Canada - Christine Jessop, 9, Queensville, Ont, 3 Oct 1984 - #2 *killer identified*

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Basic summary of the case:

October 3, 1984. At approximately 3:50 pm, Christine Jessop got off her school bus on Leslie Street, just north of the main intersection in Queensville, Ontario. She was most likely excited about her new acquisition – a plastic recorder (a whistle-like musical instrument) given to her that day by her school teacher. She had apparently made plans to meet her classmate, Leslie Chipman at the park (just east of the main intersection and near the corner store) around 4 pm.

Christine picked up her family's mail and bounded up the lane and into her home. No one was there. Her father (Bob) was serving time in a correctional facility. Her mother (Janet) was out running errands with Christine’s older brother (Ken).

According to witness testimony, at some point between 4:00 and 4:30 pm, Christine strolled into the convenience store located at the intersection south of her home on Leslie Street and bought some gum.

Leslie Chipman, who had apparently called Christine’s house shortly after she got off the school bus and got no answer there, went to the park to await Christine. Christine never showed up.

When Janet and Ken Jessop arrived home at about 4:10 pm, they saw Christine’s bicycle where she normally kept it – but it was in a fallen state with some minor damage. Her book bag was on the kitchen counter, as well as the mail.

Unable to find Christine, they called her friends and searched the neighbourhood and the nearby park. She was nowhere to be found. Sometime between seven and eight o’clock, Janet called police and a massive search for the little girl began.

On December 31, 1984, Christine’s body was found at the edge of a farmer’s filed near Sunderland, a community 40 km east of Queensville.

Details of the crime scene according to the “Kaufman Report” (CHAPTER V):

“Her body was on its back and decomposed. Her legs were spread apart in an unnatural position and her knees were spread outward. Animals appeared to have eaten at the legs. Her head was pointed north and her feet south. A sweater was pulled over her head. A few bones were scattered between her head and what remained of her legs, giving the appearance that her head and waist were not connected. The victim was wearing a beige turtleneck sweater, a blue pullover sweater, a blouse on which some buttons were missing and two pairs of socks. Her panties were found at her right foot. Blue corduroy pants with a belt and a pair of Nike running shoes were found just south of her feet. These clothes were subsequently identified as belonging to Christine. Her school recorder, with her name still taped on it, was found next to her body. The hand-knitted blue sweater with the zippered front and no collar, which she was last reported wearing, was not found on the body; nor was it ever located.”

Christine had been killed by multiple stab wounds to the upper body.

In 1995, DNA from the semen found on her underwear was used to exonerate a Queensville man who had been wrongly convicted of her murder (Guy Paul Morin). A subsequent inquiry into the matter revealed numerous police blunders and misconduct during the investigation, contaminated evidence, and fabricated witness testimony.

Christine Jessop’s murder remains unsolved to this day.

I am confused.
The victim was wearing a beige turtleneck sweater, a blue pullover sweater, a blouse on which some buttons were missing and two pairs of socks. Her panties were found at her right foot. Blue corduroy pants with a belt and a pair of Nike running shoes were found just south of her feet. These clothes were subsequently identified as belonging to Christine. Her school recorder, with her name still taped on it, was found next to her body. The hand-knitted blue sweater with the zippered front and no collar, which she was last reported wearing, was not found on the body; nor was it ever located.”
Are we to believe on the day she went missing, she was wearing to and from school 3 sweaters a blouse corduroy pants with belt and only the hand knitted blue sweater not found? At first i thought only the pants belt and shoes, socks and panties were identified as belonging to her but not the turtleneck or blue pullover sweater. I don't think she wore three sweaters, blouse and corduroys to school that day. IF ALL of the clothing mentioned above was later identified as belonging to her, than i suspect at some point after arriving at home, she decided to go play outside and added the layers of clothing. The corduroys first, than the blouse over the corduroys but not stuck inside the pants, than the turtleneck sweater than the pullover sweater. She was planning on spending some time outside, either at the park that was reported early on with a friend, or perhaps she was planning on going to the cemetery as she had done on previous occasions.

IF, the story WAS true, about meeting a friend at the park. She may had thought she would be meeting this friend at the corner store first, than going to the park. But the friend was not there at the store, so she went back home.

Unless the animals were responsible for separating the clothing from the body,(could explain why the sweater was found pulled over her head if an animal was trying to drag it away) then he had to have made two trips. One to lay the body down, and the second trip to retrieve the pants and shoes......I am guessing the panties were found around the ankle part of the foot.

afterthought...Done editing.
If ALL the clothing is correct and is hers, Christine was not just dressing to go outside and play after-school.
Christine also was dressing pretty/cute to possibly meet someone close by. Someone whom was kind and shown her some affection over time, someone she thought of as a friend. And I don't think it was to meet a classmate at the park to play with there dolls.

 

[matou]

It is weird about all the upper body clothing, sweaters and such. Her coat was hanging on the top hook, from what I remember reading. Did she wear a coat to school that day? I remember that her coat was on a hook that was up high, from what I remember reading. Also, did she layer up to "protect" herself and make removal of the layers more difficult, as if she could have known in advance that someone would want to remove her clothing?

 

[KJessop]

Christine changed clothes 10x a day(not literally) That morning was cool and after school was like indian summer. The pink coat was found on a much higher hook than she could reach, hinting at someone she knew and trusted. The desription of the man driving the car matches JP exactly.
She was never going to the park, she regularly went to the store for candy. Remember it was less than a 5 minute bike ride down the main drag and... 28 years ago when small towns were considered safe bastions away from the bad city. Will try to answer more.

 

[KJessop]

Christine often bulked up on clothing because she was so tiny and self conscious about it.

 

[KJessop]

Several things you say here are new to me Ken and help to fill in a whole bunch of background I have never been able to get my head around. I start to get a bigger and better picture. I understand why you believe and are adamant the suspect you speak. I also saw a glimmer of reconcilitaion possible. Glad to have heard that said, hope it carries on in private. After all it is just whoever killed Christine that everyone seeks, no matter whether it be your suspect, W's, Dpm's, mine or anyone elses. None of that matters.

Making the best case for the best suspect to gain the best result could begin here. Filling in and fleshing out Dedpanman's timeline a good start.

I believe, but would love to be wrong, if it mean't the person who did it being identified. Thats why I am here. You are hearing a lot because of the only record being quoted. I have lived this since 1984. And have the transcripts etc to back it up. I do not post page and paragraph. I want the truth. We were led astray once. Pls believe what I say is on the record. Thank god someone found the link about the Horwoods.... I had been searching....

We are here to find the truth.
Ken Jessop

 

[KJessop]

JP died b4 2004

 

[KJessop]

1. I would be interested to know from anyone whether the H.'s sighting of the Buick conflicts with the various suspects including JP. What is remarkable about the Horwood sighting is not that they saw a man fighting with a child holding it down but that they actually followed the car in a town of 500 that is something very remarkable on any day let alone at the exact time more or less that a child is taken and killed. Defies odds unless they are lying outright which of course did happen in this case elsewhere. I give the Horwoods sighting very high credence.

Did any of the suspects named here have a blue Buick or a car that could be mistaken for one should that not be possible to ascertain still?

2. Swarthy, 40s, if we were looking for a close to pure chance drive by abduction OR someone who was in a network of some sort that "named" Christine as gullible/abusable then that description fits D.M. Howe in the Sharin Keenan case. That is the exact description "swarthy" of him in the Jan Sibelius park Toronto and the right age, strange. Dishevelled etc. doesn't fit but if he was living rough following the events of 1983 then possible.

Yes I realize there are better MUCH closer suspects on the other hand he, whoever he is exactly I have some doubts there, did kill a child in January 1983 whereas with all other suspects we have the reality that they apparently didn't even though it might seem likely that they would. I know in that case people say many things with assurance like Howe left the province could not have stayed close none of that is really known for sure IMO. As someone said on that thread he was a "slippery eel" a shape-shifter. DNA surely doesn't match or we would know (?) but given the abuse meted out to CJ of which we possibly only know a bit about that is less crucial than usual............

Is it possible that cause of death for CJ was strangulation or is that impossible? I understand the other terrible injuries.

JP drove a blue olds. Same box boat shape and often mistaken.
Was in his 40's would have just gotten off work at the co-op looking dirty and such.
He worked in the mill not in the store, so always dirty from seed and such.
Because of the decap. the could never say if she was strangled, opening bags at the mill he constantly wore a sharp knife. Don't forget that her face had been smashed, orbital bone fracture. So if she was struggling and he was pushing her down, inevitably and punch would subdue her. Causing that injury.
The Horwoods reported immediately, but when Durham took over and Cast eye on Morin, who drove a honda, they lost the file from YRP. As Durham blamed york for so many lost files that didn't fit morin.

 

[Tadpole12]

KJesssop,

As early as Oct 8 1984, your father was quoted, saying that "Christine may have willingly accepted a ride from a stranger who would promise to take her to see me (in jail)"


http://websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27595&d=1350948431

Did your dad or family suspect JP from the beginning?

 

[Dedpanman]

KJessop? What do you think of the timeline/scenario that was posted back in post#9?

KJessop, does this work for you?
See above.

 

[KJessop]

KJesssop,

As early as Oct 8 1984, your father was quoted, saying that "Christine may have willingly accepted a ride from a stranger who would promise to take her to see me (in jail)"


http://websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27595&d=1350948431

Did your dad or family suspect JP from the beginning?

I think that is just the press printing sentational quotes based on my fathers quilt having just being released, not being there to protect her.
Cause in another quote he states Christine was taught not to talk or take rides from strangers.
As I have quoted many many times, only for people knew he was in jail. And the jacket says it was someone she trusted. Remember at the time of the interview, he had just been released. And while in still, he was interogated about the potential of him having her taken to get him out. My mother was questioned the same way. Remember, it was 28 years ago. Before victims were helped. If you read the article in context you will see what i am saying. Just the ludicrous statement that a stranger could lure her with that. If it was a stranger, they wouldn't know about it.. See?

 

[Tadpole12]

ty, KJessop, yes I do see how distorted the news clippings and books can be, so is it the same case with the mention of the missing blue sweater?

 

[KJessop]

KJessop, does this work for you?
See above.

Having trouble finding the #9 quote sorry.
Chipman, lied. And stated so at the inquiry. I have mentioned point blank why, She was Christines bully. I don't want to go to deep why because she is not here to defend herself. I will if I have to, deeper than just saying she was a lost little girl looking for attention. As was Kim W. who claimed to she her that day.
A lot of young people in the town tried to get interviewed cause back then being seen on tv was the most awesome....

Chipman was bullied due to her homelife till Christine came along. Then she became the bully.
Why do you think she bawled at the inquiry and kept saying she didn't remember. Guilt. She was living with the guilt of bullying a dead girl.
I feel sorry for her, but not for what she did to Christine the summer and fall of84. Or the things she said to press and such to smear Christines name.

Like saying they were meeting the were meeting to play with cabbage patch dolls. Christine NEVER left the house. It was her private friend. Christine didn't play dolls. Sports, chasing frogs, catching worms... Thats what she did... She hated dolls.
When I first heard she was meeting Chipman, I was worried she was being played again, when I heard Chipman state it was to play dolls, even at 14 I called bs, and told the cops. And had to make a huge statement to york as I am now to you all.
When Morin became suspect with Durham so many months later, all of a sudden Chipmans story was back, my statement was gone and now Chipman was telling the standing at the hedge story about morins knuckles white and her being scared....
Admitted a lie to the inquiry.
That is why I state her story is at the least wrong.

 

[KJessop]

The blue sweater, was just in the confusion of the first days. My mom and I both thought she would have been wearing the pink jacket as it wasn't with her stuff when we got home. When the jacket was found on the high hook, the cops set in with did she wear others, etc. That first night they were trying to break my mother, and me... They kapt thinking we had her hiding to get my dad out of jail. It was mass confusion. They jacket was found b4 she was. In the house somewhere or at our grandparents.....
But it had no role after she was found.

 

[Dedpanman]

Sorry, KJessop, it's post #11. It used to be 9 but they added some posts from the old thread and it got bumped.

Here it is again:


Using the information from KJessop, I’ll attempt to sketch out a scenario of Christine’s movements and what actually occurred on October 3, 1984.

And, KJessop –feel free to correct me wherever you feel I have made errors or have gone too far with my imagination.

Christine got off her school bus at approximately 3:45/3:50 pm.

She went into the house, dropped off the mail she had gathered from the end of the driveway as well as her school bag. Shortly thereafter, Christine got onto her bicycle and rode to the corner store to get some gum.

Christine did not go to the park or intend to meet Leslie Chipman at the park because the two of them were not on friendly terms. Leslie Chipman’s claims – that she and Christine had agreed to meet at the park with their Cabbage Patch dolls was, at best, a fabrication -- or a creative embellishment on her part. Since Christine’s doll was found in her room at home – this indicates that she never intended to meet Leslie in the park.

After purchasing her gum at the store, Christine rode her bicycle back to the house, at which point she encountered JP in a blue car waiting at the end of the Jessop driveway. Christine knew JP or knew of his acquaintance with her father (Bob Jessop) so she felt at ease with him or there was a certain amount of trust with him.

JP spoke to Christine and likely told her that he intended to go visit her father at the detention center right then -- and would she like to come with him? Christine leapt at the chance, hurried up the driveway to the house, and in her hurry - did not secure her bicycle properly in the back shed.

JP waited in the blue car for her at the end of the driveway (or, perhaps he drove his car up to the house?).

Christine fetched her recorder from within the house (to show her father?) and then got into the blue car with JP and they drove off together. Christine’s bicycle fell over on its own after they left, or it fell over as Christine hurried to the car in the hopes of soon seeing her dad. In her excitement, she did not think to leave a note for her mother.

When Kenney and Janet Jessop arrived home, they found Christine’s bike in a fallen state and the house empty.

KJessop, do you agree with this scenario? If not, where should it be modified in your opinion?

 

[Tadpole12]

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[KJessop]

I think for the theory you are pretty much right on, but he was in the house waiting for her, hung her jacket up and waited for her to grab the recorder to show her dad. Because she left the recorder there to get gum. Her CB doll was found in her room, She knew I was taking the medals I had won the night b4 in baseball. That was the huge arguement. So for her to drop the bike run to grab the recorder she had gotten just that day, I believe shows she was duped by someone who knew the sit. Then by going the wrong way, she started fussing and he tried pushing her down. and was seen. Then out of frustration he punched her causing the facial injuries. If it was a stranger, why would she be sitting in the front seat with the recorder? She would be in the trunk, or at least subdued in the house.

 

[KJessop]

Sorry not in the house waiting.. But went up the driveway and waited when seeing her coming up the road. He did it friendly, or the recorder wouldn't have come.

 

[Dedpanman]

Okay, thanks. I'm going to modify that scenario in the next few days and add those details. We can keep modifying it as we go.

 

[Dedpanman]

KJessop, do you feel that JP could have taken Christine someplace to… harm her, etc., before taking her to the Culls’ property, or do you feel he went directly there…?

 

[Dedpanman]

And, just to clarify... you stated on thread 1 that JP's daughters were on a school bus riding by on Leslie street and saw his car in the driveway, correct? Or, do I have some of that wrong?