Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #7

[ldlager]

Why are generics losing money? There are so many users of drugs all over the world.

And insurance companies insist on generics for reimbursement

Generic companies’ margins are being pressured:
- market saturation- US generic share of prescriptions are over 80 percent now. Canada is about 65 percent but much smaller size. So, limited room for growth unless they keep launching new products
- fewer brand name drugs coming off patent in recent years. So fewer new product opportunities for generic manufacturers
- increasing costs of raw materials
- some brand manufacturers have also moved into the generic space to protect their market share of products as they come off patent. Or they subsidize the price of the brand name drug To mitigate migration to the generic
- more generic manufacturer competition from offshore- India, China, etc.
- move of prov. governments to threaten to tender for the purchase of drugs. Generic companies agreed to lower prices instead of possibly losing the tender and being shut out of the market completely
- some generic Msgr have made heavy investments in the biosimilar market. These are essentially generic versions of high cost biological drugs. Biosimilars are extremely expensive to develop.
- FYI many large benefit plans, especially union groups and public sector plans do not mandate generic drugs, and still cover the brand drug if the plan member wants it instead of the generic

Hope this helps

 

[JDG]

I was reading an article the other day about Apotexs' newer problems, one of which is the cost to re-fit equipment.

Most of their drugs, sit in plastic drug bottles at the pharmacy or come in small boxes but now, many drugs need to come in blister packs, single dose or other methods other than a punched out pill.

The cost/ratio of re-fitting and appealing to different 'pharmacological zones' is a huge problem without Barry there to make the decisions. Of course the others can run the day to day business but who is going to take responsibility for such enormous expenditures when everything is up in the air??

I would imagine it will be a couple, at least, of years before the wills are sorted and there's a decision about selling or retaining the company within the Sherman family.

But ALL generic companies are facing more competition from off shore companies, governments are no longer able to pay the profits they used to pay etc, etc.

Also, many medicines are changing quite quickly at the moment. Stem cell therapies will be making many cancer drugs passé, possibly orthopaedic replacement surgery will become outdated too.

Its a very exciting time in some areas of medicine, if the antibiotics don't let us down, there is a lot of new 'stuff' coming down the pipe.

 

[JDG]

Why are generics losing money? There are so many users of drugs all over the world.

And insurance companies insist on generics for reimbursement

The profit margins are down, they're not losing money but they're having to 'share the pie' so to speak.

Supply and demand.

You are correct about the demand, drugs will always be needed but for all the reasons in the previous couple of posts, their profit margins are being cut, world wide.

As a Canadian, who has been paying wayyyy too much for our poor performing generic drugs, I am glad.

Many people do not realize that once the generics took over, the large companies stopped putting millions and millions into Research and Development because of what happened. Many drugs that could have saved lives
were NOT brought to market.

In Ontario and maybe all of Canada, the bioavailability in a generic drug is only 80% or so. If your body needs 100%, you are out of luck. How many died because their antibiotics didn't work?? Blood pressure meds didn't work?? etc. etc.

Anyway, huge questions to be answered by all of the pharmaceutical companies.

BTW, Apotex is not unionized as Sherman didn't like unions. I read some posts from employees on glass ceiling, very interesting. hmmm.

 

[JDG]

^^^ Apotex comments were on Glassdoor dot ca, not glass ceiling.

 

[miele.m]

The real question to me is why didn’t she advise them in advance that she wouldn’t be attending the meeting? Even if something comes up at the last minute, most people would I think send a text or email to say they won’t be able to attend the meeting. She evidently didn’t do that. I would really like to know if BS was at home when this meeting was supposed to take place. Also, I would like to know the visiting schedule for her personal trainer during that week.

What time was this BayCrest meeting Honey was supposed to attend?

I read somewhere recently that Barry would work 10am-8am daily.

We’re Barry and Honey home alone that last morning while she was supposed to be at this BayCrest meeting?
Did a huge fight ensue over this new home and therefore she couldn’t make the BayCrest meeting?

Barry said to someone just before he died that he wished he didn’t have to move from their Old Colony home but that his wife wanted to move so he had to move.
Could a fight have ensued that morning?
Then she missed her meeting at BayCrest ‘taking care of stuff’ (fighting with Barry)
Then they meet at the Architects office later that day where I’m sure construction costs were discussed during that meeting........ could the potential morning fight have ensued into a full battle at night when Barry arrived home later that night, where he just lost it and strangled her?
Could it be the new home was going to cost much more than the $7 million (just under) they were listing their home for? And Barry just couldn’t handle this?

Barry then would have spent the rest of the night and early morning hours setting the ‘stage’ that he was ‘finally’ murdered by a rival? (after 50 plus years in business)
Barry already knew that’s what people would believe if he set it up right.

There happens to be no video evidence from anyone on that street............ no dash cams?
No neighbouring house cameras?
No Sherman cameras?
What a coincidence ?

Covert tactics? If cops were using covert tactics I don’t think they would be advertising this in the media. I feel this is misinformation that the lawyer planted to the media. Why would he do this?

I suspect that huge donations were made by the Sherman’s to the Toronto Centre for Mental Health and addiction for $100 million and possibly a large donation made to the Toronto Police Dept to keep the truth away from the public to protect the Sherman legacy and family name.
There was no double murder to solve so there is no murderer on the lamb.
They already know it was Barry. And no one can be charged. So why ruin the family legacy?
When $100 million donation is getting put into the centre for mental health and addiction and possible the Toronto police department.
This would have been negotiated and facilitated by their lawyer. The kids know the truth. The public doesn’t need to know is their thinking.
And at least one organization is funded $100 million out of that deal.

It seems to me that even in death Barry was making deals and running the show and having the last say.

The cops looking into the 50 Old Colony sewers?
Sure they were...... looking for any of his missing devices where he may have done google searches on how to set the stage for murder suicide and then destroyed and tossed the device away once he got his information. Cops were probably looking for his devices (and possibly her devices) and not any other suspects.
He could have disposed of his devices but cops don’t know where they are.

I hate to say it, but this seems much more simple than what it looks like.
I think Barry outsmarted everyone here.
I do believe the kids know the truth (via the detectives they hired) as do the cops.
But they may feel there is nothing to gain for the public to know the truth.
Why taint and destroy their legacy?
So why not give an unprecedented amount of money to preserve it?
He was wheeling and dealing from his grave. He was playing the systems from his grave.

There is also a chance that Barry may have contacted Jack and gave him instructions on what to do with his business before he departed.
There are ways this can be done discreetly.

I was hoping to really find some suspects and motive here, but sadly I don’t think we will.
This is some kind of illusion, that I know for certain.

 

[miele.m]

1. No Shoe coverings during removal of first body.
2. Yes, Shoe coverings on during removal of second body.

Why? Mistake? Oversight?
Maybe means nothing other than botch up of a scene?

 

[JDG]

^^ just one question.

Why do they have to give money to CAMH? What has that got to do with the Sherman murders?

OK, two questions.

 

[miele.m]

 

[miele.m]

^^ just one question.

Why do they have to give money to CAMH? What has that got to do with the Sherman murders?

OK, two questions.

No they didn’t have to give the money, no one told them too.
But it’s a good way to protect your family name
in a case that doesn’t affect the public anyway, if it was a M-S.

Why the CAMH? Just something the kids may have chosen because they felt strongly about this particular cause (mental health) for whatever reason and/or may have simply recognized the their father had addictive behaviours and mental health issues of his own.
You don’t do some of what he did repeatedly over 50 years unless you are disturbed to a degree.
Perhaps a psychiatrist or psychologist could
weight in here?

 

[ldlager]

1. No Shoe coverings during removal of first body.
2. Yes, Shoe coverings on during removal of second body.

Why? Mistake? Oversight?
Maybe means nothing other than botch up of a scene?

i believe the shoe covering discrepancy is a legitimate question to raise.

 

[WINDSOR]

First we do not know it was the Sherman's who gave the $100 million to CAMH. What 'truth' would Barry want to keep away from the public? That he killed his wife and himself? Why would he care if the public knew, he would be dead?

I am not familiar with too many cases where a man commits murder-suicide and tries to make it look like a double murder. The reverse is common.

If Barry did the murder-suicide out of anger and rage over having to move, it is not likely he quietly pre-planned the donations as well.

Barry was a strong individual, if he did not want to move, he would not bought the new building lot, hired an architect, been involved in the design, had his current house listed for sale. These things took many months of planning and thought. The extra $7 million he was spending on the new house was 'chump change' to a guy who was worth $4 Billion plus.

Implying Barry would donate $100 million to protect his name because he did not want to spend $7 million makes no sense to me.

 

[JDG]

^^^ agree totally

 

[JDG]

AND, its not M/S. Its a double murder.

 

[Hazel]

What time was this BayCrest meeting Honey was supposed to attend?

I read somewhere recently that Barry would work 10am-8am daily.

We’re Barry and Honey home alone that last morning while she was supposed to be at this BayCrest meeting?
Did a huge fight ensue over this new home and therefore she couldn’t make the BayCrest meeting?

Barry said to someone just before he died that he wished he didn’t have to move from their Old Colony home but that his wife wanted to move so he had to move.
Could a fight have ensued that morning?
Then she missed her meeting at BayCrest ‘taking care of stuff’ (fighting with Barry)
Then they meet at the Architects office later that day where I’m sure construction costs were discussed during that meeting........ could the potential morning fight have ensued into a full battle at night when Barry arrived home later that night, where he just lost it and strangled her?
Could it be the new home was going to cost much more than the $7 million (just under) they were listing their home for? And Barry just couldn’t handle this?

Barry then would have spent the rest of the night and early morning hours setting the ‘stage’ that he was ‘finally’ murdered by a rival? (after 50 plus years in business)
Barry already knew that’s what people would believe if he set it up right.

There happens to be no video evidence from anyone on that street............ no dash cams?
No neighbouring house cameras?
No Sherman cameras?
What a coincidence ?

Covert tactics? If cops were using covert tactics I don’t think they would be advertising this in the media. I feel this is misinformation that the lawyer planted to the media. Why would he do this?

I suspect that huge donations were made by the Sherman’s to the Toronto Centre for Mental Health and addiction for $100 million and possibly a large donation made to the Toronto Police Dept to keep the truth away from the public to protect the Sherman legacy and family name.
There was no double murder to solve so there is no murderer on the lamb.
They already know it was Barry. And no one can be charged. So why ruin the family legacy?
When $100 million donation is getting put into the centre for mental health and addiction and possible the Toronto police department.
This would have been negotiated and facilitated by their lawyer. The kids know the truth. The public doesn’t need to know is their thinking.
And at least one organization is funded $100 million out of that deal.

It seems to me that even in death Barry was making deals and running the show and having the last say.

The cops looking into the 50 Old Colony sewers?
Sure they were...... looking for any of his missing devices where he may have done google searches on how to set the stage for murder suicide and then destroyed and tossed the device away once he got his information. Cops were probably looking for his devices (and possibly her devices) and not any other suspects.
He could have disposed of his devices but cops don’t know where they are.

I hate to say it, but this seems much more simple than what it looks like.
I think Barry outsmarted everyone here.
I do believe the kids know the truth (via the detectives they hired) as do the cops.
But they may feel there is nothing to gain for the public to know the truth.
Why taint and destroy their legacy?
So why not give an unprecedented amount of money to preserve it?
He was wheeling and dealing from his grave. He was playing the systems from his grave.

There is also a chance that Barry may have contacted Jack and gave him instructions on what to do with his business before he departed.
There are ways this can be done discreetly.

I was hoping to really find some suspects and motive here, but sadly I don’t think we will.
This is some kind of illusion, that I know for certain.

:goodpost: miele.m good thinking!

Just a few observations:

"I read somewhere recently that Barry would work 10am-8am daily."
I believe he worked those long hours before he semi-retired 4 or 5 years ago.


"We’re Barry and Honey home alone that last morning while she was supposed to be at this BayCrest meeting?
Did a huge fight ensue over this new home and therefore she couldn’t make the BayCrest meeting?"

I think that is a possibility, after all, no one at Apotex seemed to have worried when he didn't show up to work all day Thursday and Friday. We haven't heard of any attempts to contact either of them. Not from work nor family. So I think it's possible Barry was spending more time at home. JMO


"Then they meet at the Architects office later that day where I’m sure construction costs were discussed during that meeting........ could the potential morning fight have ensued into a full battle at night when Barry arrived home later that night, where he just lost it and strangled her?"

They met with the Architect at Apotex, not at the Architect's office (this info from the Fifth Estate's episode)
The meeting with the Architect took place WEDNESDAY, in the evening.

The BayCrest meeting that Honey missed took place the previous day, TUESDAY. I don't think we have heard if the meeting was in the morning or afternoon.

So they could have had a big discussion about the house design changes on that Tuesday, and agreed on something. Then maybe the next day, at the meeting with the Architect BS was surprised with some decision she had made that he didn't agree to. BS didn't say anything in front of the Architect, but was really mad when he got home. (just pure speculation)



"There happens to be no video evidence from anyone on that street............ no dash cams?
No neighbouring house cameras?
No Sherman cameras?
What a coincidence ?"
The TPS said they have like 2000 hours of videotape.
Are you sure there is no evidence of anyone on those tapes?
That would be shocking to say the least! :jawdrop:
I was hoping LE would soon post footage from some video, asking people if they recognize the perp(s).
IF in fact there is no video evidence, then I agree, that would be way too coincidental.

 

[human]

Generic companies’ margins are being pressured:
- market saturation- US generic share of prescriptions are over 80 percent now. Canada is about 65 percent but much smaller size. So, limited room for growth unless they keep launching new products
- fewer brand name drugs coming off patent in recent years. So fewer new product opportunities for generic manufacturers
- increasing costs of raw materials
- some brand manufacturers have also moved into the generic space to protect their market share of products as they come off patent. Or they subsidize the price of the brand name drug To mitigate migration to the generic
- more generic manufacturer competition from offshore- India, China, etc.
- move of prov. governments to threaten to tender for the purchase of drugs. Generic companies agreed to lower prices instead of possibly losing the tender and being shut out of the market completely
- some generic Msgr have made heavy investments in the biosimilar market. These are essentially generic versions of high cost biological drugs. Biosimilars are extremely expensive to develop.
- FYI many large benefit plans, especially union groups and public sector plans do not mandate generic drugs, and still cover the brand drug if the plan member wants it instead of the generic

Hope this helps

In the US, I think that union and public service do demand generics, For me, it has been at least 20 years or maybe more

 

[Hazel]

First we do not know it was the Sherman's who gave the $100 million to CAMH. What 'truth' would Barry want to keep away from the public? That he killed his wife and himself? Why would he care if the public knew, he would be dead?


Implying Barry would donate $100 million to protect his name because he did not want to spend $7 million makes no sense to me.

(respectfully snipped by me)

I personally never thought it was the Shermans who made the $100 million donation, but now reading miele's post, it kind of makes sense that they could have been adviced to do so, for the reasons she stated above. Nowhere in her post she is implying that Barry himself donated, more like the fam. did it in his name.

In response to your questions:
"What 'truth' would Barry want to keep away from the public? That he killed his wife and himself? Why would he care if the public knew, he would be dead?"

(hypothetically speaking, because we just don't know what transpired, we haven't seen any evidence of anything yet)
You don't think that someone in his position, who acted impulsively, irrationally in a moment of rage, would not realize how his actions will impact the whole family, his legacy, etc? In the aftermath, he would be going, oh my God, what have I done, and seeing no way out, decided to off himself, staging the scene as a DM to keep his good image? Do you really think that he would not care at all, because he would be dead?

Sadly, we read in the news so many cases of domestic violence that end in MS, happens way too often.


Regarding your statement:
"I am not familiar with too many cases where a man commits murder-suicide and tries to make it look like a double murder. The reverse is common."

I'm sorry but what you are saying doesn't make any sense. The reverse would be:
A man commits a double murder, him being the second victim, and makes it look like murder-suicide.
Why would a man that commits double murder, killing himself in the process, stage the scene and try for it to look like murder-suicide?

 

[Kerry Winter]

Miele.m has it right! Read comments from yesterday. Finally, somebody sees the staged double suicide as a reaction to my cousin killing Honey! Panic set in after he killed her....thinks quick.....hang her...commits suicide. Problem: she was already killed somewhere else in the house before he wrapped the belt around the pool railing. Lots hasn’t been reported.
Did l mention the rumoured audio tape of Barry killing her.
Yes....the building of Honey’s custom dream home put him over the edge!

 

[miele.m]

(respectfully snipped by me)

I personally never thought it was the Shermans who made the $100 million donation, but now reading miele's post, it kind of makes sense that they could have been adviced to do so, for the reasons she stated above. Nowhere in her post she is implying that Barry himself donated, more like the fam. did it in his name.

In response to your questions:
"What 'truth' would Barry want to keep away from the public? That he killed his wife and himself? Why would he care if the public knew, he would be dead?"

(hypothetically speaking, because we just don't know what transpired, we haven't seen any evidence of anything yet)
You don't think that someone in his position, who acted impulsively, irrationally in a moment of rage, would not realize how his actions will impact the whole family, his legacy, etc? In the aftermath, he would be going, oh my God, what have I done, and seeing no way out, decided to off himself, staging the scene as a DM to keep his good image? Do you really think that he would not care at all, because he would be dead?

Sadly, we read in the news so many cases of domestic violence that end in MS, happens way too often.


Regarding your statement:
"I am not familiar with too many cases where a man commits murder-suicide and tries to make it look like a double murder. The reverse is common."

I'm sorry but what you are saying doesn't make any sense. The reverse would be:
A man commits a double murder, him being the second victim, and makes it look like murder-suicide.
Why would a man that commits double murder, killing himself in the process, stage the scene and try for it to look like murder-suicide?

(respectfully snipped by me)

I personally never thought it was the Shermans who made the $100 million donation, but now reading miele's post, it kind of makes sense that they could have been adviced to do so, for the reasons she stated above. Nowhere in her post she is implying that Barry himself donated, more like the fam. did it in his name.

In response to your questions:
"What 'truth' would Barry want to keep away from the public? That he killed his wife and himself? Why would he care if the public knew, he would be dead?"

(hypothetically speaking, because we just don't know what transpired, we haven't seen any evidence of anything yet)
You don't think that someone in his position, who acted impulsively, irrationally in a moment of rage, would not realize how his actions will impact the whole family, his legacy, etc? In the aftermath, he would be going, oh my God, what have I done, and seeing no way out, decided to off himself, staging the scene as a DM to keep his good image? Do you really think that he would not care at all, because he would be dead?

Sadly, we read in the news so many cases of domestic violence that end in MS, happens way too often.



Hi everyone
Sorry been off the grid today and am just chiming in now.
Regarding my last post, I made a typing error as I was tired while I was typing on my device yesterday.
I want to be clear here:
I believe he killed her in an unplanned fit of rage over the expensive new home build.
He didn’t plan it, he just lost it especially after meeting with the architect and the design and construction costs were ludicrous in his mind . He didn’t want to move. He didn’t like change. He didn’t like to spend money. ‘He wished he could stay there’

After he lost it, (choking her in an unplanned assault) he spent the night setting up the targeted double murder and even possibly wrapping up his final business affairs. (Aka instructions to good ole Jack)

His body was in a different stage of death than hers, because he died much later than she did.
Not 2 hours, were talking 7/8 hours later.
No one will disclose how many hours apart they died anymore, why?

Once he killed her he knew his time was basically up.
But he was going out his way. How he said. The stage he set. He was reigning control even after this as well —i believe with how the company is currently being dismantled. It’s as if he doesn’t want anyone else to have it. If so this had to have been planned with Jack at some point during that night.

He spent the night planning on how to make it look like a double murder, not a murder suicide. (I was tired typed it wrong yesterday) his devices were the ones cops were looking for in those sewers and in other parts of the house. He did google searches using 3G network not his own wireless network, blocked his cookies. Got his plan in order He then erased his phone by resetting it.
Then he destroyed the device and tossed it into bits all over the place.
Sewers, toilet, planters, dirt, etc. I’m not sure if these items could be melted down at his home?
Possibly her devices as well may have been erased and decimated in similar fashion.

This was a man who paid great attention to detail and was clever and cunning in all his dealings for over 50 years.
If he was going, he would decide when and how in intricate detail. He was not going to destroy his own legacy and 50 years of hard work.
He also wasn’t going to let anyone else have his company. He would dismantle it before anyone would possibly acquire and enjoy the fruits of his labour.

He did a snake ambush job on how he took the company from the 4 Winters Boys.
It was cold, calculating, exploitive, strategic, premeditated and planned. As were all his other future business dealings over 50 years.
The way the company his company is going now I’m willing to bet was by his own orders and directions given the night just before he departed.

So to be clear
I meant to say
He staged a targeted double murder.
When in fact it was a murder suicide.

There is no suspects to apprehend.
There is no threat to the public.
There is no point in tarnishing the family name.
The public doesn’t need to know.
The detectives found out the truth and told the family. The cops knew all along.
The lawyer spins and wheels and deals for his clients.
The family, to make sure it doesn’t come out in the public probably donated $100 million anonymously to a very good cause, and even a good chance a large donation to the Toronto Police Department who could use the resources to help solve real unsolved cases.

I wish there were other suspects and other motives. Because it is a fascinating story to try to solve.
But it’s way more simple than it looks.
It’s just a Domestic dispute that went really bad.
He didn’t want to move! He wished he could stay there! And he didn’t want to spend millions more money. He didn’t want to have to fight contractors again to recoup cost of construction for all the errors they would make. He had other more important things to litigate not contractors.
He had to figure out the pot pill and how to make sure health Canada did as he wanted.

It’s also an illusion, we are blinded by the person he was put on a pedestal by society to be, not who he really was as a person.
Few people can see what he really was as a person.
The rest want to believe the illusion.

This guy abandoned 4 orphaned little boys all under the age of 7 whose parents both died in 17 days. Their parents were his aunt and uncle.
His uncle took him under his wing as his nephew and taught him the business.
He then snaked the only promising livelihood these little cousins would have had after losing both parents in 17 days and all being under 7 years old. He was out trying to make a deal with the mother of the boys while she on her deathbed in hospital.
Right after they died he was at the trust company trying to make a deal.
What does that tell you about him?
The deal he got 2 years later——he then later reneged on his promise. He lied. Zero intention of having his 4 cousins in the business.

This is not a a saint. This is not Martyr. This is not a generous person. This is a man out to control everyone and everything around him to make money and more money and gain market share and to win at all costs.

This is the same person who created formulations
we are putting into our bodies. What makes you think he cared about your health?

 

[miele.m]

(respectfully snipped by me)

I personally never thought it was the Shermans who made the $100 million donation, but now reading miele's post, it kind of makes sense that they could have been adviced to do so, for the reasons she stated above. Nowhere in her post she is implying that Barry himself donated, more like the fam. did it in his name.

In response to your questions:
"What 'truth' would Barry want to keep away from the public? That he killed his wife and himself? Why would he care if the public knew, he would be dead?"

(hypothetically speaking, because we just don't know what transpired, we haven't seen any evidence of anything yet)
You don't think that someone in his position, who acted impulsively, irrationally in a moment of rage, would not realize how his actions will impact the whole family, his legacy, etc? In the aftermath, he would be going, oh my God, what have I done, and seeing no way out, decided to off himself, staging the scene as a DM to keep his good image? Do you really think that he would not care at all, because he would be dead?

Sadly, we read in the news so many cases of domestic violence that end in MS, happens way too often.



Hi everyone
Sorry been off the grid today and am just chiming in now.
Regarding my last post, I made a typing error as I was tired while I was typing on my device yesterday.
I want to be clear here:
I believe he killed her in an unplanned fit of rage over the expensive new home build.
He didn’t plan it, he just lost it especially after meeting with the architect and the design and construction costs were ludicrous in his mind . He didn’t want to move. He didn’t like change. He didn’t like to spend money. ‘He wished he could stay there’

After he lost it, (choking her in an unplanned assault) he spent the night setting up the targeted double murder and even possibly wrapping up his final business affairs. (Aka instructions to good ole Jack)

His body was in a different stage of death than hers, because he died much later than she did.
Not 2 hours, were talking 7/8 hours later.
No one will disclose how many hours apart they died anymore, why?

Once he killed her he knew his time was basically up.
But he was going out his way. How he said. The stage he set. He was reigning control even after this as well —i believe with how the company is currently being dismantled. It’s as if he doesn’t want anyone else to have it. If so this had to have been planned with Jack at some point during that night.

He spent the night planning on how to make it look like a double murder, not a murder suicide. (I was tired typed it wrong yesterday) his devices were the ones cops were looking for in those sewers and in other parts of the house. He did google searches using 3G network not his own wireless network, blocked his cookies. Got his plan in order He then erased his phone by resetting it.
Then he destroyed the device and tossed it into bits all over the place.
Sewers, toilet, planters, dirt, etc. I’m not sure if these items could be melted down at his home?
Possibly her devices as well may have been erased and decimated in similar fashion.

This was a man who paid great attention to detail and was clever and cunning in all his dealings for over 50 years.
If he was going, he would decide when and how in intricate detail. He was not going to destroy his own legacy and 50 years of hard work.
He also wasn’t going to let anyone else have his company. He would dismantle it before anyone would possibly acquire and enjoy the fruits of his labour.

He did a snake ambush job on how he took the company from the 4 Winters Boys.
It was cold, calculating, exploitive, strategic, premeditated and planned. As were all his other future business dealings over 50 years.
The way the company his company is going now I’m willing to bet was by his own orders and directions given the night just before he departed.

So to be clear
I meant to say
He staged a targeted double murder.
When in fact it was a murder suicide.

There is no suspects to apprehend.
There is no threat to the public.
There is no point in tarnishing the family name.
The public doesn’t need to know.
The detectives found out the truth and told the family. The cops knew all along.
The lawyer spins and wheels and deals for his clients.
The family, to make sure it doesn’t come out in the public probably donated $100 million anonymously to a very good cause, and even a good chance a large donation to the Toronto Police Department who could use the resources to help solve real unsolved cases.

I wish there were other suspects and other motives. Because it is a fascinating story to try to solve.
But it’s way more simple than it looks.
It’s just a Domestic dispute that went really bad.
He didn’t want to move! He wished he could stay there! And he didn’t want to spend millions more money. He didn’t want to have to fight contractors again to recoup cost of construction for all the errors they would make. He had other more important things to litigate not contractors.
He had to figure out the pot pill and how to make sure health Canada did as he wanted.

It’s also an illusion, we are blinded by the person he was put on a pedestal by society to be, not who he really was as a person.
Few people can see what he really was as a person.
The rest want to believe the illusion.

This guy abandoned 4 orphaned little boys all under the age of 7 whose parents both died in 17 days. Their parents were his aunt and uncle.
His uncle took him under his wing as his nephew and taught him the business.
He then snaked the only promising livelihood these little cousins would have had after losing both parents in 17 days and all being under 7 years old. He was out trying to make a deal with the mother of the boys while she on her deathbed in hospital.
Right after they died he was at the trust company trying to make a deal.
What does that tell you about him?
The deal he got 2 years later——he then later reneged on his promise. He lied. Zero intention of having his 4 cousins in the business.

This is not a a saint. This is not Martyr. This is not a generous person. This is a man out to control everyone and everything around him to make money and more money and gain market share and to win at all costs.

This is the same person who created formulations
we are putting into our bodies. What makes you think he cared about your health?

 

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I cannot see even $20 mil being a big deal. After all, you can’t take it with you.