Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 June 2014 - #6

[garbagetweet]

One thing that I found that I haven't seen posted before (which may not actually mean anything) is that if you search the Liknes home address there is a business that comes up attached to the house which is Lifestyle Flooring Ltd[modsnip]. When you search for that company in Calgary nothing directly comes up. This makes me wonder if it is yet another shell company for the Liknes family.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

Following the main floor plan is the kitchenette eating area which is located at the rear of the front window area, noting the front living room carpet connecting to the eating area.
Also this is a very bright area as shown by MSM photos of front of home where you can see the front and rear windows clearly through the home on the right hand side of the front porch entrance.

 

[Sillybilly]

Snipped by me for being pointless.

I seem to recall reading comments by others (can't recall if employees or former associates) that they felt the county was taxing AL's company exorbitantly and very unfairly.

 

[Weebles]

Some online business directories link Alvin Liknes with several oil and gas companies, including Vecto Resource Services, Bluesky Oil and Gas Corp., and AKF Holdings Inc.

Metro Calgary has reported that his latest business venture, a small firm called Winter Petroleum Ltd., was forced to close a few weeks ago after it had its equipment seized over $800,000 in owed taxes. The National Post reported Alvin Liknes declared bankruptcy in 1994. His wife, a real-estate-agent-turned-website-design consultant, did the same in 2012.

http://lethbridgeherald.com/news/national-news/2014/07/10/calgary-police-investigate-whether-business-played-role-in-missing-persons-case/

 

[peony27]

I don't think it can be luminol, you wouldn't see it.



http://science.howstuffworks.com/luminol1.htm

There's a few other chemicals LE uses to detect blood that do turn that colour.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

This is the basement area as shown by the steps on the left hand side. Typical for a side split home where the stairs go up and down in the centre of the home versus a raised bungalow that goes down typically at the foyer area or in the centre of the home. Note that there is a washroom and what appears to be two rooms and/or bedrooms.
I can imagine that NO was sleeping in the basement that evening as the grandparents could have been busy upstairs sorting, packing or cleaning up after the sale.

 

[Weebles]

CALGARY — The former head office of Winter Petroleum Ltd. sits on the second floor of a Calgary strip mall: the office is now dark, the desks barren, the door locked.

This was apparently Alvin Liknes’ company. The property manager said she often saw Mr. Liknes around the building: he was a good man, she said, and the company always paid its rent on time.

The space was cleared out sometime around June 29 — on the same weekend Mr. Liknes disappeared from his home, along with his wife, Kathryn, and five-year-old grandson, Nathan O’Brien, according to the property manager.

........

Mr. Carson said Vecto was working on a type of pump that could keep water out of oil and gas wells, allowing them to be productive for longer stretches of time; however, Mr. Liknes’s invention didn’t work out, and the plan was dropped.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/09/investigators-delving-into-alvin-liknes-business-dealings-in-bid-to-find-him-his-wife-and-his-grandson/

 

[craftybatchy]

I'm not sure if this has been covered yet, please forgive me if it has. Has anyone investigated the possibility of any of the missing carrying some sort of life insurance policy?

That's a good question. The problem is, there is no proof (which has been made public) that any of the missing are deceased.

The process of having someone declared deceased without physical proof (a body) for the purposes of cashing in on a life insurance policy is lengthy, convoluted, and costly.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

There's a few other chemicals LE uses to detect blood that do turn that colour.

Yep. Leucocrystal Violet is one of them. It's sprayed onto a surface, leaves a purple/violet stain:

Leucocrystal violet is now being used extensively for shoeprint enhancement with
considerable success. Its major disadvantage is that the stains are indelible, so it cannot be
used in situations where the surface is required to be left clean. It is extremely easy to use, as
a light spray with the reagent solution produces a purple stain almost immediately. This is
very easily photographed. There are a number of other reagents such as amido black which
can also be used for shoeprint enhancement. Some of these are specific for protein rather than
for blood.

Page 6 of this article: http://nzic.org.nz/ChemProcesses/biotech/12A.pdf

 

[garbagetweet]

I seem to recall reading comments by others (can't recall if employees or former associates) that they felt the county was taxing AL's company exorbitantly and very unfairly.

Speak with almost any executive, director or owner/operator of a oil and gas company in Alberta (especially junior companies) and they will tell you that they feel the Government is unfairly taxing them and that royalty rates are unfair. Royalties were especially tough and disliked between 2007 and 2011 when the Government raised them from earlier levels. The higher royalties, taxes and a capital environment which was very tough to attract investors and funding in created significant problems in the Alberta/Western Canada oil patch.

 

[sheshecanada]

Searching for airdrie on twitter a lot of the posts are now about a sexual assault that happened on the 29th. This is the first I am hearing about it. Wondering if they think he saw something out of the ordinary seeing as he broke into someone's house. Just weird that it is coming out this much later. Link to news report.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/police-seek-suspect-in-brazen-break-and-enter-1.1907966

Soooo this makes me EXTREMELY ANGRY I live in Airdrie first I have heard of this. It is very hot here it was 33 yesterday and I leave some windows open even thought I know better

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

CALGARY — The former head office of Winter Petroleum Ltd. sits on the second floor of a Calgary strip mall: the office is now dark, the desks barren, the door locked.

This was apparently Alvin Liknes’ company. The property manager said she often saw Mr. Liknes around the building: he was a good man, she said, and the company always paid its rent on time.

The space was cleared out sometime around June 29 — on the same weekend Mr. Liknes disappeared from his home, along with his wife, Kathryn, and five-year-old grandson, Nathan O’Brien, according to the property manager.

........

Mr. Carson said Vecto was working on a type of pump that could keep water out of oil and gas wells, allowing them to be productive for longer stretches of time; however, Mr. Liknes’s invention didn’t work out, and the plan was dropped.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/09/investigators-delving-into-alvin-liknes-business-dealings-in-bid-to-find-him-his-wife-and-his-grandson/

Makes you wonder if any of the office furniture/furnishings that were cleared out from the office ended up in the Liknes home (where else would they take them?) and sold @ their estate sale?

 

[sheshecanada]

I don't want this post to be morbid but I really don't know much about what happens after you die. If you are killed in a way there is no blood (like strangled), does your body release fluids immediately or does it take time. Again sorry if it is morbid or gives anyone graphic images.

I do not think you are being morbid I don't have the answer but definitely a good question.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Did the perp know they had til 10 am on Monday to vacate the crime scene or is it coincidental that the drag mark was cleaned up outside and everything/everyone was gone from the house by the time JO arrived.

Odd that! Someone taking the time to attempt to
clean whatever was on the walk.

 

[craftybatchy]

Makes you wonder if any of the office furniture/furnishings that were cleared out from the office ended up in the Liknes home (where else would they take them?) and sold @ their estate sale?

Wouldn't those furnishings be considered business assets and seized as part of bankruptcy proceedings ?

 

[Snoop Sister]

Very good question. Anyone know the answer to this?

 

[bullish]

Speak with almost any executive, director or owner/operator of a oil and gas company in Alberta (especially junior companies) and they will tell you that they feel the Government is unfairly taxing them and that royalty rates are unfair. Royalties were especially tough and disliked between 2007 and 2011 when the Government raised them from earlier levels. The higher royalties, taxes and a capital environment which was very tough to attract investors and funding in created significant problems in the Alberta/Western Canada oil patch.

Added to which is the fact that for at least the past couple or three years, venture capital was avoiding juniors like the plague, making financing very difficult to come by. This prevented growth for many small o&g companies, and forced some out of business. It started turning around some this year.

 

[bullish]

Odd that! Someone taking the time to attempt to clean whatever was on the walk.

Maybe he was afraid that as it dried it would show shoe prints.

 

[DaisyBlantyre]

Enviro Canada shows precip June 29 as 3.6mm and June 30 as 1.4. With the mud on AL's truck, is it possible the perp hosed down the walkway to eliminate muddy footprints.

At one point, I thought it possible that AL made a trip to the dump early morning to get rid of household items. If that was the case, there would be no reason for him to hose down his own footprints.

Just wanted to clarify for those not familiar with Calgary weather/reporting. There is no Enviro Canada office in Calgary. Calgary can rain in one quadrant in the city and be perfectly dry elsewhere. The official highs and lows of Calgary weather by Enviro Canada are recorded at the Calgary Airport located in the NE end of the city and are often inaccurate for the rest of our city.

There was measurable rain in the NE on those dates (I believe a storm) but in the South end of the city and near the neighbourhood of Mission (next to Parkhill) there was nothing more than a brief spitting.

Also as a rule majority of people in this city that own pickup trucks (which is a lot) never park them in a garage. If the dimensions of the lane side garage are ones that would fit a truck, IMHO it would have been parked there. Again, in my experience people usually stick to the same pattern of parking.

 

[PrincessButtercup]

I do not think you are being morbid I don't have the answer but definitely a good question.

So I found my mother-in-law's body last year after she had been dead of a major heart attack for approximately 11 hours. There was some dried clear fluid around her mouth/nose but no other fluid that I could see.