CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #1

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  • #381
Wow! I'm really surprised that the police would release him if they had suspicions when they had him in custody. Sort of left the neighbourhood in peril. Unbelievable. I'm sure the police could come up with some sort of excuse until the DNA came back.

He was only released on Wed. and arrested on thursday so he was only
on the street about 24 hours.
I am sure the police had him under watch the full time he was out.
 
  • #382
He was only released on Wed. and arrested on thursday so he was only
on the street about 24 hours.
I am sure the police had him under watch the full time he was out.

.. Good to point that out, I didn't catch that. Even more weirder, why bother letting him out for 24 hours?????? I'm wondering if DLS lead police to some evidence? I still think that's weird.
 
  • #383
I doubt this perp had anything to do with Sonia or Shelly.

He was a homeless man who travelled by bicycle and the distance is considerable between Ancaster and Orangeville.

I also think that 2 seperate people are responsible for Sonia,s murder and Shelly's attack..

JMHO.

I understand what you're saying/thinking......but just for a moment please think about this:
We have Audrey Gleave murdered in Ancaster (Southern Ontario)
We have Sonia Varaschin murdered in Orangeville (Southern Ontario)
We have Shelley Loder viciously attacked in Mono, near Orangeville (Southern Ontario).

So, there are THREE people responsible in a relatively small area of Ontario in a short period of time? It's all got me wondering.........:waitasec:
 
  • #384
I understand what you're saying/thinking......but just for a moment please think about this:
We have Audrey Gleave murdered in Ancaster (Southern Ontario)
We have Sonia Varaschin murdered in Orangeville (Southern Ontario)
We have Shelley Loder viciously attacked in Mono, near Orangeville (Southern Ontario).

So, there are THREE people responsible in a relatively small area of Ontario in a short period of time? It's all got me wondering.........:waitasec:


It may be a small area but there are over 6,000,000 people in that area.
 
  • #385
It may be a small area but there are over 6,000,000 people in that area.

True - but with millions of people I don't recall such vicious murders in this area during such a short period of time. From August - December, 2010. Over a span of many years, yes. But during four months' time? I'm still feeling that since Audrey's killer was not involved in the Orangeville attacks (as implied by police) the Orangeville ones are somehow related. Perhaps Sonia's killer was random and Shelley's attacker was someone known to her and the attack was a convenient copy-cat attack.

Did that make any sense?
 
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He was only released on Wed. and arrested on thursday so he was only
on the street about 24 hours.
I am sure the police had him under watch the full time he was out.

Was this info revealed in the presser? Hamilton TV noon news is reporting that he was released last week. This report also said police aren't saying much about this arrest.

I still don't understand why he was out of jail???

Was the presser televised or is it online anywhere?
 
  • #388
Was this info revealed in the presser? Hamilton TV noon news is reporting that he was released last week. This report also said police aren't saying much about this arrest.

I still don't understand why he was out of jail???

Was the presser televised or is it online anywhere?

If I recall correctly, DLS' release was received with "no comment" at the press conference.

Oh, and the press conference was on CHCH TV of Hamilton.
 
  • #389
Where's the presser info, where are the headlines, why isn't the news covering this, holy moly, this is major???
 
  • #390
Where's the presser info, where are the headlines, why isn't the news covering this, holy moly???

It was on for mere seconds. If you blinked, you missed it. Detective Hrab was very curt, not saying much at all. The only channel I could find it on was CHCH-TV. Nothing on CP24. Nothing on CBC. A brief mention on the radio.
 
  • #391
Was this info revealed in the presser? Hamilton TV noon news is reporting that he was released last week. This report also said police aren't saying much about this arrest.

I still don't understand why he was out of jail???

Was the presser televised or is it online anywhere?


According to this article in the Toronto Star he was released Wed, & arrested Thurs.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/936838--man-arrested-in-elderly-woman-s-stabbing-death



Published On Fri Feb 11 2011Email Print Share10Rss Article

Nicole O’Reilly
Hamilton Spectator
Hamilton police have made an arrest in the six-week-old slaying of 73-year-old Audrey Gleave, whose death homicide detectives described as the most vicious in a decade.

David Laurie Scott, 50, is facing a charge of first-degree murder.

He was arrested without incident near Colborne Street in Brantford just after 4 p.m. Thursday, said Hamilton Staff Sergeant Steve Hrab.

The charge of first-degree murder can be laid when police believe the murder was planned or if it includes sexual assault.

Hrab said there was a sexual component to the crime.

Gleave’s viciously attacked and stabbed body was found in the garage of her Indian Trail home around 11 a.m. Thursday, Dec. 30. Her two big German shepherds – Togi and Schatzen – were in the house.

Scott had just been released from a Brantford jail on Wednesday after serving a short sentence for possessing a concealed knife and breaching his probation. He had been arrested on that charge Dec. 29, one day before Gleave’s body was discovered.
 
  • #392
Where's the presser info, where are the headlines, why isn't the news covering this, holy moly, this is major???

I think, in part, it is being eclipsed by events in Egypt today. Noon news is primarily focused on that unfolding story.

Guess there's not much for media to report, tho, if LE released little info other than to announce the arrest.
 
  • #393
I just tried to find the press conference online but I wasn't successful.:maddening:
 
  • #394
When asked why it took six weeks to make the arrest, he said, “It’s one thing to have a high-priority suspect, it’s another thing to be able to satisfy the legal requirements we’re guided by.”



Scott was scheduled to appear in Hamilton court Friday morning.
 
  • #395
So glad to hear that an arrest has been made in this case and that we don't have another unsolved vicious murder in Southern Ontario.

We all suspected this guy right from the beginning and after weeks had gone by with no arrest I know I was starting to wonder how it was possible that it was not him?

He was mentally unstable and was walking around with a big knife. AG was murdered in such a way that only a mentally unstable person or a close and personal perpetrator in a rage killing would make sense. If anyone was lacking in close and personal relationships it was AG.

I had no idea that forensics in such a high profile case still take this long to come back in this area. We are really lacking in labs here. That needs to change.

RIP Audrey. :rose:

Hopefully justice for you will be swift.
 
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Latest update from the Brantford paper


http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2974396

Man charged in Audrey Gleave murder
David Laurie Scott, 50, in court today
By Susan Gamble
Updated 1 hour ago


HAMILTON - David Laurie Scott, 50, was barely out of Brantford jail when he was arrested Thursday afternoon for the murder of retired schoolteacher Audrey Gleave.

Scott was picked up without incident at a Brantford laundromat and arrested by the Hamilton Police Service. He'll appear in a Hamilton court today, Friday, to be charged with first degree murder.

Scott had been in jail for more than 40 days on a weapons charge after he was found carrying a large knife during a visit to his own bank in the city. He was released Wednesday morning.

Scott who is known in Brantford as a homeless man suffering from schizophrenia -- was arrested before Gleave's body was found.

He wasn't named as a suspect but the abandoned barn on Lynden Road where he had been living was meticulously searched by Hamilton Police. The barn was a few kilometres away from Gleave's Indian Trail home where she lived alone.

The 73-year-old woman taught school in Hamilton and golfed in Brantford. She lived quietly with her dogs in Lynden.

Her stabbed and sexually assaulted body was discovered on Dec. 30 by a young man who did chores around her home.

Police aren't commenting on what evidence they have in the case or whether they've established any kind of motive in the case.
 
  • #399
Hamilton Police make an arrest in the Audrey Gleave Murder Case

On February 10, 2011, members of the Hamilton Police Service arrested David Laurie Scott, 50 years, NFA, for the murder of Audrey Gleave.

He was arrested in Brantford without incident.

Mr. Scott will be charged with 1st degree murder and make his first appearance in Hamilton Court on February 11, 2011.


http://hamiltonpolice.on.ca/Navantis.CMS.HPS/templates/generic5b.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID={976ACBAF-7114-4949-8308-235688019AC1}&NRORIGINALURL=%2FHPS%2FNews%2Fgleave.htm&NRCACHEHINT=Guest
 
  • #400
I just cannot understand how they wouldn't have had his DNA evidence at the crime scene, if it was as vicious and horrendous as LE indicated.

I wonder if releasing him, only to re-arrest him 1 day later, was something of a legal technicality or something like that?

Does anyone know?
 
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