CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #10

[FromGermany1]

This is the time of the year when we soon turn the clocks back and it’s very dark that I think even more of AG. And Shelley, too.
Was Audrey stalked, chosen? Or was this random bad luck? I feel that Audrey knew her killer and let him into the garage. Was he a long lost son of about age 18 - 20 something? Young and close. Was her lower body defiled as a way of saying « why was I born »?

I like your direction of thoughts, but Audrey would have been in her early 50s then, when she had a child. Although the supplement of her LW re possible minor heirs is so very incomprehensible, if there is not a young person somewhere, to which Audrey felt committed.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Math has never been my strong suit!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I like your direction of thoughts, but Audrey would have been in her early 50s then, when she had a child. Although the supplement of her LW re possible minor heirs is so very incomprehensible, if there is not a young person somewhere, to which Audrey felt committed.

I meant whatever age a male child would have been during the murder if AG had a child when she was a teen.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Did AG put anything in her will regarding possible children? I thought not, but my memory is poor.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I like your direction of thoughts, but Audrey would have been in her early 50s then, when she had a child. Although the supplement of her LW re possible minor heirs is so very incomprehensible, if there is not a young person somewhere, to which Audrey felt committed.

Even if a possible child was 50 when she was murdered, it’s not out of the question that a 50 year old could have done this to her. A 50 year old male can be very strong. Especially when enraged or when out on a mission of violence. JMO

 

[Gina20]

Even if a possible child was 50 when she was murdered, it’s not out of the question that a 50 year old could have done this to her. A 50 year old male can be very strong. Especially when enraged or when out on a mission of violence. JMO

Case in point: serial murderer Bruce McArthur, age 66 at the time of his arrest in January 2018. The known victims of McArthur died at his hands from 2010 to 2017. McArthur was born in 1951. IOW, McArthur's career as a serial killer is thought to have begun in his late 50s and continued until his mid-60s.

McArthur's mother raised foster children along with her own children in the family home, six to 10 at a time.

Would a child sent to a foster home like the McArthurs' home have underlying resentments strong enough to seek out and murder his birth mother?

 

[Gina20]

Case in point: serial murderer Bruce McArthur, age 66 at the time of his arrest in January 2018. The known victims of McArthur died at his hands from 2010 to 2017. McArthur was born in 1951. IOW, McArthur's career as a serial killer is thought to have begun in his late 50s and continued until his mid-60s.

McArthur's mother raised foster children along with her own children in the family home, six to 10 at a time.

Would a child sent to a foster home like the McArthurs' home have underlying resentments strong enough to seek out and murder his birth mother?

Even as a middle-aged man who looked portly and worked as a mall Santa, McArthur was described as fit enough to jog 20 feet before attacking a victim. He must have maintained his strength through his other work as a landscaper. The victim survived. Here is an interview:

First survivor of Toronto serial killer Bruce McArthur speaks out

Mark Henderson, 56, was attacked by McArthur just after noon on October 31, 2001, and is McArthur's first known survivor.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Gina20]

Even as a middle-aged man who looked portly and worked as a mall Santa, McArthur was described as fit enough to jog 20 feet before attacking a victim. He must have maintained his strength through his other work as a landscaper. The victim survived. Here is an interview:

First survivor of Toronto serial killer Bruce McArthur speaks out

Mark Henderson, 56, was attacked by McArthur just after noon on October 31, 2001, and is McArthur's first known survivor.

www.dailymail.co.uk

FWIW, the victim was studying to become a registered nurse.

 

[FromGermany1]

Even if a possible child was 50 when she was murdered, it’s not out of the question that a 50 year old could have done this to her. A 50 year old male can be very strong. Especially when enraged or when out on a mission of violence. JMO

Of course, that would be possible.
I even sometimes thought of the woman, who in her teenage years had a verbal fight with her teacher AG because of inadequate behaviour (re boys) on the school grounds. When she with nasty words threatened AG, the girl had to leave school at the end. If this person failed during her life afterwards, she might have always chalked it up to AG and this incident. And when she came into the years of age, when things from the past begin to finally affect the mental health, she could have thought of revenge.
The only thing that speaks against it, that she was the perp (or a man she had sent), is the fact, that probably there was no B&E in Audrey's home.

 

[FromGermany1]

FWIW, the victim was studying to become a registered nurse.

Like Shelley's husband in Mono, afaik .....

 

[FromGermany1]

Did AG put anything in her will regarding possible children? I thought not, but my memory is poor.

IF (??) I find it, I will post it. The text included something like: The executor should care financially for a possible child (not of legal age), if there would be one. It was a predeterminded formular, filled in with appropriate crosses or answers. I am still seeing it.

 

[FromGermany1]

Math has never been my strong suit!

You don't think, Math was MY strong suit?!?!!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

You don't think, Math was MY strong suit?!?!!

Thanks, I needed that today!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

IF (??) I find it, I will post it. The text included something like: The executor should care financially for a possible child (not of legal age), if there would be one. It was a predeterminded formular, filled in with appropriate crosses or answers. I am still seeing it.

Who witnessed the will and where was it filed? At a lawyer’s office?

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Audrey has no one willing to speak up for her on the anniversary of her murder. The anniversary is coming up soon. WHY won't her coffee friends or LV or PK or someone ask the police to make an appeal/reminder? So frustrating!

 

[FromGermany1]

Who witnessed the will and where was it filed? At a lawyer’s office?

The LW was witnessed by 2 female acquaintances/friends. The pics with the signatures and personal details (address/profession) exists somewhere in the threads.

 

[FromGermany1]

 

[FromGermany1]

Idk, how to present better, because I did the saving not quite right. I hope, these screen shots will help enough. (Old grandma hasn't always the abilities to save the documents like she planned to do. I am not bright and skilled Audrey, unfortunately.)

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

You saved them better than I ever could. Thanks. ^^^^^

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

double post, sorry