CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #8

[Woodland]

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2123220-audrey-s-case-gets-colder/

When AG took this picture of herself, I doubt very much she would have wanted this particular photo displayed at her memorial service :-

I do not mean to disrespect AG, but when she took this picture of herself, she was probably testing her new camera and did not intend for this photo to be seen by the Lynden community.

IMO, choosing this photo was meant to demean AG.

Was the Amazing Grace video with Andre Rieu and the Scottish Pipers sent to the F's across the street because their surname is of Scottish origin or did the killer also happen to know the neighbours across the street.


IMO

BBM

Very much agree roseofsharon. Something wrong with a few choices made by AG's 'friends', imo.

Regarding a previous post - I don't think anger at something AG did had anything to do with any of the choices made by the so-called friends - just plain old money. Who had it and who didn't. Then again, that could generate anger over time couldn't it? Have seen that within my own family. Pathetic.

 

[dotr]

Never paid close attention to that pic. before and yes, it is not a flattering or respectful pic. imo- ironic given Audrey's stringent concerns about photography, ie. the wedding shots.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Gee, where have I been? That pic of AG is less than flattering. Why on earth would 'her dear friends' choose that pic? Yes, to demean, to make AG look remote/chubby and the pic has a certain darkness to it. How horrible for "good friends". Is the 'darkness appearance' significant? A hint? A clue?

I've been pondering for many years now about AK standing beside her loving husband at the funeral.
- she has a sneaky smirk on her face as she seems to be looking at him while he's talking (makes me want to know what she's thinking):scared:

- and why doesn't AK speak a single word? Nerves? Did PK tell her to remain quiet? AK looks (to me) as though she's keeping a secret. AG attended their wedding so one would think BOTH people would say something kind about the 'dear friend'.

Totally odd.

:notgood: :silenced: :notgood:

Oh......and why are neither one shedding a tear? Or stammering from grief and from being terribly upset. (I'd be a complete mess......)

 

[roseofsharon]

About AG ...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...s-all-so-horrifying+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

When AG sent the Amazing Grace email to the F's, who was home, who opened the email and what time was the email opened. Did the F's respond to receiving the email???

Did the F's have company over the holidays on the evening of the 27th.

Did one of the F's check their email and then possibly, while conversing with their guests, say they received an email from the elderly lady living alone across the street.

This type of information would alert killer that AG was home on the night of Dec. 27. A quick check of AG's driveway would alert killer that there was probably no likelihood she was entertaining that evening.

Did someone known to AG tell the killer the lady across the street was reclusive living alone.

Wondering whom AG liked discussing cars with (per LV) ... must be someone else whom liked discussing racy cars imo?

Did one of the guests leave and then return knowing this information.

LE, please toss us a crumb.

IMO:moo:

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

ROS, if memory serves we were told that Mom F opened the e-mail at about 6.30 pm the day it was sent. Or perhaps the day after if was sent.

 

[roseofsharon]

On AG's Memorial ...

- the posting of a very unflattering picture

- a very unflattering story about a mailbox part caper

These are supposed to be friends :banghead:

IMO

 

[roseofsharon]

On AG's Will ...

"Gleave lived for her two German Shepherds", but makes no arrangements in her Will for her beloved pets.

Per the late Johnny Cochrane ... "If it doesn't fit"

LE, please dig deeper!!!!

IMO

 

[roseofsharon]

AG on being on time ...

"Stickler" ... I believe the cake arrived late :tantrum:

 

[roseofsharon]

How interesting, LE told LV that AG had sent an email to a friend on the night of Dec. 27th. Why did LE release this detail to LV. Isn't everyone a suspect until cleared?

I guess everything wasn't held that close to the vest!

IMO

http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2011/01/04/its-all-so-horrifying

 

[Chorley8]

On AG's Memorial ...

- the posting of a very unflattering picture

- a very unflattering story about a mailbox part caper

These are supposed to be friends :banghead:

IMO

As I mentioned previous thread missing part story matches Audrey missing part.

Someone ran interference part of the story.

Story strangely takes place at night it was her 'big night".

Elsewhere as well mentions night "that fateful night".

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

As I mentioned previous thread missing part story matches Audrey missing part.

Someone ran interference part of the story.

Story strangely takes place at night it was her 'big night".

Elsewhere as well mentions night "that fateful night".

Chorley8, kindly forgive me but I don't understand some of this (OR, my memory is shot :floorlaugh: ).

1. I thought the person who came here and gave "rumors" about the body parts taken was deemed by our Mods as hearsay, not from LE.

2. By the "big night" are you talking about PK and AG 'having a blast' stealing a mailbox part?

3. Who ran interference and about what?

4. "That fateful night" (I think!!) was part of the 'rumors' post which was removed.

If you have time, further explanation would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
NSU

 

[Sillybilly]

Chorley8, kindly forgive me but I don't understand some of this (OR, my memory is shot :floorlaugh: ).

1. I thought the person who came here and gave "rumors" about the body parts taken was deemed by our Mods as hearsay, not from LE.

<rsbm>

A mod can correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe as long as it is clearly specified that it is rumour, it is okay discuss to some degree as a possibility ... just not to be relied upon as given fact.

Having said that, I have heard that same RUMOUR from a different individual who lives in the area.

 

[roseofsharon]

As I mentioned previous thread missing part story matches Audrey missing part.

Someone ran interference part of the story.

Story strangely takes place at night it was her 'big night".

Elsewhere as well mentions night "that fateful night".

Chorley, if I understand you correctly, you are drawing the parallels?

- the missing mailbox part ........... the missing body part
Interference to distract store employee, so that AG could steal a part.

- the "big night" ........................ the "fateful night"
I wonder when LE determined the murder took place at night?

I'll add one more ..... the letters AG and the song Amazing Grace.

Interesting post Chorley!

IMO

 

[Salem]

This thread is closed for moderator review. Please do NOT start a new thread.

Once the case has been reviewed, the mods will determine how to proceed.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[Salem]

This thread has been cleaned up and is now open for posting again. In addition, the previously pulled threads are now back out for reading.

Please remember - do NOT speculate beyond information provided by MSM and LE. You can note what was said in the media and compare and contrast but do not bring innocent people into the discussion and do not make accusations.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[dotr]

This thread has been cleaned up and is now open for posting again. In addition, the previously pulled threads are now back out for reading.

Please remember - do NOT speculate beyond information provided by MSM and LE. You can note what was said in the media and compare and contrast but do not bring innocent people into the discussion and do not make accusations.

Thanks,

Salem

Thanks for going through all that extra trouble to get Audrey's thread up and running again!

 

[Salem]

Also, there is a Media/Timeline thread here for posting references: Canada - Audrey Gleave, Murdered, Ancaster, Ontario Dec. 2010 MEDIA/TIMELINES - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Salem

 

[Woodland]

Here is the Hamilton Police poster for Audrey from their website.

http://www.hamiltonpolice.on.ca/HPS/CrimeFiles/Help+Us+Solve+This+Crime/gleave.htm

Sent an e-mail to HPS asking for a public update on the third anniversary of AG's death - 30 Dec 2013 will soon be here. Hopefully they will respond.

 

[Canadian4]

Let hope that with the anniversary on their mind the killer trips up and somehow reveals himself/herself.

 

[LambChop]

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