CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #7

[Pink Panther]

Stone, this is how it goes:

- LV has two brothers RV and JV
- RV has no children
- JV has two children, JV and LV, who would be a nephew and niece of AG's friend LV

Correct!

: )

JV's father is John. He is married to AV. This obituary confirms that JV and LV are their children:

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/th...ne-pawlowski-neziol&pid=132593937#fbLoggedOut

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Just to cover all of our bases, I've contacted CBC Ontario and CP24. Gave them all of the info we've (well, the good people who discovered it all last night ). I figure the more 'pressure' from media the better.

:twocents:

 

[roseofsharon]

There is something I don't understand.

When cases are unsolved, i.e. the attack on SL and there is a police artist's sketch, wouldn't this sketch be posted on the bulletin boards of every police station in Ontario?

It is hard to be believe that when JV was arrested in March 2013, and his picture was released, that LE didn't see the similarity and follow up OR ...
perhaps they have!!

Did the arrest of JV in Wellington, Florida ever get reported in any of the major newspapers in Canada?

Wouldn't all of LE in Canada been aware of a Canadian being arrested in the USA and the charges involved.

imo

 

[Woodland]

I don't think there is a guarantee that Canadian LE are/were aware of the arrest of JV. In a perfect world - sure, but like all people (as in posters here) a connection has to be made by someone.

I'm still chuckling that Pink Panther found the possible missing link between AG, SV and possibly SL and didn't seem to realize immediately the magnitude of that find. Definitely not undermining anyone - not PP nor any victim - but it was a gold nugget waiting to be noticed. So we noticed!

 

[Pink Panther]

I really hope that if they (LE) do look into this, that they look beyond the similarities of the composite...

There are many other connections here to Audrey's case. I'm not as familiar with SV and SL's cases but there seem to be some connections there as well. Relationships, locations, etc...

Did those of you who reported mention some of these???

 

[Chorley8]

Can someone sum up for the dense and distracted like myself what the new info is? Thanks.

 

[roseofsharon]

Can someone sum up for the dense and distracted like myself what the new info is? Thanks.

Chorley, I will put it in point form for easier understanding ...

- AG's friend LV has two brothers (JV and RV)

- brother JV has two grown children ... male JV and female LV

- the grown child male JV was arrested in March 2013, in Wellington, Florida for trying to entice, what he believed to be, a 15 year old boy into meeting him for sex, however, he was actually texting with an undercover LE official

- the mugshot of JV in Florida closely resembles the police sketch artist's composite drawing of the man believed to have brutally attacked SL from Mono

That's a nutshell version. :seeya:

imo

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I really hope that if they (LE) do look into this, that they look beyond the similarities of the composite...

There are many other connections here to Audrey's case. I'm not as familiar with SV and SL's cases but there seem to be some connections there as well. Relationships, locations, etc...

Did those of you who reported mention some of these???

Yes, I mentioned the entire shebang - artist's sketch similar to the one for SL; the unsolved SV murder case (close to Mono); the relationship of JV to LV. And the arrest in Florida.

They didn't respond much to my info on the phone......just 'I see', 'Oh yes'. 'Umm-Humm', but I could hear them taking notes and computer keys clicking.

They didn't brush me off; on the contrary, it was my feeling that they were grateful for some info. lease:

Now we.........lease:

 

[SideKick]

There is something I don't understand.

When cases are unsolved, i.e. the attack on SL and there is a police artist's sketch, wouldn't this sketch be posted on the bulletin boards of every police station in Ontario?

It is hard to be believe that when JV was arrested in March 2013, and his picture was released, that LE didn't see the similarity and follow up OR ...
perhaps they have!!

Did the arrest of JV in Wellington, Florida ever get reported in any of the major newspapers in Canada?

Wouldn't all of LE in Canada been aware of a Canadian being arrested in the USA and the charges involved.

imo

-- you would think ROS, seems so logical, cross reference. Esp with the sketch out there. Maybe they do know, but he was booked in March, 3 months ago, what would take so long to hook him up with a Canadian crime?

 

[Pink Panther]

-- you would think ROS, seems so logical, cross reference. Esp with the sketch out there. Maybe they do know, but he was booked in March, 3 months ago, what would take so long to hook him up with a Canadian crime?

It's actually not such a simple connection to make. I can say that it took me many many hours of googling (things that I couldn't post) until I "bumped" into the local Wellington article about JV's arrest; even then, I almost ignored it because it was in Florida and I initially assumed that it was a different person with the same name. It was only after digging into the FB page that I realized the connection to horses and Florida and the dates. The mug shot reminded me a lot of the composite but I was focused on AG and thought it was me "seeing" things. It wasn't until Sidekick posted them side-by-side that I thought, hey maybe I wasn't "seeing things"!

LOL!

I have no idea if there are any connections here at all but I really do hope so! (If there are none, there sure are a lot of strange parallels!)

For AG, SL and SV! Their attacker/killer(s) need to be found and their families and friends deserve some answers and closure!

 

[Pink Panther]

Does anyone know if it's possible to look up who owns a house? Is this information available to the public???

 

[Pink Panther]

I feel quite alone here tonight. I've been thinking...LV was AG's closest friend; she left her entire estate to her. LV had/has two siblings. Only one of those is in AG's will. (RV). JV (the one who was arrested in Florida) is the son of the V siblings who doesn't appear in the will. At all. The year that AG died, she didn't go over to LV's house for Christmas. By all accounts, she usually spent Christmas with LV and family. Do we know this to be true? Could there have been some sort of argument? Why didn't LV lament the fact that AG had been sick and couldn't participate in "usual" Christmas events two days earlier? She stated no such thing to the media. She didn't even mention Christmas! Nothing.

Very strange.

Just thinking.

moo

 

[MsSherlock]

Does anyone know if it's possible to look up who owns a house? Is this information available to the public???

I'm here Pink gotta addy? And yes..it's public info-just hard to get

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I feel quite alone here tonight. I've been thinking...LV was AG's closest friend; she left her entire estate to her. LV had/has two siblings. Only one of those is in AG's will. (RV). JV (the one who was arrested in Florida) is the son of the V siblings who doesn't appear in the will. At all. The year that AG died, she didn't go over to LV's house for Christmas. By all accounts, she usually spent Christmas with LV and family. Do we know this to be true? Could there have been some sort of argument? Why didn't LV lament the fact that AG had been sick and couldn't participate in "usual" Christmas events two days earlier? She stated no such thing to the media. She didn't even mention Christmas! Nothing.

Very strange.

Just thinking.

moo

Pink, I was thinking the same thing last night......about NO MENTION from LV about the Christmas dinner.

Way out on a limb here - did LV know that AG was already dead/going to be killed? I'm also feeling very alone with these thoughts, Pink. Did LV simply assume that all would be well when PK delivered the cake?

In my humble opinion, the entire rapid selling of the house is fishy. And disrespectful. And where on earth is the car?

Was LV trying to keep her name out of the media because she knew something was 'wrong' about JV?

Questions still......... :dunno:

 

[roseofsharon]

AG spent Boxing Day at LV's home, but was "feeling under the weather".

Here we have it, LV stating she, herself, delivered the soup!!! Finally, we know LV brought A some soup, but no mention of what kind of soup, i.e. canned/homemade, what type of container it was delivered in .... hmmm, still many many questions regarding this soup imo.


http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2011/01/04/its-all-so-horrifying

 

[roseofsharon]

Does anyone know if it's possible to look up who owns a house? Is this information available to the public???

You could try Canada 411 reverse address. Just type in the address and it will list everyone on the street and you would need to know the number of the house to see the name of the occupant, however, I don't know how often this information would be updated and sometimes the site doesn't cooperate.

I also think that people can pay to not have their name on such lists, as when the news first broke about AG, I did a reverse address for Indian Trail, however, AG's address was omitted from the list, but it had already been reported in the paper about how private A was, so this didn't surprise me.

imo

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

AG spent Boxing Day at LV's home, but was "feeling under the weather".

Here we have it, LV stating she, herself, delivered the soup!!! Finally, we know LV brought A some soup, but no mention of what kind of soup, i.e. canned/homemade, what type of container it was delivered in .... hmmm, still many many questions regarding this soup imo.


http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2011/01/04/its-all-so-horrifying

:tyou: roseofsharon.......you located THE SOUP!! :applause:

But.....that said......we ONLY have LV's word for it!! And with the cremation done so quickly I'm wondering if LE did a stomach contents test.

You know peeps, as much and as hard as we work on this case the more leary I'm feeling.

:dunno:

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Quoted from roseofsharon:

<<< I also think that people can pay to not have their name on such lists, as when the news first broke about AG, I did a reverse address for Indian Trail, however, AG's address was omitted from the list, but it had already been reported in the paper about how private A was, so this didn't surprise me. >>>



I had no idea one could do that but now it makes sense. For example, if a doctor has his medical practice attached to his home he'd be at risk for people seeking drugs.

Hmmmmmmm.........

 

[Pink Panther]

Does anyone know/remember where LV was living at the time?

 

[greenthumb]

Gleave lived for her two German Shepherds, her shopping trips to Costco (her favourite store) and summer drives in her racy Chevy Camaro, she added.

Just noticed for the first time that LV says AG lived for summer drives in her Camaro... does this mean that she did not drive the Camaro in winter?

Did she have another vehicle? or does this possibly mean she did drive the Camaro as necessary in the winter, but loved drives just for the sake of driving in the summer?

http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2011/01/04/its-all-so-horrifying