Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #27

[MistyWaters]

Here is an old news story regarding Section 230 of the Criminal Code and how it affected the Travis Vader verdict.





http://globalnews.ca/news/2945753/travis-vader-verdict-what-is-section-230-of-the-criminal-code/

That was an interesting case. But it was a 2nd degree murder conviction that was tossed out, not 1st Degree,

 

[naz]

Sadly max is 50 for consecutive sentancing but 50 is good too

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Not arguing here, I usually do not follows cases that closely.. but I thought Olson(sp) was given a few consecutive sentences.. is that because there was more on than one trial ?

 

[MistyWaters]

No decision tree was tweeted out about NO, but judge did say it is different than A&K. Nathan's decision tree should include forcible confinement. If the crown was right during their closing statement they said that if Nathan was alive outside of that bedroom it was forcible confinement as a five-year-old can not stand up to a grown man and gey away.

It seemed he was not as injured as the other two either.

Regardless I have faith this judge knows what he's doíng.

 

[PrincessButtercup]

That guy who killed the Mounties got 75.

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/10/31/justin-bourque-to-be-sentenced-for-moncton-nb-mountie-shootings

There is no max afaik.

My mistake, that's just the maximum they can sentence before he can apply for bail.

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[dogmatica]

Not arguing here, I usually do not follows cases that closely.. but I thought Olson(sp) was given a few consecutive sentences.. is that because there was more on than one trial ?

There's no 50 year max.

 

[PrincessButtercup]

It seemed he was not as injured as the other two either.

Regardless I have faith this judge knows what he's doíng.

I think we couldn't have asked for a better judge.

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[JadeSLeuth]

Dangerous Offender status .... FOREVER sentence.

lease:

 

[Cherchri]

Sadly max is 50 for consecutive sentancing but 50 is good too

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Yup - I doubt he would survive to 107 years of age. Hoping he gets sorted out in "the big house"

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Nancy Hixt story:

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 1m1 minute ago
UPDATED: Fate of accused triple-murderer Douglas #Garland to be put in hands of jury

[video=twitter;831982283447898112]https://twitter.com/NancyHixt/status/831982283447898112[/video]

 

[dogmatica]

My mistake, that's just the maximum they can sentence before he can apply for bail.

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Not bail - but 75 years before he can apply for parole. And technically, the law now allows for each murder conviction to be 25 years before parole eligibility - consecutively. 1st degree murder is not 25 years - it's life, with eligibility for parole after no less than 25 years. So if the judge wants to (if DG is convicted of 3 1st degree murders), he can sentence DG to 3 life terms, with no eligibility for parole for 75 years.

 

[Cherchri]

Not bail - but 75 years before he can apply for parole. And technically, the law now allows for each murder conviction to be 25 years before parole eligibility - consecutively. 1st degree murder is not 25 years - it's life, with eligibility for parole after no less than 25 years. So if the judge wants to (if DG is convicted of 3 1st degree murders), he can sentence DG to 3 life terms, with no eligibility for parole for 75 years.

Correct. Here's a link http://acalgarycriminaldefencelawyer.ca/court-hands-down-longest-sentence-in-canadian-history/

 

[dogmatica]

And that doesn't mean he'll get out in 75 (obv. he'll be dead), only that he's eligible for parole after 75.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts
Resumption of jury charge by Justice David Gates delayed for unknown reason. #Garland

 

[Sillybilly]

Folks, if we're going to debate legalities, please provide acceptable links to back up what you are stating as fact.

:wave:

 

[missy1974]

JadeSleuth ... or anyone else following twitter.... who should I follow on twitter to watch for the verdict if I was to follow just one reporter? I don't want to follow all of them lol But would like to be able to know/check quickly while at work tomorrow

 

[dogmatica]

Re: dangerous offender status...I don't believe he'd qualify. I think that's reserved for multiple offenders - ie. more than 1 (set) of crimes. I could be wrong - that may just be a guideline and not a rule. I'd be thrilled with a DO designation. However, even with 1 first degree murder conviction, DG won't even be eligible for parole until he's 81.

 

[dogmatica]

Folks, if we're going to debate legalities, please provide acceptable links to back up what you are stating as fact.

:wave:

http://acalgarycriminaldefencelawyer.ca/court-hands-down-longest-sentence-in-canadian-history/

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/10/31/justin-bourque-to-be-sentenced-for-moncton-nb-mountie-shootings

 

[JadeSLeuth]

JadeSleuth ... or anyone else following twitter.... who should I follow on twitter to watch for the verdict if I was to follow just one reporter? I don't want to follow all of them lol But would like to be able to know/check quickly while at work tomorrow

Nancy Hixt or Lucie Edwardson will likely be the quickest to post... I like these four for being really on top of it. Or get Tapatalk on your phone and subscribe to one of us thats covering the tweets.

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie
Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts
Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg

 

[PrincessButtercup]

Not bail - but 75 years before he can apply for parole. And technically, the law now allows for each murder conviction to be 25 years before parole eligibility - consecutively. 1st degree murder is not 25 years - it's life, with eligibility for parole after no less than 25 years. So if the judge wants to (if DG is convicted of 3 1st degree murders), he can sentence DG to 3 life terms, with no eligibility for parole for 75 years.

Ugh, sorry, I'm at work and clandestinely following and responding... I should know better than to work and type 😊

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[JadeSLeuth]

Re: dangerous offender status...I don't believe he'd qualify. I think that's reserved for multiple offenders - ie. more than 1 (set) of crimes. I could be wrong - that may just be a guideline and not a rule. I'd be thrilled with a DO designation. However, even with 1 first degree murder conviction, DG won't even be eligible for parole until he's 81.

Ahhh a girl can dream ....