GUILTY Canada - Amanda Todd, 15, posts anti-bullying video apparently kills herself, 2012 *arrests*

  • #61
There is a RCMP police investigation ongoing. This wasn't simple 'bullying' to me; this was STALKING. Dissemination of Child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. Blackmail. Assault. I hope they find every last one of them and throw the book! This is under Federal control w/the RCMP investigating and Canada is OUTRAGED. Our PM likes to court public opinion on some issues, I hope THIS is one of them. We had another girl bullied to death, charges laid and conviction won. Reena Virk:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2009/04/14/f-virk-timeline.html

The video Amanda made is a must watch, this occurred over yrs and multiple moves. She was stalked, imo.

http://www.vancouversun.com/technol...eath+nets+tips+from+around/7387557/story.html

ALL IMO

The first thing I thought was that the stalker of this girl needed to be caught and prosecuted. Let's see what the government will do with the info from anonymous.

I would like to see a psychological profile on those bullies. I suspect they come from highly dysfunctional families and likely are psychopaths or budding psychopaths. I suspect they are going to be similar to Jerry Sandusky, Casey Anthony, Lori Drew, Kayla Narey, and Osama bin Laden.

The person who took the picture of Todd is likely antisocial, poor social skills, and has few friends, but likely extroverted. He is likely a pedophile similar to Jerry Sandusky and Jimmy Savile.

The bully or bullies (do not know how many) which led to Todd's suicide likely has a history of bullying and has had run-ins with the school and law. Most likely females, comes from a dysfunctional family where the parents are permissive and rarely use discipline.

I have a feeling this could be a major case.

BBM.

Hmmm. Looks like you were right!!!!:
The man identified by Anonymous appeared Monday at Surrey provincial court house, where he faces charges of sexual assault and sexual interference with a minor in a case unrelated to Todd.
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/alleged-amanda-todd-tormenter-tracked-down-1.997244#ixzz29aiVUrK5
 
  • #62
1) She stated in the video that she flashed her 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 online (i.e. admitted to creating child 🤬🤬🤬🤬) at the age 12 because a man online asked her too
2) She stated she had been in a mental hospital for suicidal tendencies, she is depressed, she cuts herself, and has no social life
3) She included her REAL NAME with the above and posted it on Youtube

Unless she was already planning to take her own life, that video would have caused her MANY MANY more problems both online and in real life (problems with people, possibly employers, maybe even legal problems).

Can't you see that?

No, I do not see it in the way that you do and I refuse to blame the victim here. Twelve year olds do not create child 🤬🤬🤬🤬, adults and perverts who view it and disseminate it do. Yes, she had ensuing difficulties as a result of that particular poor choice, and as a result of the subsequent bullying. That does not mean she was not entitled to attempt a degree of control in having a say about a rampant social issue that she personally had experiences with.
 
  • #63
1) She stated in the video that she flashed her 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 online (i.e. admitted to creating child 🤬🤬🤬🤬) at the age 12 because a man online asked her too
2) She stated she had been in a mental hospital for suicidal tendencies, she is depressed, she cuts herself, and has no social life
3) She included her REAL NAME with the above and posted it on Youtube

Unless she was already planning to take her own life, that video would have caused her MANY MANY more problems both online and in real life (problems with people, possibly employers, maybe even legal problems).

Can't you see that?

I have thought a lot about this case and there are several things that do stand out.

One of her post cards said I have nobody, I need someone. Her parents must feel really bad. I too wonder why she was so much online and why it was of so much importance to her. Yesterday I read an article, I too am a slutty *****

http://www.nj.com/parenting/index.ssf/2012/10/for_amanda_todd_i_am_a_slutty.html


It appears as though the title may have been edited/toned down since yesterday.

However nothing Amanda did was all that bad, if what she described in her Youtube video was accurate.

I don't know how to say this without sounding insensitive. It seems like Amanda liked or sought out the torture. You point out the cutting, that in itself is torturing to oneself.

What little she did (flashing her 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬) could have been laughed off, ignored and would not have festered into anything. Think of all the girls who flash for Mardi Gras, granted some may be older, others possibly the same age.

Like the author of the above link, I too wish I could have befriended Amanda, it seems like no one in her life let her know that social media amounts to absolutely nothing and the whole idea of these people being actually friends is stupid

I can remember an old post 10 years ago about why not to post your picture online.
http://3113.com/iphoto/internetPhoto.html

I feel really bad about Amanda, but more so for those around her that was not able to give her the support she so much needed.

I feel she spent much of her time looking for the ridicule

All we can do is to try to save the next child, figuring out what went wrong with Amanda will help as the writing was on the wall for some time.
 
  • #64
I'm glad he's doing a little better. What's his "best guess" as to what happened? Sometimes it's as simple as they think he did something he didn't, or an unusual physical feature or disability. Sometimes the answer is more complex, like an inability to take social cues and feedback.

Does he have a "best guess", so he can put all this in perspective and keep it from happening again?

Sorry Jeanna, in trying to summarize, my post wasn't very clear. The school bullying (the taunts, name-calling) never resulted in consequences for the offenders (no detentions, suspensions, expulsions). In addition to those in-school, non-criminal issues, he received an email from another student "you useless piece of monkey-$h!t ...even if you go to the police, remember that around every corner is another fist with your name written on it". We took that email to both the principal and the police with absolutely no action taken (the good student/athlete response from admin, and the "you know how it was when we were kids" from LE).

WRT the criminal issue of his cheekbone being broken by another student off school property, the young offender WAS charged, went through youth restorative justice, and wrote an apology. In fairness to that young man, he did offer to apologize in person, but my grandson didn't wish to meet with him. WRT the criminal issue where the adults assaulted him, although LE had a licence plate, they could not produce a picture for my grandson to identify anyone.

My grandson came to believe he was a "weirdo" and became almost agorophobic. He became very angry and turned to cutting, drugs and alcohol. Through his own sheer determination however, he was ultimately able to stop those behaviours and is finally getting back to being his usual sweet, sensitive, kind and caring self. He still struggles greatly with trying to understand how/why he was treated this way through the years.


 
  • #65
  • #66
No, I do not see it in the way that you do and I refuse to blame the victim here.

This started when I asked if she had online access at home. The video she posted should NEVER have gone up! Ever! I don't care what type of message it was intended to share, it was a HORRIBLE IDEA! And yes, minors have been charged and convicted of making and distributing child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 by sexting, which is exactly what this was.

To let an already emotionally messed up suicidal girl post something like that online (if she in fact was allowed internet access at home) was an extremely bad choice on the part of her parents. Even if she hadn't already been bullied it would have STARTED online bullying and very cruel comments at the very least. If the video was taken at her home why in the heck did she still have a webcam???

And yes I agree with manzana, there is definitely an element of masochism to the video, masochism and attention seeking. As far as the "slutty" article goes, I read somewhere that she was having an affair with an older man and the man's girlfriend assaulted her, perhaps she only mentioned that affair due to the assault.
 
  • #67
I have thought a lot about this case and there are several things that do stand out.

One of her post cards said I have nobody, I need someone. Her parents must feel really bad. I too wonder why she was so much online and why it was of so much importance to her. Yesterday I read an article, I too am a slutty *****

http://www.nj.com/parenting/index.ssf/2012/10/for_amanda_todd_i_am_a_slutty.html


It appears as though the title may have been edited/toned down since yesterday.

However nothing Amanda did was all that bad, if what she described in her Youtube video was accurate.

I don't know how to say this without sounding insensitive. It seems like Amanda liked or sought out the torture. You point out the cutting, that in itself is torturing to oneself.

What little she did (flashing her 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬) could have been laughed off, ignored and would not have festered into anything. Think of all the girls who flash for Mardi Gras, granted some may be older, others possibly the same age.

Like the author of the above link, I too wish I could have befriended Amanda, it seems like no one in her life let her know that social media amounts to absolutely nothing and the whole idea of these people being actually friends is stupid

I can remember an old post 10 years ago about why not to post your picture online.
http://3113.com/iphoto/internetPhoto.html

I feel really bad about Amanda, but more so for those around her that was not able to give her the support she so much needed.

I feel she spent much of her time looking for the ridicule

All we can do is to try to save the next child, figuring out what went wrong with Amanda will help as the writing was on the wall for some time.

Amanda did have a tremendous amount of support, both from her family and from professionals in the community, but what she wanted was the approval of whoever it was she connected with on facebook.

And that is just so sad. What strikes me is that there always have been bullies and always will be I suppose. But today bullying can be so instaneous and of the moment. And in teen groups there are leaders and followers. One of the cures for some of them is simply "outing" and public shaming, like the guy who posted that vicious comment on Facebook and a member of the public took the time to find out where he worked and sent the comment to his boss, who promptly fired him.

Sure, we can put laws in place - but I'm not certain how we go about giving our young people the tools for have solid enough self esteem so they understand that as we go through life we will always meet people who don't like us, don't approve of us, etc.etc. for any number of reasons. We each need to seek out our own "people". Peer approval was over the top for Amanda - so important that she took her own life. She did have friends - but not the friends she apparently wanted. We need answers but I just don't know what they are.
 
  • #68
I just heard on the news that a guy from London ON who posted a rude comment on the FB RIP page was tracked down and was fired from his job for the post that he made. His post was partially blacked out on the news, but I could read "Thank God this b---- is dead,”
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...omment-posted-on-memorial-page-to-amanda-todd

The woman who did that was on our local news last night. She just said this has gone too far and I'll do what I can do. She tracked down his boss, sent the email to him and basically said - so this person works for you and your company? Five minutes later he didn't.

I see we have an offshoot from last night just posted. Interesting - and I wonder how legal?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...lgary-amanda-todd-cyber-bullies-facebook.html
 
  • #69
The woman who did that was on our local news last night. She just said this has gone too far and I'll do what I can do. She tracked down his boss, sent the email to him and basically said - so this person works for you and your company? Five minutes later he didn't.

I see we have an offshoot from last night just posted. Interesting - and I wonder how legal?

You mean how legal is it for companies to fire employees that make offensive online comments?

Many companies (including the company I work for) have policies that say something about "offensive" comments linked to ones identity online (i.e. comments on a person's facebook page that lists their real name) as that can cause embarrassment, or even boycotts for companies. Course it is a gray area.

Now of course comments under an alias are different.
 
  • #70
You mean how legal is it for companies to fire employees that make offensive online comments?

Many companies (including the company I work for) have policies that say something about "offensive" comments linked to ones identity online (i.e. comments on a person's facebook page that lists their real name) as that can cause embarrassment, or even boycotts for companies. Course it is a gray area.

Now of course comments under an alias are different.

No Sonya610 - I agree with those policies - I actually meant the hundreds of women in Calgary who have banded together to work getting bullies and offensive comments off of Facebook and other places - see news link in my above post.
 
  • #71
I see we have an offshoot from last night just posted. Interesting - and I wonder how legal?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...lgary-amanda-todd-cyber-bullies-facebook.html
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IMO, there isn't any difference between what they are doing and our WS flag button to alert on unacceptable posts. If social media is part of the problem, perhaps they have a responsibility in helping develop the solutions.

Good on those Calgary gals for taking the bull by the horns. If it ends up in a legal battle, it may just shed more light on the matter.
 
  • #72
I'm glad he's doing a little better. What's his "best guess" as to what happened? Sometimes it's as simple as they think he did something he didn't, or an unusual physical feature or disability. Sometimes the answer is more complex, like an inability to take social cues and feedback.

Does he have a "best guess", so he can put all this in perspective and keep it from happening again?

That's what so hard Jeanna ... we can't put our finger on him being the cause of the bullying in any way that he could have changed. No disability, handsome, intelligent, sensitive, pacifist, talented, artistic, but vulnerable due to circumstances beyond his control (father deceased, abandoned by mom, living with oppressively religious great-grandparents before he came to live with me).

He was not a "fighter". After he was physically assaulted the second time, I arranged for highly-specialized+, personalized self-defense training as a way to make him feel more empowered and less vulnerable and fearful. This kid could pretty much take out an army when it was over. In one day, he was "walking tall". It was helpful, but he later said "i never wanted to learn to be violent in order to protect myself". However, i think he now appreciates that he has his own back if he ever needs to call on it. (I couldn't believe what I learned through watching the training ... amazing !!)
 
  • #73
The first thing I thought was that the stalker of this girl needed to be caught and prosecuted. Let's see what the government will do with the info from anonymous.



BBM.

Hmmm. Looks like you were right!!!!: http://bc.ctvnews.ca/alleged-amanda-todd-tormenter-tracked-down-1.997244#ixzz29aiVUrK5

The profile I did is typical of a bully and pedophile. This also applies to serial killers and mass murderers. The usual suspects, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Osama bin Laden, Eric Harris, and Jerry Sandusky.
 
  • #74
That's what so hard Jeanna ... we can't put our finger on him being the cause of the bullying in any way that he could have changed. No disability, handsome, intelligent, sensitive, pacifist, talented, artistic, but vulnerable due to circumstances beyond his control (father deceased, abandoned by mom, living with oppressively religious great-grandparents before he came to live with me).

He was not a "fighter". After he was physically assaulted the second time, I arranged for highly-specialized+, personalized self-defense training as a way to make him feel more empowered and less vulnerable and fearful. This kid could pretty much take out an army when it was over. In one day, he was "walking tall". It was helpful, but he later said "i never wanted to learn to be violent in order to protect myself". However, i think he now appreciates that he has his own back if he ever needs to call on it. (I couldn't believe what I learned through watching the training ... amazing !!)

Some people just bully because they are angry at the world.

Bullying and Terrorism
http://www.bullyonline.org/successunlimited/archive/terror.htm

Prevent Bullies Before They Become Prisoners - 60% of Bullies Have 1 Conviction by Age 24
http://ezinearticles.com/?Prevent-B...ullies-Have-1-Conviction-by-Age-24&id=1447882

Tim Field explores abuse including child abuse, physical and sexual abuse, emotional abuse, verbal abuse and the types, causes and consequences of abuse
http://www.bullyonline.org/related/abuse.htm
 
  • #75
I could almost substitute Amanda's name with my beautiful grandson, except he was called fat and f****t and tormented mercilessly Grades 1 through 9 when we finally took him out of school. He had his cheekbone broken because someone didn't like the pants he was wearing. He was dragged out of a store and beaten by grown men who didn't know him, but thought he "looked gay". The only different outcome in his case was "something" told me to come home early one day to find him unresponsive from an overdose, with letters written to all of us about how much he loved us but couldn't take it anymore. Fortunately, he survived because that "something" told me to go home.

Principals did nothing about the offenders (oh, so-and-so is a good student or a good athlete); LE did nothing about the offenders (oh well, you know how it was when we were kids), etc. Nobody was held accountable, there was no justice and the scars will always be there. Having lost both my children, living daily with the fear that something could happen to my grandson was almost more than I could bear. My heart is broken for what others did to my beautiful young boy who simply wasn't one of the mainstream, the jocks or the thugs. Way too much to go into here, but he is a young adult now who is so glad his suicide attempt was not successful. Like Amanda, he didn't really want to die, but he didn't want the pain anymore.

Unlike my grandson whose life was a living hell, his tormenters got their education and even successful careers.

I pray for zero tolerance in the schools, and IMO, bullying should constitute a hate crime and accordingly be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. My sweet young man is following Amanda's case along with me .. both of us hoping and praying that Amanda's legacy can be to somehow make a difference for the victims of bullying.

Thank you for sharing this, Sillybilly.
I am so glad to hear that your grandson is still with us, but sad to hear what he (and you) had to go through.

The good student/athlete just doesn't wash with me. They shouldn't get a free pass. All students should be treated equally. If the 'odd', non-athletic child did the bullying would they face harsher punishment? Why? Bullying is simply not acceptable, no matter who does it. Let's protect the victim and then try to understand what is causing the bully to behave in this way.
 
  • #76
The first thing I thought was that the stalker of this girl needed to be caught and prosecuted. Let's see what the government will do with the info from anonymous.



BBM.

Hmmm. Looks like you were right!!!!: http://bc.ctvnews.ca/alleged-amanda-todd-tormenter-tracked-down-1.997244#ixzz29aiVUrK5

I have not seen a handwriting from a bully, like Dharun Ravi and Molly Wei, Jennifer Petkov, or South Hadley 6. The only handwriting of a bully I have seen is Lori Drew's.

loridrewhandwriting.gif


It would be interesting to see their handwriting and do a handwriting analysis on them.

In regards to Drew's handwriting, it shows emotional volatility and insecurity as the pressure is inconsistent and fades to the right. It also shows immaturity and someone who is consumed by fear of loss and uncertainty. The handwriting looks similar to Casey Anthony, Diane Downs, Betty Broderick, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Jerry Sandusky's handwriting. They are not carbon copies, but the way Drew writes is similar to theirs as they are highly narcissistic and immature.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a handwriting expert and going by what I have read and comparing it to others.
 
  • #77
The first thing I thought was that the stalker of this girl needed to be caught and prosecuted. Let's see what the government will do with the info from anonymous.



BBM.

Hmmm. Looks like you were right!!!!: http://bc.ctvnews.ca/alleged-amanda-todd-tormenter-tracked-down-1.997244#ixzz29aiVUrK5

The problem with the anonymously posted claim concerning that guy is that it is an "unfounded allegation" according to the RCMP.

http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/amanda-todd-probe-delayed-by-online-rumours-scams-2

Sgt. Peter Thiessen says one of those rumours is an "unfounded allegation" by the internet activist group Anonymous that identifies a New Westminster man as the B.C. teen's tormentor.

CBC News has learned that some of the background information that was posted could not have applied to the man who was named, and that there are at least two other people online using the same name and similar email addresses.
 
  • #78
Can you cite the information?

Upbringing

Abusers are usually brought up in a dysfunctional family. The more abusive the adult, the more dysfunctional the family. Often, the father, if present, is violent and abusive. Perhaps the mother is co-dependent, a successful survival strategy when living with a violent partner; however, co-dependency also perpetuates the violence as it avoids dealing with the issue. Usually one or both parents are sociopathic or psychopathic. Occasionally, the child is over-protected, usually by the mother, and thus never allowed to develop as an individual human being. Sometimes, the child is ignored in favour of a sibling.

Before blaming the parents, the reason parents are dysfunctional is because they were brought up in dysfunctional families. The more dysfunctional the parent, the more dysfunctional were their parents ... and so on. Most people are never taught parenting skills. The sole teachers of parenting skills are thus ... our parents. It's not that we actively teach our kids to parent - kids learn by example. We grow up and repeat what they did to us. If all you have ever known is abuse, that is the only way you know how to behave. Human beings do not automatically know what is right and what is wrong; we have to learn it.

The child lives in a dysfunctional environment where abuse, violence or neglect are the norm; as the subject of abuse, the child cannot predict the behaviour of the responsible adults, and therefore has no control. The child learns, usually from an early age, that using bullying behaviours brings relief from anxiety. With so few people able to recognise bullying for what it is, and with strategies of denial, distraction and feigning victimhood perfected by about the age of five, the child has found a successful strategy for reducing anxiety, and thus surviving. Controlling other children through violent behaviour means brings a sense of power (control) to the child; he can't predict or control his parents but he can control other (smaller or less physically strong) children. His targets also become useful objects onto which he can freely displace his own aggression.


Abuse

I identify seven types of abuse:

1. Physical abuse, including assault and any deliberate act resulting in physical injuries, including beatings in the guise of corporal punishment but which are delivered with fists or to the child's head. The work of Lewis and Pincus in the States is relevant here - in many violent criminals, especially serial killers, they've found evidence of brain damage during childhood from parental beatings and accidents which have resulted in a smaller than normal cortex, with consequent lack of ability to control violent tendencies.

2. Sexual abuse, including incest, rape, buggery or any paedophile activity for the gratification of the abuser. The abuser usually has a sexually dysfunctional or unsatisfying relationship with their partner; sexual relations may be violent or inadequate or non-existent, and the child becomes a convenient substitute.

3. Tactile abuse, where there is little or no physical contact between parent(s) and the young child, and any contact tends to be violent, punitive, unjust and inappropriate. Physical contact seems to be especially important in the first five or six years. Some children enjoy a cuddle into their teens. Sadly, with abuse coming into the open, many parents (especially fathers) now fear that physical contact with children may be regarded and misconstrued as abuse (Note: with malicious accusation, it is invariably the accuser who is guilty of the abuse - see projection on the serial bully page). For further information on the importance of touch, see the work of the Touch Research Institute.

4. Existence abuse where the existence and rights of the child are ignored
neglect of needs:
physical (food, clothing, shelter)
intellectual (education)
psychological (self-development, self-confidence, self-esteem, maturity)
behavioural (company, friendship, interpersonal and communication skills, relationships)
ignoring the child's existence
rejection as an only child
ignoring one child and loving all others (rejection)
ignoring the child as a separate human being and using the child as an extension of one's own existence (as in MSBP, Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy - almost killing the child then rescuing them in a dramatic attention-seeking manner by arriving at hospital casualty at the last minute, then revelling in the adulation of the concerned mother who nearly lost her child)
abandonment

5. Religious abuse or cult abuse
The child is forced to accept the narrow, exclusive religious views of the parent or guardian to the exclusion of any other belief or possibility of any belief
Any behaviour by the child not in line with the parents' rigid religious zeal is met with punishment and abuse
The child is starved of development in interpersonal skills and relationships in the name of religion
The child is subjected to strange, unnatural and often perverse beliefs on sexual matters and sexual development in line with the religious belief
The child is discouraged or prevented from associating with any person not sharing the religious belief of the parent or guardian

6. Emotional abuse, including
refusal or unwillingness or inability to express love
deliberate withholding of love
conditional love (eg "I don't love you when you behave like that")
loving one child to the exclusion of all others
cocooning and smothering, denying the child the opportunity to develop as a separate individual
being forced into any conflict between parents
being used as a pawn by warring parents
being forced into a caring or caretaker role at an inappropriate age
witnessing alcohol or substance abuse, especially on a regular basis, perhaps being forced to participate
witnessing violence between parents or adults

7. Psychological abuse, including
constant criticism of a trivial and unjustified nature
unjustified blame, often for things which have no connection with the child (scapegoating)
refusal to value
refusal to acknowledge the child and their achievements
refusal to praise
inconsistency in judgement
unclear, shifting and inconsistent boundaries, sometimes no boundaries, at other times very tight boundaries
refusal to make eye contact with the child over a long period
refusal of parents to agree with or support each other when dealing with children
unpredictable behaviour on the part of the parents


Tim Field explores abuse including child abuse, physical and sexual abuse, emotional abuse, verbal abuse and the types, causes and consequences of abuse
http://www.bullyonline.org/related/abuse.htm

That refers to abusive personalties, which is a solo individualistic thing.

People who are bullies are not generally like that, it typically happens in a peer group situation where a mob mentality takes hold. Under those conditions people will do things they typically wouldn't do, because it is the mob identity that is responsible, not them. It seems OK behaviour to them because it is the same thing that everyone else is doing. Conventional social boundaries dissappear and are replaced by new boundaries established by the sentiment of the mob, which can be very sinister. Without the peer group those people don't do it. It is a completely different psychology and none of what you have in your post generally applies.
 
  • #79
I believe it wasn't a picture, it was a screem "flash" which the guy took a screen shot of.

It was a webcam. It was her camera, she would have had to set it up and purposely do it, so technically she was the one taking the pictures.

Whoever recieved it would have been recieving the images she took.

Since she was a minor, and you are not allowed to photograph a minor that way, both of them would have been breaking the law. It is not a consent thing, it is a prohibited act in Canada, no matter who is doing it. Criminality in that situation stems from production, possesion and distribution. From a legal point of view I think the person recieving it would probably be OK provided that they didn't retain and/or distribute the images. That obviously didn't happen.

IMO it is going to eventually turn out to be one of the local teenagers who recieved the images initially.
 
  • #80
No Sonya610 - I agree with those policies - I actually meant the hundreds of women in Calgary who have banded together to work getting bullies and offensive comments off of Facebook and other places - see news link in my above post.

I am a big proponent of Internet free speech and I hate to see more legislation (we have enough already).

Having said that Facebook has always struck me as the WORST idea ever for the users, if people didn't feel the need to post their real names and photos on Facebook none of this would have happened. Not the stalking, not the bullying, not the women tracking down posters who made rude comments, none of it.

Facebook will eventually go out of style (though the damage it has done to some won't ever go away) and as far as I am concerned good riddance.
 

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