Canada - Bruce McArthur charged in murders of six men, Toronto, 2010-2017

[Grey-St]

Appreciate the updates, folks! I have to wait to watch for myself until after the hockey game .

 

[dotr]

From CTV's interactive link.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/confirmed...lleged-serial-killer-bruce-mcarthur-1.3805013

Official W5

Uploaded on Feb 16, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=kc1U6ABjiZI

Toronto's gay village

 

[Tealgrove]

We know that the young man found at BM's apt. when he was arrested was handcuffed on the bed ,but according to the show he was also gagged.

I think this young man was EXTREMELY lucky that LE were watching BM. I have a feeling that he could have been BM's next victim.

MOO

 

[puppyraiser]

Det. Sgt. Hank Idsinga looked like he was fighting back tears at one point during that interview (IMO). TPS can defend their actions all day long, but the truth is that those men from the village were not top priority because of their lifestyle and nationality. We know how seriously they took the disappearance of a young, white female with a history of mental illness and high risk lifestyle (Laura Babcock). Two people were murdered after she disappeared and TPS had the info they needed to look into a suspect, just like they did regarding BM.

 

[matou]

I was shocked to learn that LE had the name Bruce and his dating site username at least 6 years ago. Also that the friend who submitted this info saw Majeed and BM together. SMH. How many other victims don't we know about since after Majeed was killed? This is horrible.

 

[LadyL]

this info was on W5?

After Kayhan went missing, his friend named "Chris" who dated Kayhan told LE about a guy named Bruce who visited Kayhan once while "Chris" was there. He gave them his internet handle....that was 6 years ago

 

[SFB30]

this info was on W5?

Yes. “Chris” was interviewed on camera.


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[LadyL]

well he said even the families thought the same thing

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...stry-identify-serial-killers/article38014017/

Interesting article outlining what TPS had theorized happened to the missing men of Project Houston, admitted by Idsinga himself. I find it incredibly difficult to comprehend how anyone could have come to these conclusions, given the information they had at the time, and the information we have now.

 

[Grey-St]

well he said even the families thought the same thing

Are the family members seasoned investigators? The family members also didn't know a lot about the men's lives. A good investigator moves on evidence, and takes what folks have to say with a grain of salt, until it pans out, if and when it does.

Why would any of these men be returning to a country they initially fled for safety, after they had been accustomed to living their lives freely (closeted or otherwise), to live somewhere they could be killed or incarcerated for living life as a gay man? They left passports. It could have been easily confirmed if they left the country through border or airline security, which they obviously didn't. The evidence would show that this wasn't a valid theory.

 

[Wendy101]

I just watched W5 -- the investigator said BM was a travelling salesman.. what was he selling? where did he travel to? Has anyone been able to to a background on him? like places he lived?

Does anyone else think he was killing long ago while he was still married to his wife - I believe he has been killing for a long, long time.

 

[Grey-St]

I just watched W5 -- the investigator said BM was a travelling salesman.. what was he selling? where did he travel to? Has anyone been able to to a background on him? like places he lived?

Does anyone else think he was killing long ago while he was still married to his wife - I believe he has been killing for a long, long time.

He worked in the garment industry. I believe that's what his traveling sales work was related to. He traveled all over southern Ontario. In terms of where he lived, he grew up near Fenelon Falls, and went to school there. He moved to and live in Oshawa when he married and had children. Then to Toronto when they separated and he came out.

It's hard to know how far back his murdering goes. I agree that he could have been doing this for quite some time.

 

[tarabull]

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...Before starting work in landscaping, Bruce McArthur spent many years as a salesperson in Ontario, including time in Toronto in the 1970s.

...Quiet, polite, and “floppy,” is how McArthur carried himself during his days as a buyer and assistant for Eaton’s department stores in Toronto between at least 1973 and 1978, Foot said.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4008870/...-by-murder-accusations-facing-bruce-mcarthur/

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...McArthur spent his childhood on a farm along Palestine Road, close to where MacEachern lives and raises beef cattle with his wife, Lynda. McArthur, who also attended Fenelon Falls Secondary, left Kawartha Lakes for the GTA in 1970 at the age of 18.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4008870/...-by-murder-accusations-facing-bruce-mcarthur/

 

[tarabull]

Missing men lead to police investigation of alleged serial killer and W5 documentary
February 17, 2018

https://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/missing-m...ed-serial-killer-and-w5-documentary-1.3807002

 

[tarabull]

Why missing men weren’t on a federal registry meant to identify serial killers
February 16, 2018

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...stry-identify-serial-killers/article38014017/

 

[dotr]

Noting this cold case, Graham P was a bearded, Gay man.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?305705-Graham-Hugh-Pearce-36-murdered-on-March-20-1983-Toronto&p=12482095#post12482095
Graham Pearce, 36, Toronto, 20 March 1983

http://torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/34556

Homicide Detective Sergeant Stacy Gallant is appealing to the public to help find who murdered Graham Hugh Pearce, 36, on Sunday, March 20, 1983.

At around 12.40 p.m., on Sunday, March 20, 1983, 11 Division officers responded to a call for a sudden death in an apartment at 35 High Park Avenue.

The body of Graham Hugh Pearce was found on his bathroom floor, with a stab wound. He was a single, gay man, living with a roommate who called police after arriving home and discovering the body.

Detective Sergeant Gallant said the investigation revealed Pearce was bar-hopping on March 19. “That night, he visited Boots Bar on Sherbourne St. and Stages Bar at Yonge St,” said Gallant.

During the ongoing investigation, throughout the years, a Person of Interest, Ronald Thomas Gale, then 22, was identified through evidence. The identification however, was made after he had died.

Investigators are appealing to anyone who knew Ronald Gale, or who his friends and associates were, in 1983.

Investigators are also appealing to people in their 50s and 60s in the gay community who may have information.



rbbm.

 

[tarabull]

Robert Gale died, and after his death he was labeled a POI in Grahams murder.....

I won't hold my breath for closure on this one.

TPS has way bigger fish to fry these days, & being ultra short staffed isn't going to make things any easier, after so much time has passed.

 

[Errrr]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...stry-identify-serial-killers/article38014017/

Interesting article outlining what TPS had theorized happened to the missing men of Project Houston, admitted by Idsinga himself. I find it incredibly difficult to comprehend how anyone could have come to these conclusions, given the information they had at the time, and the information we have now.

I've always been astounded at the excuses from TPS for not recording things or why it's sooooo hard. Poking things into databases is so much easier than driving places and talking to people. I wonder if reading things is hard for them too. If they filled these databases regularly they would have statistics that could be used to assess the likelihood of people turning up or not.
In the case of women, gays or immigrants, it's like these guys make broad assumptions about how other people live that allow them to dismiss the cases they have no interest in because they're outside mainstream white culture. I don't think it is racism as much as massive cultural ignorance.

 

[dotr]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/murder-suicide-home-sale-1.4540866

[h=1]Shopping for a home? Ask if it was ever a murder scene[/h]
[h=3]There’s no law saying homeowners, agents must disclose murders, suicides to potential buyers, lawyer says[/h]

f you're hoping to score a bargain going for a home that was once the scene of a murder or suicide, you might be disappointed. Sylvia Santarelli of ReMax Hallmark Realty says that might not have much of an effect on how much a home might cost, but could have more of an emotional impact on buyers. However, that might see fewer people bidding on those homes, which could affect value.

But in downtown Toronto she says people aren't bothered much by homes that have seen unnatural deaths.

"They don't mind if there's a suicide. Murder is a different story especially now there's so many of them in the news," she said. "That will affect value in the sense of there might be less people bidding on the homes."

For particularly notorious murders, she says homes might stay on the market longer and might have to be demolished.

 

[Grey-St]

I've always been astounded at the excuses from TPS for not recording things or why it's sooooo hard. Poking things into databases is so much easier than driving places and talking to people. I wonder if reading things is hard for them too. If they filled these databases regularly they would have statistics that could be used to assess the likelihood of people turning up or not.
In the case of women, gays or immigrants, it's like these guys make broad assumptions about how other people live that allow them to dismiss the cases they have no interest in because they're outside mainstream white culture. I don't think it is racism as much as massive cultural ignorance.

It screams complete incompetence to me, to be honest, among all the varied "isms" within power, privilege and oppression.

 

[tarabull]

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