CANADA Canada - Christine Jessop, 9, Queensville, Ont, 3 Oct 1984 - #1

[Dedpanman]

So, I think we might be done with the VICTIMOLOGY filter. A lot of the other filters have been discussed to death already... and some are nearly impossible to discuss due to lack of information and data. I wonder if we could maybe move the discussion to filter #10 - SUSPECT INFORMATION? There hasn't been a real thorough disccussion of "the other suspects" in this case to my knowledge on this thread or others (that I'm aware of).

I'd like to prepare a profile (not psychological - just a compiling of the available information) on the individual known as "MR. T." in the Kaufman Report and named by Makin in Redrum. I'll use the code "MR. T." and not use his real name.

If we want to discuss the brothers in Richmond Hill who were responsible for the sexual exploitation, we can refer to them as BM and AM. (BM is the older brother, AM - the younger brother.)

Woodland's got WPS...

And, I know there are others...

Might be interesting to put these individuals on the table and compare notes. Some of these people seem to have been cleared by the police, but there are always issues with that, too. "MR. T." in particular.

Shall we...?


For reference:
1 - VICTIMOLOGY
2 - INITIAL CONTACT SITE
3 - CRIME SCENE
4 - DISPOSAL SITE
5 - PHYSICAL ASSAULT
6 - SEXUAL ASSAULT
7 - M.O. and SIGNATURE
8 - ORGANIZED versus DISORGANIZED
9 - OFFENDER RISK
10 - SUSPECT INFORMATION

 

[Dedpanman]

SUSPECT: MR. T

From the Kaufman Report:
(Verbatim)

The Chief of the Bradford Police Department, John Harrison, was concerned enough to contact Inspector Wilson suggesting that “Mr. T” be considered a serious suspect in relation to Christine Jessop’s disappearance. He was described as a young person with a criminal record involving sexual offences against young children, was known to carry a buck-knife, and had worked behind the Jessops' home in the cemetery — a location where Christine Jessop played regularly — as late as July 1984.

The whereabouts of Mr. T. were investigated by York Regional Police. He was quickly ‘cleared,’ apparently on the basis of information provided by family members who established an alibi for him. When, some years later, an attempt was made to verify this alibi, it was discovered to have been false.

The investigation of this lead was, in my view, less than adequate. I should note that this example is not intended to suggest, in any way, that Mr. T. was responsible for Christine Jessop’s disappearance. In my view, a number of individuals were inadequately cleared during the Durham Regional investigation as well — though they have undoubtedly been properly cleared by now. (Note: that is an assumption –my opinion.)


From the Redrum: The Innocent:

(point form notes from pgs 42-43)
- Mr. T – at the time of Christine’s abduction was not quite 16 years old
- Known to carry a knife and engage in deviant behaviour
- Police believed that he had tied up a woman
- Had exposed himself to two girls after threatening to put handcuffs on them
- Worked briefly as a grave-digger in the cemetery behind the Jessop’s house
- At the time of her disappearance he was on probation for sexually assaulting a ten-year old boy
- At the time of his first interview he seemed jumpy, behaved erratically, and was unsure of his whereabouts on October 3
- He later came up with an alibi that was supported by family members
- The alibi: he was with friends the morning of Oct. 3, at 2:30 pm he signed for a parcel at his sister’s house, then worked around the house with his brother until 4:00 pm, then picked up his father at the local Legion
- Police verified some aspects of this “alibi” – but never contacted the parcel delivery service or the Legion

(point form notes from pgs 42-43)
- Mr. T was known by those around him to have a violent temper
- Had once walked into his high school waving a gun
- Had assaulted a schoolmate
- Had threatened to kill a teacher
- A teacher had seized a knife from him at school
- Mr. T’s high school principal and vice principal considered him “capable of committing a violent murder” and was someone who took drugs and that he lacked genuine emotions
- When Durham officers visited him, he answered the door sporting a buck knife on his belt
- Agreed to take a polygraph but then retracted the offer (this is evidence of nothing – my opinion)

(point form notes from pgs 336-337)
- In 1989, a woman who worked with a friend of Mr. T’s sister contacted police with a tip:
- In essence the woman claimed that her friend told her that Mr. T’s family had lied about the alibi and that Mr. T. was unaccounted for and had taken the family car the day Christine disappeared
- Police interviewed the friend, and Mr. T’s sister, and both women denied that the tip was true

(point form notes from pgs 360-361)
- In 1990, Mr. T’s probation officer contacted police and volunteered information this information: that one month prior to Christine’s abduction, Mr. T. had taken a young boy to a secluded area and had forcibly fondled his private parts
- In early 1985 Mr. T had been convicted of indecent exposure
- In 1990, when questioned again by police, Mr. T could not remember his whereabouts on October 3

 

[matou]

Mr T seems like the perp to me. Violent temper, sexual deviant, carried a knife, had access to a car, worked in a cemetary and CJ's body was positioned in a sick way (maybe that was his funerary touch for Christine.) JMO. Does anyone know where this person is now?

Can someone tell me his real name? TIA. I have Makin's book somewhere and I can't find it right now.

 

[Dedpanman]

Mr T seems like the perp to me. Violent temper, sexual deviant, carried a knife, had access to a car, worked in a cemetary and CJ's body was positioned in a sick way (maybe that was his funerary touch for Christine.) JMO. Does anyone know where this person is now?

Can someone tell me his real name? TIA. I have Makin's book somewhere and I can't find it right now.

We probably should not use real names here on the thread. MR. T's real name is available in Makin's book. I have no idea where this guy is now. Hopefully, locked up somewhere.

 

[Dedpanman]

I'd like to know if Mr. T volunteered a DNA sample, and if so, was that sample cleared against the profile generated to clear GPM?

If he did not volunteer, was there enough "evidence" to permit a warrant for police to take a DNA sample?

If no... how can Kaufman assume that he's been "undoubtedly" and "properly cleared by now"?

Does anyone have any info on this?

 

[Mistysues]

Mr T seems like the perp to me. Violent temper, sexual deviant, carried a knife, had access to a car, worked in a cemetary and CJ's body was positioned in a sick way (maybe that was his funerary touch for Christine.) JMO. Does anyone know where this person is now?

Can someone tell me his real name? TIA. I have Makin's book somewhere and I can't find it right now.

Can someone also tell me the real name of Mr. T as I do not have Makin's book. Thank you in advance.

 

[Mistysues]

We probably should not use real names here on the thread. MR. T's real name is available in Makin's book. I have no idea where this guy is now. Hopefully, locked up somewhere.

Dedpanman - What page could we find it on?

 

[Woodland]

Dedpanman - page 618 of RR.

'The task force had "bled" more than three hundred individuals ... They had tracked down each of the original suspects and eliminated them one by one.'

While Mr T is not specified in the above quote as being eliminated as a suspect, it implies he was.

 

[Woodland]

To save some trouble and possible confusion later, Makin's 'List of Characters' has a bracketed line underneath - (pseudonyms in italics).

The name used in RR for this person is in italics on this list. It's not his real name, according to the author.

 

[Mistysues]

To save some trouble and possible confusion later, Makin's 'List of Characters' has a bracketed line underneath - (pseudonyms in italics).

The name used in RR for this person is in italics on this list. It's not his real name, according to the author.

Woodland; just clarifying the name in the book is not Mr. T's real name?

 

[Dedpanman]

Dedpanman - page 618 of RR.

'The task force had "bled" more than three hundred individuals ... They had tracked down each of the original suspects and eliminated them one by one.'

While Mr T is not specified in the above quote as being eliminated as a suspect, it implies he was.

Yeah, I know, but it's somehow not conclusive enough for my taste. If Makin had mentioned Mr. T specifically by name and had said that he was cleared, I wouldn't even be mentioning this guy. Instead, it's only suggested. I'd really like to see something more definitive, then I could move past this suspect.

 

[Dedpanman]

To save some trouble and possible confusion later, Makin's 'List of Characters' has a bracketed line underneath - (pseudonyms in italics).

The name used in RR for this person is in italics on this list. It's not his real name, according to the author.

I double checked and Woodland is absolutely right. The name given for Mr. T in REDRUM is a pseudonym. So I can use it here. Mr. T in the Kaufman Report is "Dean MacPhail" in REDRUM. This suspect's real name is unknown.

 

[matou]

Did police check his knife/knives? So many questions and the police did make many errors in the initial investigation. JMO

If Mr T is not his real name, it could be the same initials since I've read many news reports where young offenders name's were published as their REAL intials only. So possibly MT or what Makin used in his book, DM? Hmmmm so frustrating but it makes sense that his real name would not be published.

 

[Woodland]

The true initials are MT. It's out there if one looks hard enough.

 

[matou]

So DM aka Mr. T was almost 16 year old when Christine went missing. He was 15 years old at the time. His year of birth is likely 1968. He would be turning 44 this year.

 

[matou]

Where did MT go to high school? Keswick High School? This would make sense since going in this direction, north of Queensville, would pass by Ravenshoe Road. Hmmmm.

 

[Mistysues]

So DM aka Mr. T was almost 16 year old when Christine went missing. He was 15 years old at the time. His year of birth is likely 1968. He would be turning 44 this year.

Just a follow up thought, Licence requirements were 16 in 1984. How would Mr.T have brought CJ to the area in which her body was found. Also if a family car was used, then one could assume that an adult or older person is aware of what happened. Also I am curious if Mr. T was friends with KJ? Does anyone know?

 

[matou]

Just a follow up thought, Licence requirements were 16 in 1984. How would Mr.T have brought CJ to the area in which her body was found. Also if a family car was used, then one could assume that an adult or older person is aware of what happened. Also I am curious if Mr. T was friends with KJ? Does anyone know?

According to Deadpanman's post about Mr. T, he had taken the family car on the day Christine disappeared (from a tip submitted from someone who knew the family, from Makin's book).

 

[matou]

Here is a CBC digital archive released just after her body was found.

http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categori...da/christine-jessop-queensville-ont-1984.html

 

[Mistysues]

Yeah I did read that, but I'm thinking if I am going to kidnap, rape and murder a 9 year who's got a large group of people looking for her and therefore a higher police presence, I'm not going to drive underage without a license or a licensed driver, just in case I get pulled over....it's possible I suppose but I'm doubting it. Just something to think about with that scenario.