Canada - Canadian hockey team fatal bus accident tragedy, 6 April 2018

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  • #921
I am pretty sure nobody would intentionally put themselves in danger or other road users at risk of death. You cannot know anything about what was going thru the driver’s head at the moment he passed into the intersection...you certainly can’t say it was a deliberate act.
He was inexperienced, yes, he was learning, he was distracted but he didn’t “blow” through the intersection with a callous disregard for himself or others...he made a mistake.
You can believe what you like but you can’t know otherwise.

Rest in peace hockey legends, for your deaths will not be forgotton, nor will they have been in vain. Whether it be GPS-assisted road warning systems or better-indicated intersections or different licensing restrictions...road safety will surely be improved going forward.
Love to all touched by this tragedy. x
 
  • #922
eucalyptuz said:
I am pretty sure nobody would intentionally put themselves in danger or other road users at risk of death. You cannot know anything about what was going thru the driver’s head at the moment he passed into the intersection...you certainly can’t say it was a deliberate act.
He was inexperienced, yes, he was learning, he was distracted but he didn’t “blow” through the intersection with a callous disregard for himself or others...he made a mistake.
You can believe what you like but you can’t know otherwise.

Rest in peace hockey legends, for your deaths will not be forgotton, nor will they have been in vain. Whether it be GPS-assisted road warning systems or better-indicated intersections or different licensing restrictions...road safety will surely be improved going forward.
Love to all touched by this tragedy. x
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I know of two brothers, farmers, who at separate times blew stop signs and barrelled through an intersection because they were not expecting other traffic. They both died in separate car accidents a couple of years apart. It happens.

He was not distracted. He claims that his load was not properly secured, but that is a violation. It was his responsibility to stop and secure the load/tarp (if it really was loose). He can't blame a second violation on the first violation and expect anyone to take him seriously.

I know that there was no reason for him to not see the stop sign, therefore he was doing something wrong if he did not see it. No changes to the road will reduce accidents where a semi-driver on a backroad blows a stop sign.
 
  • #923
And what of the owner of the trucking company? A $5,000 fine.

Owner of Calgary-based trucking firm involved in Humboldt crash fined $5K after pleading guilty | CBC News

“....On Wednesday, Smyth read some of the facts of the case aloud as part of the guilty plea negotiated with Raja.

The investigation revealed in the months leading to the crash that Singh was missing a total of 27 daily logs for his own driving. Sidhu was missing two daily logs between Jan. 1 and March 31, 2018, while a third driver had no missing logs.

"There is no evidence that Mr. Singh had a monitoring process to ensure each driver providing one daily log," said Smyth.

Singh's guilty pleas come just days after Sidhu was sentenced to eight years in prison. He pleaded guilty in January to 29 counts of dangerous driving causing death or injury.

In contrast, Singh's convictions — which are not criminal but rather fall under provincial and federal regulations — come with fines capped at $5,000...”
 
  • #924
MistyWaters said:
And what of the owner of the trucking company? A $5,000 fine.

Owner of Calgary-based trucking firm involved in Humboldt crash fined $5K after pleading guilty | CBC News

“....On Wednesday, Smyth read some of the facts of the case aloud as part of the guilty plea negotiated with Raja.

The investigation revealed in the months leading to the crash that Singh was missing a total of 27 daily logs for his own driving. Sidhu was missing two daily logs between Jan. 1 and March 31, 2018, while a third driver had no missing logs.

"There is no evidence that Mr. Singh had a monitoring process to ensure each driver providing one daily log," said Smyth.

Singh's guilty pleas come just days after Sidhu was sentenced to eight years in prison. He pleaded guilty in January to 29 counts of dangerous driving causing death or injury.

In contrast, Singh's convictions — which are not criminal but rather fall under provincial and federal regulations — come with fines capped at $5,000...”
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I don’t think this is fair at all. Is he banned from opening up another trucking company because if not he should be.
 
  • #925
gregjrichards said:
I don’t think this is fair at all. Is he banned from opening up another trucking company because if not he should be.
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It shocked me as well. It seems there’s really no accountability whatsoever on the owner of a trucking company to ensure their truck drivers follow regulations. That’s quite different than, for example construction companies oversight of their employees.

How lax the trucking industry has become is sure a real eye opener for me.

I’m certain what’ll come next are lawsuits. It’ll be interesting to see how that proceeds but of course it’ll take years and years to wind through the court system.
 
  • #926
gregjrichards said:
I don’t think this is fair at all. Is he banned from opening up another trucking company because if not he should be.
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Agreed ..... and that is what bothers me the most .... operators and drivers such as this recent case KNOW they are breaking the rules ..... THEY KNOW they are breaking the law ..... they skirt the law CONSTANTLY .... and they dont nessesarily do it just for the money , it is like it is embedded in their personality or something. I have read insurance statistics that show it clearly , but cannot be made public because it is considered discrimination. Heck , just look at all the charges laid in Ontario for such operators whose truck equipment failed safety checks on roadside checks ..... yet they had (falsely filled out) safety certificates saying they passed.

Truck drivers who play by the rules can make a very good income , no cheating necessary.
 
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TSN will have a one hour special called '29 Forever' this evening at 7:30pm EST as we approach the 1 year anniversary of the horrible bus crash that occurred April 6, 2018.

TSN on Twitter
 
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puppyraiser said:
TSN will have a one hour special called '29 Forever' this evening at 7:30pm EST as we approach the 1 year anniversary of the horrible bus crash that occurred April 6, 2018.

TSN on Twitter
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It is going to be very emotional on Saturday.
 
  • #931
When paramedics Jessica Probst and Barry Thompson arrived at the scene of the Humboldt Broncos bus crash, they were unprepared for what they saw.

A bus torn apart and flipped on its side. Hockey bags strewn across the ground. Survivors rushing to help.

“There was just a lot of chaos and people running around and the urgency in their step, their faces, that you could tell this was extremely serious,” Probst, general manager of North East EMS, told CTV News.

'A career of tragedy in one event': First responders recall Humboldt Broncos crash

Any news on a permanent memorial?
 
  • #932
I’m thinking of all the victims who died, the injured and their families on the first anniversary today.

May Glen Doerksen, Dayna Brons, Darcy Haugan, Brody Hinz, Tyler Bieber, Mark Cross, Adam Herold, Stephen Wack, Jacob Leicht, Conner Lukan, Jaxon Joseph, Evan Thomas, Logan Hunter, Logan Schatz, Logan Boulet, and Parker Tobin all Rest In Peace.
 
  • #933
gregjrichards said:
When paramedics Jessica Probst and Barry Thompson arrived at the scene of the Humboldt Broncos bus crash, they were unprepared for what they saw.

A bus torn apart and flipped on its side. Hockey bags strewn across the ground. Survivors rushing to help.

“There was just a lot of chaos and people running around and the urgency in their step, their faces, that you could tell this was extremely serious,” Probst, general manager of North East EMS, told CTV News.

'A career of tragedy in one event': First responders recall Humboldt Broncos crash

Any news on a permanent memorial?
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Last I read about a permanent memorial at the site of the tradegy, the intersection was possibly going to be redesigned but plans hadn’t been formalized. So in relation to that a memorial appears to still be pending.

But plenty of tributes happening at the Humboldt Gallery which I believe is at the Humboldt Museum. That it draws people to Humboldt who want to offer or view personal tributes is an wonderful, heartwarming endeavour hosted by the community.

Humboldt Broncos memorial exhibit displays outpouring of support from around the world
“Not everything is on display, but it’s estimated around 6,000 items have been received......

.....The impact of the exhibit is far-reaching. Fitzpatrick said, with people travelling through Saskatchewan stopping specifically in Humboldt.

“We had people who did just journey to Humboldt either to bring a piece to us or to just see the community and just show any support that they could,” she said.

For now, the goal is to preserve and keep all of the memorabilia.....”
 
  • #934
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A memorial service being held today to mark one year since the Humboldt Broncos tragedy will include a moment of silence at 4:50 p.m. — the exact time of the deadly crash.

Sixteen people were killed and 13 were injured after the Saskatchewan hockey team’s bus collided with a semi driven by a novice trucker who had blown the stop sign at a rural intersection.

The crash struck a chord with hockey-loving Canadians and moved people around the world to put hockey sticks on their front porches in solidarity with the Humboldt community.

More than $15 million was donated for the victims’ families.

One year later: Memorial service for those killed in Humboldt Broncos crash
 
  • #935
This mother’s thought provoking words, one of many tributes...

“....Celeste Leray-Leicht, whose son Jacob died in the crash, told the assembled throng about the ties forged between families of those on the bus.

“We are family. Not by blood, but by pain,” she said, and afterwards, she talked about the importance of appreciating those little things in life — chatting with a neighbour, going for a walk with a loved one.

“I just don’t want people to be stuck,” she said. “We all deserve to have a good life. Everybody deserves to have a good life, and it’s important we recognize that. In order to truly honour all 29, I think we need to live our lives to the best of our abilities. And now we need to be able to do it privately.”
‘They still cross my mind daily’: Humboldt Broncos remembered, one year later
 
  • #936
Deleted - Sincere apologies wrong thread.
 
  • #937
Maybe off topic but so many similarities ....

A semi struck a vehicle at Highway 16 and the Trans-Canada Highway intersection, west of Portage la Prairie, on August 27th of 2017, causing the deaths of Carley Hunking (19-years-old) and Portage resident Dorian Roulette (17-years-old).

The driver of the truck was in court Wednesday in Portage la Prairie, and pled guilty to the charge of careless driving, after having initially been charged with criminal negligence and dangerous driving causing death.

Gurjant Singh was fined $3,000 with his driver's license suspended for a year.

He blew through a red light at a major intersection ..... plenty of signs and flashing lights and signs indicating a major intersection

Sing had less than one year of driving experience since coming to Canada

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/gurjant-singh-guilty-plea-fine-suspension-1.5101969
 
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