CANADA Canada - Clifford Sherwood, 9, Verdun, QC, 21 Oct 1954

  • #41

Circumstances of Disappearance
Sherwood disappeared on his way to school with his friend, Georges Gumbley. At the time, Clifford was living alone with his mother in Verdun. His father had the custody of Clifford’s four sisters and they were all living in the Vancouver area.

He is thought to have been abducted by his now-deceased non-custodial father. He was estranged from Clifford's mother and lived in B.C. when Clifford vanished.

Clifford had a distinct stutter and made a puzzling phone call to his aunt the next day. "He said: 'Auntie, Auntie Hilda!' Then the line went dead.

The military record of Clifford Sherwood's father was set to become public property in April of 2006 (he died in April of 1976). Mr. Sherwood enlisted in the army under another name and received his military pension under that name; also, he listed himself as a bachelor, and after his death, his daughter tried to have the file opened but failed because she couldn't prove she was his daughter.
 
  • #42
Next month will mark 70 years missing...

1

Clifford Edward Sherwood, age 9
Missing since 21 October 1954
 
  • #43
Next month will mark 70 years missing...

1

Clifford Edward Sherwood, age 9
Missing since 21 October 1954
And we are still searching for answers.
 
  • #44

Circumstances of Disappearance
Sherwood disappeared on his way to school with his friend, Georges Gumbley. At the time, Clifford was living alone with his mother in Verdun. His father had the custody of Clifford’s four sisters and they were all living in the Vancouver area.

He is thought to have been abducted by his now-deceased non-custodial father. He was estranged from Clifford's mother and lived in B.C. when Clifford vanished.

Clifford had a distinct stutter and made a puzzling phone call to his aunt the next day. "He said: 'Auntie, Auntie Hilda!' Then the line went dead.

The military record of Clifford Sherwood's father was set to become public property in April of 2006 (he died in April of 1976). Mr. Sherwood enlisted in the army under another name and received his military pension under that name; also, he listed himself as a bachelor, and after his death, his daughter tried to have the file opened but failed because she couldn't prove she was his daughter.
He died in 1986.
 
  • #45

Circumstances of Disappearance
Sherwood disappeared on his way to school with his friend, Georges Gumbley. At the time, Clifford was living alone with his mother in Verdun. His father had the custody of Clifford’s four sisters and they were all living in the Vancouver area.

He is thought to have been abducted by his now-deceased non-custodial father. He was estranged from Clifford's mother and lived in B.C. when Clifford vanished.

Clifford had a distinct stutter and made a puzzling phone call to his aunt the next day. "He said: 'Auntie, Auntie Hilda!' Then the line went dead.

The military record of Clifford Sherwood's father was set to become public property in April of 2006 (he died in April of 1976). Mr. Sherwood enlisted in the army under another name and received his military pension under that name; also, he listed himself as a bachelor, and after his death, his daughter tried to have the file opened but failed because she couldn't prove she was his daughter.
Oops. 1987. My youngest was born in 1988 and I got pregnant in October 1987 and Clifford's father passed in October 1987. My mother always said he was her father reincarnated.
 
  • #46
And we are still searching for answers.


Circumstances of Disappearance
Sherwood disappeared on his way to school with his friend, Georges Gumbley. At the time, Clifford was living alone with his mother in Verdun. His father had the custody of Clifford’s four sisters and they were all living in the Vancouver area.

He is thought to have been abducted by his now-deceased non-custodial father. He was estranged from Clifford's mother and lived in B.C. when Clifford vanished.

Clifford had a distinct stutter and made a puzzling phone call to his aunt the next day. "He said: 'Auntie, Auntie Hilda!' Then the line went dead.

The military record of Clifford Sherwood's father was set to become public property in April of 2006 (he died in April of 1976). Mr. Sherwood enlisted in the army under another name and received his military pension under that name; also, he listed himself as a bachelor, and after his death, his daughter tried to have the file opened but failed because she couldn't prove she was his daughter.
I have been trying to get the torso excused, but I keep running into issues with the Montreal police. When I have sent formal freedom of information request, I keep getting replies back in French and I am not bilingual. I have spoken to someone who said they understand me, but gave me incorrect information. I have been trying for over 5 years to have dna testing done on the torso. If that is not the torso of George Gumbley, his family and mine have a right to know.
 
  • #47
Hi Clifford's Niece.
Welcome to Websleuths. I am very sorry what you and your family are going through with Clifford.
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Thank you,
Tricia
 
  • #48
Bumping this thread up.
 
  • #49
Hello all, this is an old case for certain. I am a cousin of George Gumbley and want to add a bit of information to the data listed here. As per the family members also here, George Gumbley is the correct name. His parents were Dorothy and Herbert Gumbley. George had one older half sister, still alive I believe, and two brothers. One brother just died in 2022.

There has not been much information listed on where the potential accident (if that is what happened) could have taken place. George and his family lived on 1st Avenue in Verdun, and according to the families of both of these young boys, they were on their way to Bannantyne Elementary School the morning they went missing. Bannantyne Elementary School was located at the corner of Galt and Bannantyne avenues. Galt runs parallel to 1st Avenue and is just four blocks over to the east, so this was not a far walk for the boys. This was a regular occurrence for the boys to walk to school and this was a well developed residential area with some shops and corner stores, which, in my opinion, would imply that it would not have been easy for the boys to have been kidnapped in that area. There has been some speculation that the boys may have skipped school and gone to Angrignon Park to go to a fishing hole in the park. This would have been over 25 blocks in the other direction going west from Galt Ave. I had been told that George's parents had wanted the lake in the park dragged but that the police had refused or for some reason could not. This would imply that the parents knew that George in the past had gone there to fish or play. My grandmother, who is a first cousin of George's mother Dorothy, spoke to Dorothy after George had gone missing, and another option that was guessed at, and one that has never been mentioned to date that I have seen, is that the boys may have fallen into the Aqueduc that runs along the north side of Verdun, and may have drowned there. The boys would have needed to walk over one of the bridges that crossed the Aqueduc to in fact reach Angrignon Park, and while the sides of the Aqueduc are fenced in today, I have no idea if they were back in 1954. It is definitely known that people fished in the Aqueduc. The Aqueduc has high concrete sides and if you fell in it would not be easy to get out, you would have to swim a distance to finally reach one of the two ends of the Aqueduc. So if you fell in, there is a good chance you would drown unless you were a strong swimmer. One of the boys may have fallen in and they other tried to help him get out and also fell in. If this happened we can guess that they would have been able to tread water for a short time and try to yell for help, but I do not know if they would have been heard. I have no idea of the currents or how the water moves in the Aqueduc and if those factors make this option for where the boys might have drowned impossible, but I know growing up whenever we drove along the Aqueduc my grandmother would say this is where George drowned. If they had drowned in the Aqueduc would it have logically been that their bodies would have floated to one end or the other is also something I do not know. Nonetheless, the Aqueduc or Angrignon Park seem to me better options than the St. Lawrence River to the south.

I would very much support having a DNA test done on the torso that was found if that is possible. The police records should state where that was buried. This would help to put that mystery to rest and perhaps even solve one of the two mysteries of the missing boys. If I can be of any help please let me know.

George's mother died in 1982 and his father died in 1970. From what I understand they let George rest in peace and tried to move on with their lives but I am sure he was always in their minds, and the lack of certainty with what had happened must have been a burden they carried the rest of their lives.
 
  • #50
Hello all, this is an old case for certain. I am a cousin of George Gumbley and want to add a bit of information to the data listed here. As per the family members also here, George Gumbley is the correct name. His parents were Dorothy and Herbert Gumbley. George had one older half sister, still alive I believe, and two brothers. One brother just died in 2022.

There has not been much information listed on where the potential accident (if that is what happened) could have taken place. George and his family lived on 1st Avenue in Verdun, and according to the families of both of these young boys, they were on their way to Bannantyne Elementary School the morning they went missing. Bannantyne Elementary School was located at the corner of Galt and Bannantyne avenues. Galt runs parallel to 1st Avenue and is just four blocks over to the east, so this was not a far walk for the boys. This was a regular occurrence for the boys to walk to school and this was a well developed residential area with some shops and corner stores, which, in my opinion, would imply that it would not have been easy for the boys to have been kidnapped in that area. There has been some speculation that the boys may have skipped school and gone to Angrignon Park to go to a fishing hole in the park. This would have been over 25 blocks in the other direction going west from Galt Ave. I had been told that George's parents had wanted the lake in the park dragged but that the police had refused or for some reason could not. This would imply that the parents knew that George in the past had gone there to fish or play. My grandmother, who is a first cousin of George's mother Dorothy, spoke to Dorothy after George had gone missing, and another option that was guessed at, and one that has never been mentioned to date that I have seen, is that the boys may have fallen into the Aqueduc that runs along the north side of Verdun, and may have drowned there. The boys would have needed to walk over one of the bridges that crossed the Aqueduc to in fact reach Angrignon Park, and while the sides of the Aqueduc are fenced in today, I have no idea if they were back in 1954. It is definitely known that people fished in the Aqueduc. The Aqueduc has high concrete sides and if you fell in it would not be easy to get out, you would have to swim a distance to finally reach one of the two ends of the Aqueduc. So if you fell in, there is a good chance you would drown unless you were a strong swimmer. One of the boys may have fallen in and they other tried to help him get out and also fell in. If this happened we can guess that they would have been able to tread water for a short time and try to yell for help, but I do not know if they would have been heard. I have no idea of the currents or how the water moves in the Aqueduc and if those factors make this option for where the boys might have drowned impossible, but I know growing up whenever we drove along the Aqueduc my grandmother would say this is where George drowned. If they had drowned in the Aqueduc would it have logically been that their bodies would have floated to one end or the other is also something I do not know. Nonetheless, the Aqueduc or Angrignon Park seem to me better options than the St. Lawrence River to the south.

I would very much support having a DNA test done on the torso that was found if that is possible. The police records should state where that was buried. This would help to put that mystery to rest and perhaps even solve one of the two mysteries of the missing boys. If I can be of any help please let me know.

George's mother died in 1982 and his father died in 1970. From what I understand they let George rest in peace and tried to move on with their lives but I am sure he was always in their minds, and the lack of certainty with what had happened must have been a burden they carried the rest of their lives.

Welcome to Websleuths. Thank you for your information regarding the family. Hopefully some answers can be forthcoming.
 
  • #51
If they went missing together, George Gumbley should be added to the thread title.
 

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