Canada - Bruce McArthur- Pleads Guilty - murders of 8 men, Toronto, 2010-2017 #2

[FindingJonRiley]

These articles are all connected to the AP release by Rob Gillies and Caleb Jones. I did a taped interview on Oahu feb 28. Rob has helped me sift through the new information as it becomes available so I don’t need to search for articles.

 

[JDG]

if you invest and inheritance it isn't necessarily exhausted, it could very will be a nest egg or the base of an investment with earnings.

any nest egg would have become part of the bankruptcy proceedings.

 

[dotr]

These articles are all connected to the AP release by Rob Gillies and Caleb Jones. I did a taped interview on Oahu feb 28. Rob has helped me sift through the new information as it becomes available so I don’t need to search for articles.

Re post of article.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/focus-turns-to-missing-in-bruce-mcarthur-case-1.3851978

Rob Gillies and Caleb Jones, The Associated Press
Published Wednesday, March 21, 2018

Judi Riley, a children's book author who now lives on Maui, said her older brother had worked as landscaper in the past, though he didn't have a steady job at the time of his disappearance. He had left a note for their mother saying he was headed for a few days to Toronto, and in the past had stayed in hostels and shelters in Gay Village.

 

[dotr]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...-review-barring-mcarthur-discussion-1.4590313

Decision to exclude McArthur homicide probe from missing persons review raises questions

If the McArthur investigation is off limits, will review be the critical look it's supposed to be?

Ali Chiasson · CBC News · Posted: Mar 25, 2018

The Toronto Police Services Board voted to back Mayor John Tory's motion for an external review on Thursday, but the board does not want the review to interfere with the ongoing investigation into the six homicides that McArthur is accused of committing, nor any other charges that may be laid, or any eventual criminal trial.

"We all want the police to identify all the victims and to lay all of the appropriate charges. However, let's face it, if convicted of any of the charges that have already been laid, the accused man will never leave prison alive."

 

[FindingJonRiley]

I understand a need to let the police collect evidence now but this is ridiculous. My brother Jon Riley disappeared April 26,2013 and the police wouldn’t take a missing persons report. At that time, we didn’t know about Project Houston which started in November 2012. They should’ve investigated my brother’s disappearance as part of that Project. Jon was reported missing in downtown Toronto. It should’ve rang alarms.

 

[andreww]

I understand a need to let the police collect evidence now but this is ridiculous. My brother Jon Riley disappeared April 26,2013 and the police wouldn’t take a missing persons report. At that time, we didn’t know about Project Houston which started in November 2012. They should’ve investigated my brother’s disappearance as part of that Project. Jon was reported missing in downtown Toronto. It should’ve rang alarms.

Was Jon gay? Did he frequent the village?

 

[dotr]

So if all remains were found at Mallory thus far, and none have been found at other locations, I wonder exactly if they have found entire sets of remains or just partial? I've always thought that the idea of hiding body parts in planters around the city was a pretty dumb idea as it would only be a matter time before someone dug in to one and discovered what was there. So it seems to me the planters may have been a temporary solution and were just being stored safely at Mallory. So the question becomes, what was he planning to do, or had he already begun doing with these bodies?

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/...y-the-work-of-a-psychopath-expert_a_23349523/
rbbm.

Criminologist and former police officer Michael Arntfield said the revelations suggest the victims' bodies were moved and hidden. It's a relatively rare tactic "strongly co-related with offenders who are in the psychopathic spectrum," he said, as opposed to those suffering from a mental health issue or acting spontaneously out of anger or under the influence of a narcotic.

"The degree of planning and execution with respect to the M.O. (modus operandi) and disposal methodology suggests an offender who's been at this for some time, and through a sort of trial-and-error has found a way to get away with it."

"It's difficult to get rid of bodies. How do you do it in a place like Toronto? You don't have access to heavy machinery and can't bury them 30 feet underground," says Boyd. "Of course, by definition all of this is extremely risky and displays a kind of contempt for human life that almost all of us find very disturbing."

Arntfield agrees, adding that he suspects the planters were used as interim storage, and that police would find more victims at an intended interment location — wherever that is.

 

[andreww]

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/...y-the-work-of-a-psychopath-expert_a_23349523/
rbbm.

Thanks for that. I wonder if McArthur would wait for large permanent landscaping projects, like a concrete patio for instance, where he could bury remains and be assured that they would not be uncovered for decades? Or perhaps he really didn't have a plan for disposal and the planters were just storage until he came up wit one? It will be interesting to discover how complete the remains sets are. If they are incomplete, he's obviously disposing of them somewhere.

 

[dotr]

Random speculation, imo.
Assuming that BM did not do any gardening while touring the Maritimes, but what about boating?
Iirc, on BM's f book page there were photos of boats ( does anyone remember them, or have pics?)
So BM was a regular church-goer, wonder what kind and if anyone has ever gone missing from ones that he attended?
Did he do any volunteer gardening for any churches?
rbbm.
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1544701-p.e.i.-man-met-alleged-serial-killer
JIM DAY THE GUARDIAN
Published February 11, 2018

It was in late July of 1997 that MacLeod first met McArthur..

MacLeod recalls McArthur’s visit to Prince Edward Island as being nothing more than an innocent vacation.

McArthur was touring the Maritimes with his then wife, Janice (nee Campbell).

MacLeod’s relative, a person who had attended for years the same Oshawa church as McArthur and Janice, lined the couple up to stay for free in a summer house that MacLeod took care of.

The pair stayed at the house on Cambridge Road for two nights, spending their days checking out parts of the Island.

The pair told MacLeod they were impressed by their visit to P.E.I. and quite taken by the Confederation Bridge.

Interestingly, according to multiple media reports, McArthur gradually came out of the closet in the late 1990s. He left his wife and family in Oshawa in 1998 or 1999 and moved into Toronto.

 

[dotr]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/...-of-murder-the-national-documentary-1.4596234

Video

[h=1]Toronto serial killer's trail of murder | The National Documentary[/h]Posted: Mar 27, 2018

Toronto police are following a serial killer's trail of murder, but it has now been two weeks since their last update. That's due in part to the weather — freezing temperatures have made it difficult for investigators to properly search for clues. With warmer weather in the near future, police are hopeful of unearthing more evidence. For The National Documentary, Ioanna Roumeliotis puts together what we know about the case so far, the suspect, and the trail of evidence surrounding Toronto's chilling murder investigation. Correction: A previous version of this story used an image that misidentified Bruce McArthur. 11:33

 

[dotr]

https://nowtoronto.com/news/interview-kristyn-wong-tam-police-bruce-mcarthur-murder-charges/

[h=1]Kristyn Wong-Tam on the Village murders and Toronto police[/h] In the wake of Bruce McArthur's alleged murder charges, councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam speaks candidly about the strained relationship between the LGBTQ community and Toronto police

by Samantha Edwards

March 28, 2018

 

[FindingJonRiley]

Jon is not gay. The Gay Village is not an exclusively gay neighborhood. It is located in the heart of downtown Toronto. Jon stayed in hostels and shelters when he visited Toronto. They’re all in this same area. Jon’s # 1 choice was the Salvation Army, which is the same shelter victim Dean stayed. At these shelters, companies and individuals recruit laborers. Typically, they fax over the jobs available for the day which are announced to men at the shelter. These faxes would then get thrown out. McArthur recruited laborers from here and then met them away from the shelter, in public places like in front of convenience stores. So there would be no paper trail and no obvious connection of McArthur to the victims.

 

[matou]

Angry relative accuses police services of failing to follow up on multiple reports of missing man in Toronto

J*** Riley’s brother, Jon, had been missing for four years when the police contacted her last month with a specific and unsettling question: Which side of his body had a surgical scar?


It was late afternoon on Feb. 18 when she got the voicemail from an Ontario Provincial Police constable.

For years, she had been exasperated by what she saw as the police’s indifference to her brother’s disappearance. Mr. Riley was 46 when he vanished in 2013 after telling his mother, with whom he lived in Meaford, Ont., that he was going to Toronto for a visit.


Ms. Riley, who lives in Hawaii, said she tried to report him missing when she stopped hearing from him, but had trouble convincing Toronto police her brother was not the kind of person to cut off contact with his family, and that they should open a file on him. And when the provincial police took the case months later, it was not put it into the RCMP’s missing-persons database.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...=rss&click=sf_globe&__twitter_impression=true

 

[Grey-St]

Angry relative accuses police services of failing to follow up on multiple reports of missing man in Toronto

J*** Riley’s brother, Jon, had been missing for four years when the police contacted her last month with a specific and unsettling question: Which side of his body had a surgical scar?


It was late afternoon on Feb. 18 when she got the voicemail from an Ontario Provincial Police constable.

For years, she had been exasperated by what she saw as the police’s indifference to her brother’s disappearance. Mr. Riley was 46 when he vanished in 2013 after telling his mother, with whom he lived in Meaford, Ont., that he was going to Toronto for a visit.


Ms. Riley, who lives in Hawaii, said she tried to report him missing when she stopped hearing from him, but had trouble convincing Toronto police her brother was not the kind of person to cut off contact with his family, and that they should open a file on him. And when the provincial police took the case months later, it was not put it into the RCMP’s missing-persons database.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...=rss&click=sf_globe&__twitter_impression=true

Incomprehensible and devastating on every possible level. I share deeply in their anger. I don't know what else to say, it just feels like there's a fire in my stomach at the moment.

 

[dotr]

http://torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/40720

Statement from Chief Mark Saunders,
2018 Pride Parade ParticipationBroadcast time: 12:10

Tuesday, April 3, 2018

Office of the Chief
416-808-8000
On multiple recent occasions, I have expressed my sincere commitment to the cause of strengthening and renewing the relationship between the Toronto Police Service and our city’s LGBTQ2S community. As we have heard from the community itself, we have been through challenging times and it is a personal priority of mine as Chief to build an even more constructive, trusting relationship for the future.

With this very goal in mind, I had hoped to see our civilians and uniformed officers invited back to march in the 2018 Pride Parade. My hope was that it would demonstrate a shared commitment to progress and healing. In particular, I think of the many members of the Toronto Police Service who identify as LGBTQ2S and who wish to meaningfully participate in unity and inclusion.

That being said, I am conscious of the need to avoid any setback that might undermine the principle objective of coming together and restoring confidence. In light of the concerns expressed in yesterday’s letter to me, I will be withdrawing the application we have made to the organizing committee of the Pride Parade. My hope is that this move will be received as a concrete example of the fact that I am listening closely to the community’s concerns and I am committed thoroughly to building a better, stronger relationship between us. Much more work is needed, of course. But hopefully this moment moves us forward in an important way.

I strongly believe that we should be working toward a time when this issue is no longer a point of controversy and where the participation of our members in the Pride Parade is accepted and welcomed. The Toronto Police Service will work hard over the course of the next year toward that end and, ideally, the 2019 Pride Parade will offer an opportunity to demonstrate that progression.

https://news.vice.com/en_ca/article...attend-annual-parade-over-bruce-mcarthur-case

McArthur’s arrest has “added a new poignancy and a new pain to the fears that sit at the heart of anyone who lives a life of difference,” said Pride Toronto's statement on Monday, which was also signed by the LGBTQ advocacy organization The 519, the Toronto People With AIDS Foundation, Sherbourne Health Centre, ASAAP, and the Black Coalition for AIDS Prevention.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pride-parade-toronto-bruce-mcarthur-police-1.4602677

We are coming into a Pride parade that is beset with the grief.- Olivia Nuamah, Pride Toronto
​

"What changed was Bruce McArthur, to be honest with you. What changed was the re-emergence of that feeling, of that feeling of a lack of safety," said Nuamah in an interview with CBC's Metro Morning on Tuesday.

 

[Hazel]

The Fifth Estate

Next Episode - BROADCAST DATE : April 6, 2018

Murder in the Village: Bruce McArthur and the Mysterious Deaths in the 1970s

It was news of an alleged serial killer that shocked a community, a city and a country: In early 2018 Bruce McArthur was charged with six counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of missing men from Toronto's gay village. But the case is far from closed and as the police continue their investigation, the death toll is expected to rise. The allegations are that McArthur spent years masterfully covering his tracks. McArthur denies all the accusations.

The police are also looking as far back as the 1970s when McArthur was a young man in his twenties, working in downtown Toronto.

This week, the Fifth Estate uncovers the stories of men from Toronto’s gay community who were brutally killed over four decades ago. Many of those cases are still unsolved – cold cases that are now being re-opened.

WATCH Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9 PM / 9:30NT on CBC Television

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/20...arthur-and-the-mysterious-deaths-in-the-1970s

 

[Grey-St]

The Fifth Estate

Next Episode - BROADCAST DATE : April 6, 2018

Murder in the Village: Bruce McArthur and the Mysterious Deaths in the 1970s

WATCH Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9 PM / 9:30NT on CBC Television

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/20...arthur-and-the-mysterious-deaths-in-the-1970s

Interesting, I will certainly be tuning in. I wonder which cases exactly they have focused on?

 

[FindingJonRiley]

There are a series of gay men murdered who match the time period McArthur was working for Eaton’s downtown Toronto

 

[dotr]

https://www.cp24.com/news/detective...king-into-cold-cases-from-the-1970s-1.3870681
April 4 2018

[h=1]Detective in McArthur investigation says police looking into cold cases from the 1970s[/h]

Det.-Sgt. Hank Idsinga previously told reporters that investigators are looking into numerous cold cases to see if there is any link to the accused serial killer but did not provide a specific timeframe.

The confirmation comes on the heels of a CBC Fifth Estate investigation that is set to air on Friday. In a preview of the show, The Fifth Estate says the team’s investigation will focus on the stories of several men from Toronto’s gay community who were brutally murdered more than four decades ago.
According to CBC, some of these cold cases are now being reopened

 

[Maple]

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/toronto-gay-village-killings

BM had, in fact, worked in downtown Toronto for Eaton's as someone here had previously suggested.

A young Bruce McArthur was working at Eaton’s downtown.

I wonder how he could afford to by other employees such extravagant gifts.

Bennett remembers he bought her mother Dickens’ Village figurines — miniature porcelain houses that ranged from about $50 to $100 each.

They were collectors’ items that would make up a Christmas village. Eventually, Bennett says her mother had enough figurines from McArthur to create her own village.

McArthur, too, had a collection she says he displayed “proudly” year-round.

“It would probably take up a 10-foot by four-foot table at least.”