Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #1

[JDG]

How do you know?

Many here speculated she was hurt in the garage, and perhaps this is an indication of that.

Her Lexus SUV was sitting outside, in front of the home, along with another older vehicle. They're just doing 'due diligence' and have stated they will be at the home for another few days.

 

[kiwi50]

Maybe things are starting to move along now the funeral is over.
Would be good to know if they arrived home together in same car, or was Barry already at home

 

[otto]

Well, as much as I distrust Fox News in general , I’d say that they are referencing sources better than CBC in this instance. So I will assume that there is a surveillance system for now.

I'm thinking that they had a security system, perhaps with motion detectors, but that doesn't mean they had cameras throughout their house. They were elderly, so unless someone convinced them to have cameras throughout their house, they were probably more comfortable living life outside cameras.

 

[Jasper52]

CP24 News is showing footage of Honey's SUV being towed away.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Investigators have found no security cameras inside or outside the home.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/barry-honey-sherman-funeral-1.4458576

They must have some kind of security as there was a rep there from a security compant according to a report given earlier. I don’t have the link. At the least motion detectors and door locks??

 

[otto]

If it’s true that they never locked their side door, I have to question their common sense. They could come home to someone in their house (ahem), find that they’ve been burglarized (as happened to me before I got smart in 1977), or leave themselves wide open for a home invasion (ahem). If true, what were they thinking?!!

They may well have had a security system, but without cameras. That's quite common.

 

[human]

Some people wear a light “jacket” in the house rather than run the furnace and heat the whole place.

Also, does “jacket” mean the same thing in Canada? In the UK a “jumper” is what we call a “sweater” in the U.S.

That house looks very difficult to heat with the high ceilings and skylights and sheer volume. Heating costs were not a problem for them but that does not mean the house was designed so that it was warm no matter how much heat you blasted at it.

 

[Jasper52]

The statement was that the camera in the pool area had been "disconnected". Maybe the reporter asked if there was surveillance footage, the source said no, and the reporter assumed that meant there was a camera and it was disconnected rather than non-existent.

Lol, read your own post above. There is contradicting reports about the security.

 

[Lilibet]

I'm thinking that they had a security system, perhaps with motion detectors, but that doesn't mean they had cameras throughout their house. They were elderly, so unless someone convinced them to have cameras throughout their house, they were probably more comfortable living life outside cameras.

I was figuring they at least had cameras at or near entrances, but not in every room. And hey, cut it out with the “elderly” stuff. I resemble that remark.

 

[human]

Some people wear a light “jacket” in the house rather than run the furnace and heat the whole place.

Also, does “jacket” mean the same thing in Canada? In the UK a “jumper” is what we call a “sweater” in the U.S.

That house looks very difficult to heat with the high ceilings and skylights and sheer volume. Heating costs were not a problem for them but that does not mean the house was designed so that it was warm no matter how much heat you blasted at it.

 

[otto]

"Toronto police say the couple died of strangulation, and investigators, including some from the force's homicide unit, are treating the case as "suspicious." Police have said they are not searching for any suspects in the case.

CBC News has learned that the Shermans were found near the pool in the basement of their home. Investigators have found no security cameras inside or outside the home.

In the days since, the Sherman family has blasted "rumours" circulated in the media about how the Shermans may have died, including the possibility of murder-suicide or a double suicide.

"We are shocked and think it's irresponsible that police sources have reportedly advised the media of a theory which neither their family, their friends nor their colleagues believe to be true," said the Shermans' children in a statement last weekend.

CBC News has not reported any unverified details of the investigation."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/barry-honey-sherman-funeral-1.4458576

 

[Snoop Sister]

I did have thoughts that something might have started in the garage area, when one of the original reports stated that HS had been moved. The jackets on them perhaps because they just arrived home?

 

[Lilibet]

They may well have had a security system, but without cameras. That's quite common.

But a security system of any kind is useless if you leave a door unlocked, right?

 

[Jasper52]

And the report that and ADT guy was there??

puzzling.

Exactly !!!

 

[human]

Did they have staff 24 hours a day?

 

[Grace.212]

Some people wear a light “jacket” in the house rather than run the furnace and heat the whole place.

Also, does “jacket” mean the same thing in Canada? In the UK a “jumper” is what we call a “sweater” in the U.S.

A "jacket" in Canada can be a men's suit jacket, or sometime a winter jacket as in ski jacket. Usually a women's suit jacket is referred to as a blazer.

 

[otto]

That house looks very difficult to heat with the high ceilings and skylights and sheer volume. Heating costs were not a problem for them but that does not mean the house was designed so that it was warm no matter how much heat you blasted at it.

There were four furnaces in the house so it was probably designed so they could keep some parts of the house warm all the time, and others only when occupied. I grew up in a house with two furnaces for that same reason.

 

[Grace.212]

Did they have staff 24 hours a day?

I read somewhere, they had a housekeeper during the day time. Not nights.

 

[JDG]

Some people wear a light “jacket” in the house rather than run the furnace and heat the whole place.

Also, does “jacket” mean the same thing in Canada? In the UK a “jumper” is what we call a “sweater” in the U.S.

Yes, a jacket is a jacket in Canada too. I happen to wear a cardigan most winter days, having had a British upbringing and it is because we prefer the house a bit cooler than most. In the UK it can be a 'jumper' or 'cardie' or 'cardigan'. lol

 

[Lilibet]

A "jacket" in Canada can be a men's suit jacket, or sometime a winter jacket as in ski jacket. Usually a women's suit jacket is referred to as a blazer.

Thanks. Things can get lost in translation, even in English.