CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #5

[dotr]

From above link..
"After Christmas, she felt under the weather. Monday morning, Dec. 27, Audrey emailed Phil and declared she would make her Wednesday coffee meeting come hell or high water. Lynne Vanstone brought her soup.

Monday afternoon she loaded Togi and Schatze into the Camaro and visited veterinarian Dudley Collins in Ancaster to pick up vitamins for the German shepherds. She let the dogs run on his property as usual. She gave him a hug when she left, as she often did.

Later that day, at about 6 p.m., she emailed a friend, Linda. She forwarded Linda the same music video she had sent Phil that morning.

Just after 2 a.m. Wednesday, Dec. 29, a big male chocolate Labrador living on a property across the road from Audrey's barked wildly, although that was not entirely unusual for the dog. Later that morning, Audrey did not make her regular coffee gathering.

Just after midnight on Thursday, Dec. 30, fog hung in the darkness over the snow-covered ground. Then it turned to freezing fog, which, as Audrey would have known better than most, happens when water droplets supercool and freeze on contact with a surface. Later that morning, it rained."

 

[Hazel]

One other thing that bothers me in JW's in-depth articles .. who provided JW the specific detail that AG was wearing her stretch or stretchy pants? IMO, most people would describe a visual of pants by colour or design, not texture or something that you "feel". It seemed like a strange detail to me when there is no mention of the visual aspect.

he,he, dotr beat me was about to post that same quote.
SB, is that what you were referring to?
When I read "she was always hitching up" I had a mental image of elasticized waist, maybe like the pants she is wearing in this picture:
http://beckettglaves.frontrunnerpro.com/runtime/8242/include/storage/8242/DeathRecordStub/619536/P1000814.JPG?imageId=14

You were questioning, who provided JW with that info? I guess it could have been pk, or any of her coffee buddies, or even lv, though I don't think she has done any interviews, or has she?

or were you asking about the description of the pants she was wearing when she was found?

 

[Sillybilly]

What I was getting at (which i obviously didn't make very clear ) is I can understand convo about AG's lifestyle in general including that detail about her hitching up her stretchy pants, but what I find highly unusual is that anyone (whether PK or otherwise) would describe the pants of a deceased person in that manner.

from:
http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/594717--audrey-s-story-continues

That's when he saw her, he said, on the garage floor, lying on her back.

Had Audrey slipped and fallen on some ice, he wondered? Up close, he saw that was not the case.

She wore her winter coat. Her comfortable stretch pants were ripped.

If i found a dead person, I can see me explaining that they had on, for example, a green coat, black pants, white sneakers ... I would only know by pulling on those pants that they were stretchy.

Dunno, maybe it's just me that finds it weird.

 

[colette]

It sounds like she wore that type of pants all the time. You can tell stretch pants by looking at them, without feeling them.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

:twocentserhaps PK had seen AG wearing those specific stretch pants before on numerous occasions and he simply recognised them. Just by sight alone.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Another senior is murdered

LINK - http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111228/111228_human_remains/20111228/?hub=CP24Home

What's wrong with this world?

 

[roseofsharon]

I would like to know whose pets are buried in the APC around AG's deceased dogs. Since AG visited the APC on a regular basis, did she befriend someone at the cemetery, i.e. other visitors, maintenance people, etc. Reports indicate the cemetery is very well maintained.

Since AG loved and was devoted to her pets, my hunch is that she visited APC around the time of her murder.

Did LE test the dirt in AG's tire treads for any soil samples that may have matched the soil in the cemetery parking lot for freshness.

RIP AG -- we're not giving up!!!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Posing as police officers

Sometimes I wonder if this is what happened to AG and also SV:

LINK - http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111230/111230_home_invasion/20111230/?hub=CP24Home

 

[dotr]

Some incidents in December from The Hamilton Police Blotter, this one caught my eye..


http://www.thespec.com/feature/article/647137--police-blotter
"Palmer and Guelph Line
Dec. 22: Police respond to reports of a man prowling in backyards and peeking into windows around 12:20 a.m. Witnesses believe the man to be in his forties, 6-foot-one, 220 pounds, wearing blue jeans, a grey sweater and grey hat. Police are investigating".

 

[dotr]

A list of mystery books...hmmm, golf clubs...
http://www.thespec.com/whatson/books/article/647680--canadian-mysteries-reviewed

 

[roseofsharon]

:fireworks2: HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Here we are, one year later and still silence from LE.:maddening:

I wish AG had someone who would fight for her justice - the way SV's parents are asking LE for justice for their daughter and (hopefully) the way SL's family is asking LE for info about her attack.

Wondering if PK is still here, perhaps just lurking. He'd be an advocate for AG; someone who'd try to keep 'pushing' LE to work on the case.

I'm getting more and more frustrated by the day........:twocents:

 

[roseofsharon]

I'm also curious to know if there were any "in memory of" in the Brantford or Hamilton newspapers for AG.

IMHO, if someone willed me half a million dollars, I would be sure to remember them, especially on the one-year anniversary of their untimely passing.

Did any one of the very close friends of AG remember her publicly in a newspaper?

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Quoted from roseofsharon:

IMHO, if someone willed me half a million dollars, I would be sure to remember them, especially on the one-year anniversary of their untimely passing.


Indeed! And I'd move hell and high water to urge LE to keep working on the case. Even without the money, for a close friend, I'd still move hell and high water for my deceased friend!

 

[flipflop]

Here we are, one year later and still silence from LE.:maddening:

I wish AG had someone who would fight for her justice - the way SV's parents are asking LE for justice for their daughter and (hopefully) the way SL's family is asking LE for info about her attack.

Wondering if PK is still here, perhaps just lurking. He'd be an advocate for AG; someone who'd try to keep 'pushing' LE to work on the case.

I'm getting more and more frustrated by the day........:twocents:

You can see if he has been by viewing his profile, yes he has been here.

 

[roseofsharon]

Quoted from roseofsharon:

IMHO, if someone willed me half a million dollars, I would be sure to remember them, especially on the one-year anniversary of their untimely passing.


Indeed! And I'd move hell and high water to urge LE to keep working on the case. Even without the money, for a close friend, I'd still move hell and high water for my deceased friend!

And perhaps part with just a little bit of that inheritance to set up a reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction of the person(s) responsible for the murder of AG. A three decades long -- good, loyal, kind, generous, friend!!!!

IMO

 

[Valleyboy]

Audrey Gleave murder remains mystery one year later

http://swo.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/...-murder-one-year-111230/20111230/?hub=SWOHome

The police have not gone public with any new leads in the recent months, but insist it is not a cold case.


Hamilton Police Det.-Sgt. Ian Matthews says the force was reviewing evidence as recently as this month with Ontario's Centre of Forensic Sciences (CFS).


"We have gone over many of the exhibits with them. Exhibits are still being tested by CFS and by other private agencies inside and outside Canada."


Police won't comment on the type of evidence being reviewed, but will confirm that the case has been labelled a priority.


While the motive remains a mystery, as do Gleave's movements in the days before her death, Matthews says it was not a random attack.


"The person who killed Audrey was a person who was known to her."


And while the case has not yet been solved, police say it has also not been forgotten.

 

[LilyMacBloom]

Went out to our bin and pulled out the Expositor. There was no mention of AG's passing one year ago.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Quoted from Valleyboy:

"The person who killed Audrey was a person who was known to her."


So now we're back to close and perhaps young!

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ETA: I'm wondering what "known to her" really means. In my opinion, 'known to anyone' would NOT include the following types of people:
- mail delivery person
- paper delivery person
- passersby who might wave at you
- one's grocery store clerk, any clerk in any store
- anyone who doesn't have your email address nor your phone number with regular contact on a continual basis
- anyone who didn't visit your home from time to time for personal/relaxing reasons
- anyone in whom you didn't confide personal details ( ie: the name Baryon, the one who was in your will, people who shared time with AG in the garage or in her home)

Can you guys think of other people who would NOT be considered "known to her"?

 

[roseofsharon]

Went out to our bin and pulled out the Expositor. There was no mention of AG's passing one year ago.

That is SO very sad, but those of us on WS remembering AG daily!

I'm stunned, yet not surprised, as I thought this would be the case.

Hmmmm???

imo