikely the defense is slacking in hopes of Garland filing and ineffectual counsel motion. That would mean they're throwing themselves under a bus just to see this guy walk free. That would be illegal and evil. I think they just don't have a whole lot to object to. In Canada you see that sometimes - almost as if the Defense is just going through the motions, making sure everything is done correctly. I'm sure they know their client doesn't really stand a chance.