Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 June 2014 - #3

[Cherchri]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/nathan-o-brien-amber-alert-person-of-interest-has-criminal-past-new-charge-1.2698107
New charge:
On Friday, police took Garland into custody for questioning related to the search for five-year-old Nathan O'Brien and his grandparents, Kathy and Alvin Liknes, and CBC News has learned police have charged him with stealing the identity of Matthew Kemper Hartley -- a 14-year-old Alberta boy killed in a car crash in 1980.

Wonder if they can hold him now?

he already served 39 months for that crime.

 

[QuestionMark]

JMO but after reading articles about the POI, I think he appears to be quite smart. He defended himself successfully to acquire benefits he "earned" while a fugitive and using a false identity (that of a deceased teen). So he breaks multiple laws (false id and is a fugitive) and he manages to get the courts to side with him? DANG. It is scary how smart this guy seems to be... I hope they have profilers and psychologists on this case (if he is in fact involved).
JMO

 

[CrazyCanuck]

I think the way it works is for obtaining warrants on the weekend and after business hours is that one of the assistant chief crown prosecutors is on call for weekend warrants and arrest decisions (assistant chief crown prosecutors have this weekend role on rotation). A Judge is probably on rotation for those decisions as well. With the probable cause of a vehicle matching the one at the crime scene, a warrant would have been issued for the vehicle, the property, the house, and probably for any businesses associated with the owner of the vehicle.

I would expect that all departments connected with homicide investigations will be involved with the search.

I would think that LE would have to have more on CCTV than the truck in the area for probable cause. They would have had to see the truck in the driveway during the hours that the crime occurred I would think. If they can see the likeness house they may have seen the family be removed from the home.

 

[puppyraiser]

he already served 39 months for that crime.

no, he hadn't been charged with identity theft... this is a new charge according to the CBC article and he will appear in court on Monday

 

[PonderingNS]

DG now facing charges from old case.
In other words we need something to hold you on ??
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2698107

 

[Deleted member 117120]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...terest-has-criminal-past-new-charge-1.2698107

Garland told the court at the time he had been traumatized after causing what he described as a horrific accident after falling asleep behind the wheel.



Did DG cause the crash that killed the boy he assumed the identity of?

How can we cross reference that to see?

 

[kittymeow]

DG hasn't been charged with anything yet, we still don't know if he played any part in these disappearances....JMO

I'm making sure to keep this in the front of my mind!

 

[Cherchri]

DG now facing charges from old case.
In other words we need something to hold you on ??
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2698107

Correct I'm sure

 

[PonderingNS]

I tried looking for that earlier today but didn't find any connection other than that he stated he caused a crash and the name of the boy who's identity he took. Nothing saying that it was the boy from the accident but that was quite awhile ago.

 

[xheraldina]

Person of interest in missing family search, Douglas Garland. File photos courtesy @calgaryherald
https://twitter.com/BigStuff7/status/485920117336051712/photo/1

 

[Deleted member 117120]

DG now facing charges from old case.
In other words we need something to hold you on ??
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2698107

And if they can use this new arrest as leverage to gain information on missing family not to imply he has any connection to it but may know something.

 

[kittymeow]

JMO but after reading articles about the POI, I think he appears to be quite smart. He defended himself successfully to acquire benefits he "earned" while a fugitive and using a false identity (that of a deceased teen). So he breaks multiple laws (false id and is a fugitive) and he manages to get the courts to side with him? DANG. It is scary how smart this guy seems to be... I hope they have profilers and psychologists on this case (if he is in fact involved).
JMO

It's very impressive for someone to represent themselves and win even in the best of circumstances. The way he did it is even more impressive. He's clearly intelligent and a hard worker, but maybe doesn't have a great moral compass to assume an identity of a victim child.

I'd say overall his history shows that he will take great (immoral and illegal) lengths to ensure his own best interests.

 

[puppyraiser]

How can we cross reference that to see?

Not sure but one article stated the child died in 1980. DG would have been 20 at the time of the accident and likely attending the U of A.

 

[bornofposeidon]

How can we cross reference that to see?

No clue. Anybody know? It likely has no relevance to the current amber alert.

It's either an excuse he used in court. The truth and it involves the boy from the car crash. The truth but related to a different accident.

 

[appleeye]

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2698107

Not sure of this has been posted but CBC has officially named person of interest

 

[cathdawg]

I think she is with a son of AL's from a previous marriage.

 

[kittymeow]

DG now facing charges from old case.
In other words we need something to hold you on ??
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2698107

Absolutely fascinating.

 

[roseofsharon]

Why was DG driving on the L street so many times?

 

[Mel 1303]

I posted this previously but will post it again for those who may have missed it.
http://caselaw.canada.globe24h.com/0/0/federal/tax-court-of-canada/2005/03/03/garland-v-m-n-r-2005-tcc-176.shtml

So DG's use of an assumed identity should not be grounds for a new charge?

 

[LoriMcA]

http://injusticebusters.org/index.htm/newstories3.htm

[SIZE=-2]May 31, 1999

[/SIZE]"He faces charges of impersonation, trafficking in a controlled substance, theft over $5,000, possession of break-in instruments, possession of property obtained by crime over $5,000 and obstructing a police officer."

So if he was charged with impersonation in 1999...is identity theft now...a different type of charge?