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It has to be a typo. Queen and Barton is on the west side of Hamilton.
GUILTY Canada - Diane Werendowicz, 23, raped & murdered, Hamilton, Ont, June 1981
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It has to be a typo. Queen and Barton is on the west side of Hamilton.
I did some hunting (see date Feb 27, 2014 from link below):
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=113093068745895&story_fbid=625237707531426
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/24...32df999f2986a7a4!8m2!3d43.2675719!4d-79.87662
Here's the thing, we are spending time analyzing the bar part but perhaps we should start with the crime scene instead and work backwards.
Heck, maybe she did take a taxi. The only person saying he saw her walking was the accused.
A) I hope they checked taxi records
B) I wonder if they checked out the make of the tire? Maybe it was taken from the perps own truck?
I hope they checked taxi records as well... at the time.. even to see if there had been a call placed for a pickup at the Malarkeys location at that time.. although I guess even if there had been a call for a cab, it wouldn't mean anything since in the meantime while waiting for the cab, she could have agreed to go and smoke a joint with RB.
I wonder if the location where DW's body was found was accessible by vehicle?
I have wondered too. Since we don't know the exact location, we can only guess.
I had a revelation during my sleep or in between sleep sleuthing. Seems I can't turn my mind off. I hope all these revelations help someone with something. Anyhow here it is:
It's important to know what was at the crime scene, but can be equally important what wasn't there, such as:
a) KEYS, she was walking home. In those days we used keys to get into our apt buildings. She would have had keys. Could the perp have stolen them and his motive was theft?
b) WALLET - I think Deugirtni was sleuthing that. Did you find anything? We learned there was a $1 bill. Heck, maybe that's the perp's trademark, to leave $1 with the vic. She was at the bar. She would have taken money and ID.
c) WATCH - My understanding was that nurses always wore watches which they used to take blood pressure. She didn't have much time before shift end and going out. Did she take her watch off?
d) EARRINGS - Many girls had pierced ears by then. When I go out, I wear earrings. Did she have any on?
As you can see, I'm wondering if the motive for murder was robbery, made to look like robbery, or if the perp maybe took souvenirs.
It's important to know what was at the crime scene, but can be equally important what wasn't there, such as:
a) KEYS, she was walking home. In those days we used keys to get into our apt buildings. She would have had keys. Could the perp have stolen them and his motive was theft?
b) WALLET - I think Deugirtni was sleuthing that. Did you find anything? We learned there was a $1 bill. Heck, maybe that's the perp's trademark, to leave $1 with the vic. She was at the bar. She would have taken money and ID.
c) WATCH - My understanding was that nurses always wore watches which they used to take blood pressure. She didn't have much time before shift end and going out. Did she take her watch off?
d) EARRINGS - Many girls had pierced ears by then. When I go out, I wear earrings. Did she have any on?
As you can see, I'm wondering if the motive for murder was robbery, made to look like robbery, or if the perp maybe took souvenirs.
The robbery idea I was thinking, maybe she did almost make it home and that's where she was mugged and dragged into the ditch. Easy target--drunk girl. I don't know why mugging would turn to murder, however.
SC Tweet Oct 14, 2016.
This confused me. RB must have changed schools. His own social media account says he went to Orchard Park. Also DR went to Orchard Park.
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2528196-unsolved-excerpt-the-lucky-one-/
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2528196-unsolved-excerpt-the-lucky-one-/
Found this interesting article where BM's former girlfriend ID'd him as the 911 caller also puts BM as a frequenter at Malarkey's bar.
I think in one article it said BM said he didn't know DW. But they lived in the same building, frequented the same bar. Maybe he never talked to her but they very well likely passed each other often.
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2113923-witness-claims-voice-on-tape-not-badgerow-s/
I think in one article it said BM said he didn't know DW. But they lived in the same building, frequented the same bar. Maybe he never talked to her but they very well likely passed each other often.
2012 article http://www.metronews.ca/news/hamilton/2012/09/07/what-the-badgerow-juries-were-never-told.html
Now adding to possible theories.
I guess 6 above is Brian, not Steve.
7. RB picked up buddy BM from Stelco. Maybe saw drunk DW headed for apt. Maybe offered her a ride, jumped out and grabbed her, simply grabbed her from her apt entrance as she was heading in, or were parked smoking up along the route and she recognized BM and they invited her to join in....did this shinanigan together, BM did the phone call being younger and more naive. Sworn to secrecy.
I guess 6 above is Brian, not Steve.
7. RB picked up buddy BM from Stelco. Maybe saw drunk DW headed for apt. Maybe offered her a ride, jumped out and grabbed her, simply grabbed her from her apt entrance as she was heading in, or were parked smoking up along the route and she recognized BM and they invited her to join in....did this shinanigan together, BM did the phone call being younger and more naive. Sworn to secrecy.
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One thing jumped out at me and it may be the least important detail, but thinking of Diane found with one dollar in her pocket, am reminded of Sharin Morningstar Keenan, young girl murdered by the elusive (still) D.M.Howe. fwiw.
https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/..._most_wanted_fugitive_dennis_melvyn_howe.html
https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/..._most_wanted_fugitive_dennis_melvyn_howe.html
Wow dotr, that is worth cross referencing. I gasped when I looked up Howe's photo and saw this--dude with black hair and mustache just like these in this crime:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/wanted
As far as the wallet, there is this, from the appeal by the Crown on the staying of RB's charges:
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...sg=AFQjCNFZVPctXuAYuDgnQgMxyeF9MeuFtw&cad=rja
Good catch that her both her keys and her ID were missing. It would have been likely for her to have carried her ID with her since she could have been asked to produce proof she was of drinking age. So with the ID the murderer would have had her address, and with her keys would have had unfettered access to her apartment. Why would the murderer take her keys if not to access her apartment before her body was found? I wonder if police forensically searched her apartment for any clues?
And yes, she would have required cash. I'm not sure when debit cards became popular, but even so, didn't people continue to use cash at bars for ease of tipping, etc? Was there a 'tip option' on
machines in 1981? Is that perhaps why DW seemed in a hurry to get out of the bar so quickly, rather than waiting for her friend to drive her home - because she'd run out of cash and couldn't buy any more beer? Or did her murderer steal money from her purse? I wonder if police checked her bank records??Note: in 1981 the legal drinking age in Ontario was 19, however lots of people older than that would still get asked for ID: "Closer to home, an Ontario study conducted in 1981, two years after the legal drinking age was raised to 19 from 18, showed virtually identical results." http://www.queensjournal.ca/story/2004-07-27/editorials/let-them-drink/
Note2: I also see there are a few capsules there, I wonder what those were?
eta: in this news article it says 'keys' were in the purse?
"Gzik gently spills them out for the jury to see: a $1 bill, a small bottle of Nivea cream, sunglasses, a hairbrush, a nail file, keys, loose change, a bobby pin. Still there in the purse, as if ready to be grabbed on the way out the door."
http://www.waterloochronicle.ca/new...-blood-belongings-on-display-at-murder-trial/
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Good point about the watch also, although she did go home after her work shift that day, before she went to the bar, so could have taken it off... but.... why would she? Wouldn't she perhaps want to keep her eye on the time? Or was she afraid her watch might get damaged, so took it off to go to the busy bar?
Was theft ever considered as a potential motive?
I don't recall reading anything about earrings at all. I don't know what year it happened in, but virtually all women have pierced ears... did they back in 1981 too?
Trial feeds Kitchener, October 17, 2016, Robert Badgerow, Tweets by Susan Clairmont.
* Please note this is a rough edit, and you should refer to original if any questions.https://twitter.com/susanclairmont Read top down.
Back at the Robert #Badgerow murder trial.
Jurors are being brought in.
Crown Gzik is calling Mark Hawkins to the stand.
June 1981 he was a civilian forensic analyst with @OPP_News.
He had 12 years experience in 1981.
He analyzed crime scene evidence, including fingerprints.
Gzik putting Hawkins' original report on the big screen.
It's the Scenes of Crime Exhibit Form.
It is done in his own handwriting.
suede leather wallet and contents business card and paper found on ground near wallet tote bag or purse, nylon, beige.
found in creek and air dried pill containers. phone receiver, metal cord cut.
...Dofasco steel mill...used by unknown suspect who used phone to call police...tire, Firestone...found on top of body...
These were some of the items sent to him for analysis.
Paper bags from Diane's purse were air dried, Hawkins says.
"Brown paper bag containing papers from purse. " Unclear to me if the bags were in the purse or just the papers.
Diane's maroon suede leather wallet contained her McMaster hospital ID and her RNA card.
Going through all the personal ID etc.Also receipts, insurance slips, a photo and a clipped magazine article.
Seeing photos of some of papers found in the wallet including an A & P receipt.
envelope from @TheSpec, @CanadianTire money, a recipe for "puff pies" and a Eurorail pass.
Also pay stubs, receipt from @ToyotaMotorCorp, @Allstate insurance slips, @Visa receipts.
He examined pieces of paper for fingerprints."Several of the articles had been submerged in water," he says.
He found two partial impressions on a "Lady Fitness" receipt, he says.
Even if an item has been touch, there may not always be fingerprints, court hears.
Received a phone receiver from @HamiltonPolice.Gzik is putting on blue latex gloves and picking up a brown paper bag, marked with ident #.
Court now seeing the actual blue phone receiver cut from the booth at Dofasco.
He was unable to get an identifying prints from the receiver.Got four partial prints, but could not identify them.
Hawkins sent one partial impression from phone to @rcmpgrcpolice but they could not identify it either.
Hawkins report is made an exhibit.
We're seeing two partial impressions on the fitness receipt.
Crown is done. Now cross-exam by Ingrid Grant.Asking if smooth, hard surface texture is better for prints? Answer is yes.
Fingerprints can often be seen with the naked eye, Hawkins says.
Phone receiver would be a good surface for prints? Yes.
He believes the items he examined were "at some time" returned to police. Including the Firestone tire.
His report from July 27, 1981 catalogs the 4 partial impressions on phone. One is sent to RCMP. Why only 1?
Why only 1? He believes the items he examined were "at some time" returned to police.
He says it was only one suitable for analysis. Believed it was print from baby finger, but @rcmp database didn't store baby finger prints.
Defence done.No re-exam. Witness is done.
Next witness is Stephanie Howard. She is an @OPP_News fingerprint examiner.Gzik is seeking to qualify her as an expert.
She is a senior forensic analyst. Been with @OPP_News since 1988. She was at Scotland Yard before that.
Justice Patrick Flynn qualifies Howard as an expert fingerprint examiner.
Some surfaces are susceptible to fingerprints that others, she says. Also condition of a person's hands can be a factor.
Dry hands produce worse fingerprints.
she received copy of Diane's fingerprints. They are being made an exhibit.
Diane's fingerprints may have been affected post mortem by fact she had been submerged in water, says Howard.
Plus, Howard only had a photocopy of Diane's prints.
Diane's prints were used as "elimination prints" to separate out rher prints from a suspect's prints.
Seeing a photo of a glass vase and a drinking glass. Gzik is now holding up the actual objects (in evidence bags) in court.
Now seeing @HamiltonPolice photo of coffee table at Diane's apartment with vase of flowers knocked over.
Impossible to tell when a print was made, expert says.
Now we're seeing enlargement of the two impressions from the vase.
One identified as Diane's friend Lori Allan. The other wasn't identified.
No match with Robert #Badgerow or Brian Miller. Could not do a comparison with Diane because her print was not clear enough.
Explaining fuming an exhibit in a vacuum chamber using gold and zinc to coat the exhibit and reveal prints. It's a new process.
I wasn't able to develop any additional fingerprints" from the phone, Howard says.
That new @OPP_News printing process has been used for 3 to 4 years now.
Gzik asks if there is any other fingerprint testing that can be done on phone? Howard says no, they have exhausted their testing options.
"It's not impossible to develop fingerprints on a tire," says Howard, but it's "very difficult."
The tire was found on top of Diane's head and shoulders in the creek. Jury is getting a break.
Jury is back and @OPP_News fingerprint expert Howard is still on the stand.
Crown is done with witness. Grant is on her feet for cross-exam.
Grant is starting with examination of the vase. Howard did a report on that on Feb. 1, 2001. Conclusion there were 2 identifiable prints.
One print was Lori Allan's. Other has not been identified. Howard had #Badgerow print samples at the time.
Exam of Lady Fitness receipt. Report from Howard is from 2010. Was able to conclude prints on the receipt were not left by #Badgerow.
July 31, 2000 report by Howard on phone receiver. Fingerprints had "degraded" by then, but she also had photos taken in 1981 of the prints.
Of the four prints on the phone, two were suitable for comparison. One was palm impression, other was a finger.
Now seeing stitch of phone receiver, showing where prints were found.
She was able to exclude #Badgerow as person who left prints on the phone. But was not able to determine who did leave the prints.
Report eliminates #Badgerow for the palm print, but not the fingerprint.However Howard's notes say he was eliminated for the fingerprint.
New fuming technique for prints was not able to identify any new prints on the receiver.
Grant finished. Gzik up for re-exam. Asking about print "degrading" over time. Expert says environmental factors and handling can do that.
Justice Flynn has question. Why were Diane's fingerprints of an extremely poor quality?
A lot of areas of the prints were missing, she says.
There are "challenges" involved with taking prints from a deceased person, Howard says. She is done on the stand.
Next up is Eugene Kelly.
Badgerow is watching as Kelly is sworn in.
Feb., 20, 1960 is his date of birth. Started working at Dofasco in 1979 and is still there. Married in 1983 to Karen. Two daughters.
Youngest was born Feb. 5, 1988. #Badgerow is her godfather. Eugene met him in hot mill strapping coils.
Crown Gzik is showing Kelly a map of Jerome Cresent apartments. Kelly lived at 70 Jerome with his wife for one year, 1982-3.
Rob lived in 50 Jerome Cres.," says Kelly.
They would carpool to work sometimes.
Kelly met #Badgerow's first wife Tammy, "just once." She worked at a grocery story. They picked her up from work one time.
Does not know how long #Badgerow lived at Jerome Crescent. Did not go to his first wedding.
Went to Badgerow's second wedding in 1987 to Cheryl Kovasik. He was their best man.
They had become friends working at Dofasco together. Travelled to the Dominican Republic together.
Invited "Bob and his new girlfriend Cheryl to come to dinner.
Sometimes calls him Rob or Bob. Usually "Badge." Went to cottage together on Lake Huron. Went to Mexico together.
Badge started dating Kovasik in 1984. "I know he knew Cheryl for quite a while, growing up in Binbrook."
Met Cheryl's brother Randy Kovasik, who was an @HamiltonPolice officer at the time. (Now retired.)
Kelly also golfed with Badge.
After #Badgerow and Cheryl married they moved to Caledonia.
Badgerow lived on Jerome Crescent before Kelly did. Kelly had a one-bedroom apartment. "They were nice apartments at the time."
Celebrated New Years Eve with Cheryl and Bob. Had them over for dinner and they stayed over.
Besides speaking with #Badgerow many, many times in person, they also talked on the phone sometimes.
Kelly explaining how they strapped the coils at Dofasco.
"It's quite hot. Especially in the summertime," says Kelly. Steel is 1,200 F. "It's fairly physical," he says of the job.
When you were working there, you would work an hour on, an hour off. Exhausting work. During break you could go outside.
Worked at Gate 6 of No. 1 Hot Mill.
Outside of Gate 6 was Ottawa Street, train tracks. "There was also the phone booth...just up against the wall."
You just walk out the door and it was to your left," says Kelly. Would take 30 seconds to walk from work area to phone booth.
Kelly using a laser pointer to show on a map of Hot Mill where he and #Badgerow worked exactly.
Kelly says they had to throw straps that were 10 to 15 feet long around the coil.
The straps were not heavy, says Kelly.
Door was located just behind the guard shack on right side of photo, says Kelly.
"The day after Bob was arrested was the first time I actually heard the call," Kelly says of 911 call.
He tried to call 911 hotline several times. "I hear the voice and I knew it was Bob."
Had to hear "very little. I knew it was his voice right away. I threw up. I actually physically threw up."
Kelly was at home. His wife had gone to bed. "I was just so upset by the whole thing. There was some talk at work about this phone..."
Silverstein rises and asks to address the court in the absence of the jury.
We've had very few legal arguments in this trial. Likely because this is the 4th time around and most of those issues have been dealt with.
Jury is back at the Robert #Badgerow murder trial.
Eugene Kelly says the pneumatic guns he had #Badgerow used weight 10-15 pounds each and they used two at a time. Also, they wore gloves.
Hearing the 911 call again. After just one line, Kelly said he recognized #Badgerow's voice when he first heard it.
That hot mill has since been torn down. Seeing photos of it from June 1981.
At end of their shift, "you would hit the showers, get changed and go home," says Kelly. Would walk through the mill to the change room.
Change rooms at Gate 3 and Gate 8. Gate 8 would take 3-5 minutes, Gate 3 were along Beach Road, 8 to 10 minutes. "You would always shower."
It was a dirty, sweaty job, says Kelly. Parked at Depew Road. Worked 8 hour shift. Punched in and out with a card.
Day shift, 6:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. Afternoons, 3-11 p.m.. Nights, 11 p.m. to 6 a.m.
Depew, to Barton, to Lake to Jerome to get home, says Kelly.
That drive was 10 to 15 minutes, depending on time of day, Kelly says. #Badgerow
Kelly went to St. Jean de Brebeuf high school. If he was going to Binbrook: Barton or King to Highway 20, says Kelly.
Kelly would sometimes go to Malarkey's bar in Fiesta Mall. Does not remember ever going there with #Badgerow.
Gave statement to @HamiltonPolice "just after Rob was arrested," Kelly says. Nobody influenced him about who the caller was.
Gzik: "Mr. Kelly do you see Robert #Badgerow in the courtroom today?"
Kelly points at #Badgerow and says "He's right there."
Badgerow seems very agitated.
Crown done, now Silverstein for cross-exam.
In 1981, about 200 guys working at Hot Mill #1.
They only worked together in same part of mill for six months.
Badgerow wasn't nearly as heavy in 1981, says Kelly, but he was strong.
They were acquaintances in 1981. Became good friends after that.
Hot mill was a very noisy area. Trains came in, lots of machinery.
Ear plugs were available to employees because it was so loud, agrees Kelly.
Silverstein suggesting it was noisier than usual at around lunch time. Kelly says no. But then his own previous testimony says otherwise.
Workers wore asbestos coats, aprons, gloves.
Crown Michael Fox's cell phone goes off in the courtroom.Judge: "If it's for me, take a message.
There were phones inside Dofasco that a worker could use, apart from the pay phone boot.
Strapped would work 30 minutes on floor with the hot steel, and then 30 minutes in the "upended booth" and then they got an hour off.
In 1998 posters up at Dofasco that @HamiltonPolice required assistance. Asks people to call the hotline and listen to the 911 call.
Badgerow was arrested the in December 1998. Kelly listened to 911 call after that. Jan. 8, 1999 Kelly gave @HamiltonPolice a statement.
Kelly was at @HamiltonPolice station and coworker Scott Hawkins came in as he was leaving.
In previous testimony Kelly said he knew Hawkins was coming in.
Kelly says it was a Wednesday morning that he called the hotline.
I think it was everything in particular about his voice," says Kelly...
.after Silverstein suggests there was nothing in particular to recognize about #Badgerow's voice.
Silverstein is done. Gzik for re-exam. What did you mean by "everything in particular?"
"I know Bob. And I know Bob's voice...You knew it was him on the phone." And with that, Kelly is done testifying.
Jury is done for the day.
* Please note this is a rough edit, and you should refer to original if any questions.https://twitter.com/susanclairmont Read top down.
Back at the Robert #Badgerow murder trial.
Jurors are being brought in.
Crown Gzik is calling Mark Hawkins to the stand.
June 1981 he was a civilian forensic analyst with @OPP_News.
He had 12 years experience in 1981.
He analyzed crime scene evidence, including fingerprints.
Gzik putting Hawkins' original report on the big screen.
It's the Scenes of Crime Exhibit Form.
It is done in his own handwriting.
suede leather wallet and contents business card and paper found on ground near wallet tote bag or purse, nylon, beige.
found in creek and air dried pill containers. phone receiver, metal cord cut.
...Dofasco steel mill...used by unknown suspect who used phone to call police...tire, Firestone...found on top of body...
These were some of the items sent to him for analysis.
Paper bags from Diane's purse were air dried, Hawkins says.
"Brown paper bag containing papers from purse. " Unclear to me if the bags were in the purse or just the papers.
Diane's maroon suede leather wallet contained her McMaster hospital ID and her RNA card.
Going through all the personal ID etc.Also receipts, insurance slips, a photo and a clipped magazine article.
Seeing photos of some of papers found in the wallet including an A & P receipt.
envelope from @TheSpec, @CanadianTire money, a recipe for "puff pies" and a Eurorail pass.
Also pay stubs, receipt from @ToyotaMotorCorp, @Allstate insurance slips, @Visa receipts.
He examined pieces of paper for fingerprints."Several of the articles had been submerged in water," he says.
He found two partial impressions on a "Lady Fitness" receipt, he says.
Even if an item has been touch, there may not always be fingerprints, court hears.
Received a phone receiver from @HamiltonPolice.Gzik is putting on blue latex gloves and picking up a brown paper bag, marked with ident #.
Court now seeing the actual blue phone receiver cut from the booth at Dofasco.
He was unable to get an identifying prints from the receiver.Got four partial prints, but could not identify them.
Hawkins sent one partial impression from phone to @rcmpgrcpolice but they could not identify it either.
Hawkins report is made an exhibit.
We're seeing two partial impressions on the fitness receipt.
Crown is done. Now cross-exam by Ingrid Grant.Asking if smooth, hard surface texture is better for prints? Answer is yes.
Fingerprints can often be seen with the naked eye, Hawkins says.
Phone receiver would be a good surface for prints? Yes.
He believes the items he examined were "at some time" returned to police. Including the Firestone tire.
His report from July 27, 1981 catalogs the 4 partial impressions on phone. One is sent to RCMP. Why only 1?
Why only 1? He believes the items he examined were "at some time" returned to police.
He says it was only one suitable for analysis. Believed it was print from baby finger, but @rcmp database didn't store baby finger prints.
Defence done.No re-exam. Witness is done.
Next witness is Stephanie Howard. She is an @OPP_News fingerprint examiner.Gzik is seeking to qualify her as an expert.
She is a senior forensic analyst. Been with @OPP_News since 1988. She was at Scotland Yard before that.
Justice Patrick Flynn qualifies Howard as an expert fingerprint examiner.
Some surfaces are susceptible to fingerprints that others, she says. Also condition of a person's hands can be a factor.
Dry hands produce worse fingerprints.
she received copy of Diane's fingerprints. They are being made an exhibit.
Diane's fingerprints may have been affected post mortem by fact she had been submerged in water, says Howard.
Plus, Howard only had a photocopy of Diane's prints.
Diane's prints were used as "elimination prints" to separate out rher prints from a suspect's prints.
Seeing a photo of a glass vase and a drinking glass. Gzik is now holding up the actual objects (in evidence bags) in court.
Now seeing @HamiltonPolice photo of coffee table at Diane's apartment with vase of flowers knocked over.
Impossible to tell when a print was made, expert says.
Now we're seeing enlargement of the two impressions from the vase.
One identified as Diane's friend Lori Allan. The other wasn't identified.
No match with Robert #Badgerow or Brian Miller. Could not do a comparison with Diane because her print was not clear enough.
Explaining fuming an exhibit in a vacuum chamber using gold and zinc to coat the exhibit and reveal prints. It's a new process.
I wasn't able to develop any additional fingerprints" from the phone, Howard says.
That new @OPP_News printing process has been used for 3 to 4 years now.
Gzik asks if there is any other fingerprint testing that can be done on phone? Howard says no, they have exhausted their testing options.
"It's not impossible to develop fingerprints on a tire," says Howard, but it's "very difficult."
The tire was found on top of Diane's head and shoulders in the creek. Jury is getting a break.
Jury is back and @OPP_News fingerprint expert Howard is still on the stand.
Crown is done with witness. Grant is on her feet for cross-exam.
Grant is starting with examination of the vase. Howard did a report on that on Feb. 1, 2001. Conclusion there were 2 identifiable prints.
One print was Lori Allan's. Other has not been identified. Howard had #Badgerow print samples at the time.
Exam of Lady Fitness receipt. Report from Howard is from 2010. Was able to conclude prints on the receipt were not left by #Badgerow.
July 31, 2000 report by Howard on phone receiver. Fingerprints had "degraded" by then, but she also had photos taken in 1981 of the prints.
Of the four prints on the phone, two were suitable for comparison. One was palm impression, other was a finger.
Now seeing stitch of phone receiver, showing where prints were found.
She was able to exclude #Badgerow as person who left prints on the phone. But was not able to determine who did leave the prints.
Report eliminates #Badgerow for the palm print, but not the fingerprint.However Howard's notes say he was eliminated for the fingerprint.
New fuming technique for prints was not able to identify any new prints on the receiver.
Grant finished. Gzik up for re-exam. Asking about print "degrading" over time. Expert says environmental factors and handling can do that.
Justice Flynn has question. Why were Diane's fingerprints of an extremely poor quality?
A lot of areas of the prints were missing, she says.
There are "challenges" involved with taking prints from a deceased person, Howard says. She is done on the stand.
Next up is Eugene Kelly.
Badgerow is watching as Kelly is sworn in.
Feb., 20, 1960 is his date of birth. Started working at Dofasco in 1979 and is still there. Married in 1983 to Karen. Two daughters.
Youngest was born Feb. 5, 1988. #Badgerow is her godfather. Eugene met him in hot mill strapping coils.
Crown Gzik is showing Kelly a map of Jerome Cresent apartments. Kelly lived at 70 Jerome with his wife for one year, 1982-3.
Rob lived in 50 Jerome Cres.," says Kelly.
They would carpool to work sometimes.
Kelly met #Badgerow's first wife Tammy, "just once." She worked at a grocery story. They picked her up from work one time.
Does not know how long #Badgerow lived at Jerome Crescent. Did not go to his first wedding.
Went to Badgerow's second wedding in 1987 to Cheryl Kovasik. He was their best man.
They had become friends working at Dofasco together. Travelled to the Dominican Republic together.
Invited "Bob and his new girlfriend Cheryl to come to dinner.
Sometimes calls him Rob or Bob. Usually "Badge." Went to cottage together on Lake Huron. Went to Mexico together.
Badge started dating Kovasik in 1984. "I know he knew Cheryl for quite a while, growing up in Binbrook."
Met Cheryl's brother Randy Kovasik, who was an @HamiltonPolice officer at the time. (Now retired.)
Kelly also golfed with Badge.
After #Badgerow and Cheryl married they moved to Caledonia.
Badgerow lived on Jerome Crescent before Kelly did. Kelly had a one-bedroom apartment. "They were nice apartments at the time."
Celebrated New Years Eve with Cheryl and Bob. Had them over for dinner and they stayed over.
Besides speaking with #Badgerow many, many times in person, they also talked on the phone sometimes.
Kelly explaining how they strapped the coils at Dofasco.
"It's quite hot. Especially in the summertime," says Kelly. Steel is 1,200 F. "It's fairly physical," he says of the job.
When you were working there, you would work an hour on, an hour off. Exhausting work. During break you could go outside.
Worked at Gate 6 of No. 1 Hot Mill.
Outside of Gate 6 was Ottawa Street, train tracks. "There was also the phone booth...just up against the wall."
You just walk out the door and it was to your left," says Kelly. Would take 30 seconds to walk from work area to phone booth.
Kelly using a laser pointer to show on a map of Hot Mill where he and #Badgerow worked exactly.
Kelly says they had to throw straps that were 10 to 15 feet long around the coil.
The straps were not heavy, says Kelly.
Door was located just behind the guard shack on right side of photo, says Kelly.
"The day after Bob was arrested was the first time I actually heard the call," Kelly says of 911 call.
He tried to call 911 hotline several times. "I hear the voice and I knew it was Bob."
Had to hear "very little. I knew it was his voice right away. I threw up. I actually physically threw up."
Kelly was at home. His wife had gone to bed. "I was just so upset by the whole thing. There was some talk at work about this phone..."
Silverstein rises and asks to address the court in the absence of the jury.
We've had very few legal arguments in this trial. Likely because this is the 4th time around and most of those issues have been dealt with.
Jury is back at the Robert #Badgerow murder trial.
Eugene Kelly says the pneumatic guns he had #Badgerow used weight 10-15 pounds each and they used two at a time. Also, they wore gloves.
Hearing the 911 call again. After just one line, Kelly said he recognized #Badgerow's voice when he first heard it.
That hot mill has since been torn down. Seeing photos of it from June 1981.
At end of their shift, "you would hit the showers, get changed and go home," says Kelly. Would walk through the mill to the change room.
Change rooms at Gate 3 and Gate 8. Gate 8 would take 3-5 minutes, Gate 3 were along Beach Road, 8 to 10 minutes. "You would always shower."
It was a dirty, sweaty job, says Kelly. Parked at Depew Road. Worked 8 hour shift. Punched in and out with a card.
Day shift, 6:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. Afternoons, 3-11 p.m.. Nights, 11 p.m. to 6 a.m.
Depew, to Barton, to Lake to Jerome to get home, says Kelly.
That drive was 10 to 15 minutes, depending on time of day, Kelly says. #Badgerow
Kelly went to St. Jean de Brebeuf high school. If he was going to Binbrook: Barton or King to Highway 20, says Kelly.
Kelly would sometimes go to Malarkey's bar in Fiesta Mall. Does not remember ever going there with #Badgerow.
Gave statement to @HamiltonPolice "just after Rob was arrested," Kelly says. Nobody influenced him about who the caller was.
Gzik: "Mr. Kelly do you see Robert #Badgerow in the courtroom today?"
Kelly points at #Badgerow and says "He's right there."
Badgerow seems very agitated.
Crown done, now Silverstein for cross-exam.
In 1981, about 200 guys working at Hot Mill #1.
They only worked together in same part of mill for six months.
Badgerow wasn't nearly as heavy in 1981, says Kelly, but he was strong.
They were acquaintances in 1981. Became good friends after that.
Hot mill was a very noisy area. Trains came in, lots of machinery.
Ear plugs were available to employees because it was so loud, agrees Kelly.
Silverstein suggesting it was noisier than usual at around lunch time. Kelly says no. But then his own previous testimony says otherwise.
Workers wore asbestos coats, aprons, gloves.
Crown Michael Fox's cell phone goes off in the courtroom.Judge: "If it's for me, take a message.
There were phones inside Dofasco that a worker could use, apart from the pay phone boot.
Strapped would work 30 minutes on floor with the hot steel, and then 30 minutes in the "upended booth" and then they got an hour off.
In 1998 posters up at Dofasco that @HamiltonPolice required assistance. Asks people to call the hotline and listen to the 911 call.
Badgerow was arrested the in December 1998. Kelly listened to 911 call after that. Jan. 8, 1999 Kelly gave @HamiltonPolice a statement.
Kelly was at @HamiltonPolice station and coworker Scott Hawkins came in as he was leaving.
In previous testimony Kelly said he knew Hawkins was coming in.
Kelly says it was a Wednesday morning that he called the hotline.
I think it was everything in particular about his voice," says Kelly...
.after Silverstein suggests there was nothing in particular to recognize about #Badgerow's voice.
Silverstein is done. Gzik for re-exam. What did you mean by "everything in particular?"
"I know Bob. And I know Bob's voice...You knew it was him on the phone." And with that, Kelly is done testifying.
Jury is done for the day.
Well, thank you lawyers and witnesses.
We like corroborating evidence or testimony.
Now we see that call may not have been made on the lunch break, but on the hour on, hour off, relief break. Geesh, that explains a lot.
Also, clarifying the location of the door to the phone booth (right behind the guard house) and clarifying the timeframe to walk to showers since we were estimating what time RB might have gotten either to 70 Jerome area or Fiesta mall the night of June 19 after his shift.
IMO RB easily could have crossed paths with a drunk DW. Didn't even need to be at the bar. Route described was exactly where DW would have walked from what I can tell (didn't see map produced by boyfriend).
Not sure of the dates RB lived at "50 Jerome" but that's just too much.
And thanks for reporting a wallet.
We like corroborating evidence or testimony.
Now we see that call may not have been made on the lunch break, but on the hour on, hour off, relief break. Geesh, that explains a lot.
Also, clarifying the location of the door to the phone booth (right behind the guard house) and clarifying the timeframe to walk to showers since we were estimating what time RB might have gotten either to 70 Jerome area or Fiesta mall the night of June 19 after his shift.
IMO RB easily could have crossed paths with a drunk DW. Didn't even need to be at the bar. Route described was exactly where DW would have walked from what I can tell (didn't see map produced by boyfriend).
Not sure of the dates RB lived at "50 Jerome" but that's just too much.
And thanks for reporting a wallet.
Has it ever been said where RB lived at the time of DW's murder?
EK said he lived at 70 Jerome (same address as DW) in 1982/83 for one year, and that RB lived at 50 Jerome (right across the street?) during that time and also before that, but he isn't sure when he moved in there (or when he left there?) RB moved to Caledonia sometime after marrying his second wife, in 1987.
Yes, agreed, that's just too much that RB also lived on Jerome Cres. RB married TH in April 1982. Would they have moved as newlyweds into 50 Jerome 10 months after DW's murder? Or did he already live there at the time and TH moved into his apartment when they married?
Interesting that there was a vase of flowers in DW's apartment, and even more interesting that the vase was knocked over.
I can't find mention of her friend Lori bringing her flowers that evening? Where did the flowers come from? Did DW buy them? Did someone send them to her for her birthday? Was her bf trying to make up with her and make their relationship 'on again'? Were his prints checked against the ones found on the vase?
Why was the vase knocked over? Did Lori testify in relation to anything to do with the vase of flowers, or whether the vase was intact prior to leaving DW's apartment that night?
I think I read somewhere along the way that apparently DW had a cat? Would the cat have had reason to knock the vase over? Was that something that happened now and then with DW's cat? How soon was it before detectives entered DW's residence to examine?
I can't find mention of her friend Lori bringing her flowers that evening? Where did the flowers come from? Did DW buy them? Did someone send them to her for her birthday? Was her bf trying to make up with her and make their relationship 'on again'? Were his prints checked against the ones found on the vase?
Why was the vase knocked over? Did Lori testify in relation to anything to do with the vase of flowers, or whether the vase was intact prior to leaving DW's apartment that night?
I think I read somewhere along the way that apparently DW had a cat? Would the cat have had reason to knock the vase over? Was that something that happened now and then with DW's cat? How soon was it before detectives entered DW's residence to examine?
It seems we don't know whether RB's vehicle was a truck or a car? It was summarized in a caselaw file that RB said it was a truck (but wasn't a direct quote). This is apparently a direct quote.
http://www.therecord.com/news-story/2223948-murder-accused-takes-the-stand/
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