Canada - Gursimran Kaur, 19, Walmart worker found dead inside bakery oven - October 22, 2024

[Panniniclaus]

I agree. But then I thought.. if it was deliberate and it was captured on cameras, they already would've made an arrest. Hopefully we get more facts soon.

Well - I think of the movie Casino where the boss is always watching the floor. Every Walmart I know has twice the coverage of a casino.. Camera footage being a relatively cheap method to combat leakage.

So the mere fact we are 6 days in without anything ruled in or ruled out.. would tell you this is a "complex" investigation.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Are there any other people in this event other than the mother? The bakery area workers?

Why look in the oven?

According to the DailyMail article below, there was at least one other coworker in the bakery section. It was only after the mom had reached this area in her search for her daughter that her colleague noticed some leakage from coming from the wall-in oven. It was then that the mom opened the oven door and sadly found her daughter’s remains within.

Shortly after, a call to 911 was made from the inside the store reporting that a female was trapped or locked in the oven in the bakery but the caller was unsure if staff members could turn the oven off. Emergency services, noted, however, that by the time they arrived to Walmart the female, i.e the daughter, had already been successfully removed from the oven.

Tragically she was pronounced dead at the scene

Walmart employee's mom 'shattered' after her daughter 'baked' in oven

Gursimran Kaur, 19, tragically died on Saturday night inside the Halifax superstore in Nova Scotia, while on shift with her mother.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Walk-in oven at center of tragic Walmart death 'did not lock'

The teenage girl tragically died on Saturday night after she became trapped inside an oven in the bakery section of the superstore in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LadyL]

There is a picture of the 'interior door release' in the operating manual for this Baxters oven. It looks like the type of large button you'd push with your palm, and seems to be located on the door.

can you post that picture here along with the link?
I don't see that at the link you responded to

 

[Panniniclaus]

According to the DailyMail article below, there was at least one other coworker in the bakery section. It was only after the mom had reached this area in her search for her daughter that her colleague noticed some leakage from coming from the wall-in oven. It was then that the mom opened the oven door and sadly found her daughter’s remains within.

Shortly after, a call to 911 was made from the inside the store reporting that a female was trapped or locked in the oven in the bakery but the caller was unsure if staff members could turn the oven off. Emergency services, noted, however, that by the time they arrived to Walmart the female, i.e the daughter, had already been successfully removed from the oven.

Tragically she was pronounced dead at the scene

Walmart employee's mom 'shattered' after her daughter 'baked' in oven

Gursimran Kaur, 19, tragically died on Saturday night inside the Halifax superstore in Nova Scotia, while on shift with her mother.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Walk-in oven at center of tragic Walmart death 'did not lock'

The teenage girl tragically died on Saturday night after she became trapped inside an oven in the bakery section of the superstore in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This seems to be a reasonable summary and timeline.. This Walmart is a good sized store but it is not Heathrow Airport. You can walk the store relatively easily to see if someone is about. You don't need to call the bakery as though it's a kilometer away.. you can simply walk there. To a place where the oven isn't used on weekends. Yet there she is.. baked in an oven that isn't supposed to be in use and doesn't lock. Something ... that is. Those cameras eh? Wonder about those cameras.. what of them .

 

[Dpdan]

can you post that picture here along with the link?
I don't see that at the link you responded to

I can't attach a picture for some reason but the operators manual is at the bottom of this page: Rotating Rack Oven | Commercial Rack Ovens | Baxter

 

[LadyL]

I can't attach a picture for some reason but the operators manual is at the bottom of this page: Rotating Rack Oven | Commercial Rack Ovens | Baxter

thank for the link
I didn't see it but there's a lot to look at - I'll have another look tomorrow

 

[JDG]

can you post that picture here along with the link?
I don't see that at the link you responded to

The oven at the Halifax store was not stated to be a Baxter oven.

In the US Walmart uses Baxter ovens and it was said to be ‘similar’ or some such.

Neither LE nor Walmart have said the brand of oven.

IIRC, the oven in Halifax could not be opened from the inside.

* * * * * *

Has anyone said which department the deceased was assigned to/worked in? Electronics? Household/Kitchen goods? Men’s/Ladies/Childrens wear?

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Who removed the body from an extremely hot oven? Not to be insensitive, but wouldn’t there have been a burning scent from the oven?

 

[TTF14]

As if purchasing murder supplies from Walmart isn't bad enough (but all criminals seem to do it), murdering someone inside a Walmart is way dumber! If this was a murder at all, I mean. Are there people who legit don't know that Walmart has a ton of CCTV?

As always, JMO.

 

[Kittybunny]

Am I the only one who thinks that one possibility is self-harm? I know it seems crazy to think that one would choose this horrific method, but after following lots of bizarre suicide cases here over the years, I don’t assume anything.

Agree with those that say CCTV will be the key, whatever happened.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I also thought of self harm. Did she have a boyfriend?

 

[Gemmie]

Who removed the body from an extremely hot oven? Not to be insensitive, but wouldn’t there have been a burning scent from the oven?

Not only the smell of burned flesh, hair, and clothing, but also slippage (which results from the loosening of outer layers of the epidermis). I can't imagine moving her before paramedics got there. I mean, I get it, you want to get her out, but it seems like it could have been extremely unpleasant to do so. Likely aided by a burst of adrenaline.

WARNING - Extremely graphic pics not for the faint of heart: Forensic Pathology of Thermal Injuries: Overview, Fire-Related Deaths, Thermal Injury Terminology

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Am I the only one who thinks that one possibility is self-harm?

I think that is the least likely possibility, because it's Walmart-- many harmful items for sale there. So why would anyone choose this? And with her mother working there that night, it's even less likely to me.

I really think she'll be a victim of someone's error or of foul play...

 

[Baciagalupo]

I'm so sorry for her poor mom, they must have been so very close.

 

[LadyL]

The oven at the Halifax store was not stated to be a Baxter oven.

In the US Walmart uses Baxter ovens and it was said to be ‘similar’ or some such.

Neither LE nor Walmart have said the brand of oven.

IIRC, the oven in Halifax could not be opened from the inside.

* * * * * *

Has anyone said which department the deceased was assigned to/worked in? Electronics? Household/Kitchen goods? Men’s/Ladies/Childrens wear?

ok good to know
and I just assumed she was working in the bakery section ...

 

[JDG]

ok good to know
and I just assumed she was working in the bakery section ...

Perhaps she was in the bakery department but wouldn’t it be ‘interesting’ if she was in say housewares?

Even in the bakery department, she would only be filling shelves with baked goods and getting cakes for customers. No baking on the weekend.

 

[seasideForest]

IIRC, the oven in Halifax could not be opened from the inside.

OMG. Imagine ending up trapped in there...

otoh I'm shocked that Health & Safety (or whatever it's called in Canada) would allow a walk-in oven to NOT have that safety feature.
The details will come out some time I suppose. MOO

Am I the only one who thinks that one possibility is self-harm? I know it seems crazy to think that one would choose this horrific method, but after following lots of bizarre suicide cases here over the years, I don’t assume anything.

I wondered about suicide too. Haven't ruled it out in my own mind.

I was once talking to somebody with depression, anxiety, past suicidal thoughts etc etc whose sister had attempted suicide. Apparently the sister said sometime after that that by the time you really really want to and absolutely plan to commit suicide today or in 2 hours and it's not just thoughts - even thoughts on repeat with methods half-planned - when it gets that bad within your subjective self then you don't care how horrific and physically painful the method is and also that you wouldn't be frightened of jumping off a tower, cliff, suspension bridge etc. That was the sister's experience and opinion, I don't know if it's applicable to everybody who might attempt suicide, so HOO (her opinion only) but if true in many suicide cases, then it would explain those bizarre cases you mention.

MOO

 

[LadyL]

OMG. Imagine ending up trapped in there...

otoh I'm shocked that Health & Safety (or whatever it's called in Canada) would allow a walk-in oven to NOT have that safety feature.
The details will come out some time I suppose. MOO



I wondered about suicide too. Haven't ruled it out in my own mind.

I was once talking to somebody with depression, anxiety, past suicidal thoughts etc etc whose sister had attempted suicide. Apparently the sister said sometime after that that by the time you really really want to and absolutely plan to commit suicide today or in 2 hours and it's not just thoughts - even thoughts on repeat with methods half-planned - when it gets that bad within your subjective self then you don't care how horrific and physically painful the method is and also that you wouldn't be frightened of jumping off a tower, cliff, suspension bridge etc. That was the sister's experience and opinion, I don't know if it's applicable to everybody who might attempt suicide, so HOO (her opinion only) but if true in many suicide cases, then it would explain those bizarre cases you mention.

MOO

I agree with her. I think once you're at that point, no amount of pain matters.

 

[bootsinmass]

I agree with her. I think once you're at that point, no amount of pain matters.

Interestingly, some time ago I read a book about a young man who tried to kill himself by fire. He wrote that the pain was so severe that he simply couldn't bear it, and ended up saving his own life. I think there's a reason we don't often see suicide of that manner - even painful suicides don't usually require enduring pain when there is an "easy" alternative.

Many suicidal individuals also consider the effect of the discovery/clean-up their loved ones will face. (Supposedly why many people choose to die in the bathtub.) This would be a very strong choice.

I do hope that LE is able to honor the family's wishes soon, and put an end to any speculation that is troubling them. It must be very difficult to read hypothetical last moments over and over, wondering what the victim was thinking/feeling.

 

[Rosydecember]

Interestingly, some time ago I read a book about a young man who tried to kill himself by fire. He wrote that the pain was so severe that he simply couldn't bear it, and ended up saving his own life. I think there's a reason we don't often see suicide of that manner - even painful suicides don't usually require enduring pain when there is an "easy" alternative.

Many suicidal individuals also consider the effect of the discovery/clean-up their loved ones will face. (Supposedly why many people choose to die in the bathtub.) This would be a very strong choice.

I do hope that LE is able to honor the family's wishes soon, and put an end to any speculation that is troubling them. It must be very difficult to read hypothetical last moments over and over, wondering what the victim was thinking/feeling.

The only way i could maybe see it go like a suicide would be for her to take drugs, turn the oven on, and then sorta OD before it got too hot. That’s a lot of mental gymnastics for this scenario, and then why even bother turning the oven on if it was just going to be an overdose.

Hmm