Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #26

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Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 1m1 minute ago
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Arns adds he may have been hit several times. #Garland #yyc
 
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YES it fits. I wonder if thats why he walked back to the truck. First, check that all is "a go" then go back to the truck for a hit?
With crimes this intense and violent and frenzied, you often read about the perp being on meth, or crack or PCP or something. It does fit. I'd be surprised if he were sober. But I don't think we'll ever know one way or another.
 
  • #143
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 30s31 seconds ago
Arns now moving into the Likneses garage. #Garland #yyc
 
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With crimes this intense and violent and frenzied, you often read about the perp being on meth, or crack or PCP or something. It does fit. I'd be surprised if he were sober. But I don't think we'll ever know one way or another.

Wonder if they did a D&A on DG when he was arrested.
 
  • #145
Sounds like he used the hammer that was in the burn barrel. Probably hit his own knee with it, too.
 
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TWO HUNDRED splatter stains???
 
  • #147
IMO , GRAPHIC and DISTURBING:

We have both KL and AL being close to the ground when impact happened. I feel sure he injected them with something, they stumbled and went down then the sick coward attacked. I think he slit N's throat. I'm so very very sorry.

If he'd slit his throat wouldn't he bleed out? Unless the journalists are leaving something out I didn't think there was that much blood. I mean that would be a lot of blood and a medical examiner would be able to say without a doubt that Nathan had died.
 
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Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 1m1 minute ago
Arns moving onto lower part of the home from kitchen to the garage #Garland #yyc

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
DNA of both Kathy and Alvin Liknes found in area by side door of their home. #Garland


[video=twitter;829410422595817472]https://twitter.com/CBCBryan/status/829410422595817472[/video]
 
  • #149
Wonder if they did a D&A on DG when he was arrested.
I wonder. It was a few days later, right? I doubt they would have - I think they only do that for DUI, or if someone appears wasted when they're arrested. But who knows.
 
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Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
Multiple swipe patterns observed on wall of stairs down to side exit of Liknes home, says Arns. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 2m2 minutes ago
Arns now going through her findings from the stairwell from the kitchen to the garage of the Liknes home #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 2m2 minutes ago
Arns: stairwell from kitchen to garage level, multiple diagonal swipe patterns, from between 1 to 2 metres above the floor. #Garland


2 meters? That's pretty high. For US folks, I think 1 meter is about 39". Someone can correct me
 
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Ina SidhuVerified account ‏@CTVInaSidhu 56s57 seconds ago
DNA from Alvin also found in the bloody stairwell going to lower level #Garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 1m1 minute ago
The blood stains on stairs leading from kitchen to garage had DNA matches for Kathy and Alvin Liknes. #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Staining on stairwell wall had both Kathy and Alvin Liknes' DNA in it. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 3m3 minutes ago
Transfer and swipe patterns observed by Arns on wall of stairs from kitchen to garage at Liknes home. DNA match for Kathryn. #Garland
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
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Alvin Liknes' DNA also found in this area. #Garland #yyc
 
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Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 55s56 seconds ago
Transfer, dip and saturation stains noted at lower level landing heading into garage. DNA match for Alvin Liknes. #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 57s58 seconds ago
Arns: Lower level landing of Liknes home, transfer, drip, and a saturation stain observed. DNA there matched to Alvin Liknes. #Garland

Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 2m2 minutes ago
Blood stains on stairwell wall leading to garage had DNA matching both Liknes' #Garland #yyc
 
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Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 1m1 minute ago
Arns shows the court a graphic/disturbing photo of blood stains found in the lower landing (near garage) of Liknes home-DNA Alvin #Garland
 
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Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 47s48 seconds ago
Blood stains on carpet of garage landing matches Alvin Liknes DNA #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
Blood stain that was DNA match for Alvin Liknes indicated he was "at or near floor level when that impact occurred," said Arns. #Garland
 
  • #155
Hey folks, I'm just getting caught up on the trial this morning and discussion from last night.

Thanks go out to whoever noticed that the aerial photo was actually from July 1 and was likely touched up at some point. I had only focused on the DG farm and I hadn't looked at any metadata associated with the file. On the download page I had noticed it said two files but only one was available for download and the Pilot mentioned they had acquired two photos so I just assumed the July 1 photo had been deleted.

As for today, I'm trying to picture how DG would have attacked both Kathy and Alvin in their beds. I would assume that as soon as the first attack occurred the second person would have woken up from the noise and /or screams. It seems like Kathy was attacked and dragged down the stairs. It doesn't appear that Alvin was dragged down the stairs so he must have been in decent shape after being attacked in bed and he was told to walk downstairs. It looks like he was again attacked downstairs by the garage. Or - DG attacked Alvin and thought that he had incapacitated him in the bedroom. He was moving Kathy/Nathan to the exit door and Alvin "came to" and walked downstairs to see what was going on and was attacked again by the garage when he encountered DG down there.
 
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Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 22s23 seconds ago
"Could have been a dumb bell," says Arns when asked by Crown. "Not indicative of a gunshot" re: blood stain pattern near garage. #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 47s48 seconds ago
Alvin Liknes would have been struck again while at or near floor level by the side exit to the home, says Arns. #Garland
 
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Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 42s42 seconds ago
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Arns was explaining why the blood wasn't indicative of a gunshot. #Garland
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
"Could be a foot, could be a hand, could be a dumbbell..it's more indicative of a blunt object," Arns of blood lower level landing. #Garland
 
  • #158
I don't know how AL, KL, and NO could have been alive when they were taken from their home. I don't think DG would have risked transporting them in the back of his truck if they were alive.
This is making me sick thinking of KL and NO together in the room when DG came in there.
 
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Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 1m1 minute ago
Arns says blood stains on floor and wall of stairwell to garage indicates at least one impact to Alvin Liknes near the ground. #Garland #yyc

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 46s47 seconds ago
Arns: “It would be a heavier impact” -what Alvin suffered on lower landing “-said could be a bat foot, hand, dumb bell-blunt force #Garland
 
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Ina SidhuVerified account ‏@CTVInaSidhu 1m1 minute ago

#Garland trial on lunch break. Blood stain analysis will continue at 2 @CTVCalgary
 
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