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My heart goes out to Harmanjit's family, as they go through the difficult process,of viewing the body, then waiting for DNA confirmation.
GUILTY Canada - Harmanjit Singh, 19, Hamilton, Ont, 27 Oct 2014
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I'm thinking that for LE to allow HS's family members (and quite a group of them too!) to view the body, they must have felt fairly certain that it could be HS. If HS had several identifying marks including 'cosmetic surgery', surely that marking at least would be able to be identified during autopsy. They have already confirmed that the body is that of a South Asian male. They should now have a general age and also hopefully a time of death. The neighbourhood near the storm sewer was talking about voices heard on Sunday night, but that kids party there frequently.. but if the body was as decomposed as it is, then the body wouldn't be from this week. I imagine that advanced decomp in combination with being in water would make it very difficult to look like the person the body once was, so I suppose it could still be HS. The waiting must be excruciating. 
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http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5...man-to-view-body-found-in-stoney-creek-basin/
" After seeing the face of a man whose body was found in a creek-cut gully Monday, members of a missing Stoney Creek man's family said it is not their boy.
"They feel it is not Harman," said family spokesperson Sunny Chahal Tuesday night"
" After seeing the face of a man whose body was found in a creek-cut gully Monday, members of a missing Stoney Creek man's family said it is not their boy.
"They feel it is not Harman," said family spokesperson Sunny Chahal Tuesday night"
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If body does not turn out to be Harmanjit, this thread is still open for Stoney Creek unidentified remains.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ney-Creek-Flood-Basin&p=11245317#post11245317
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ney-Creek-Flood-Basin&p=11245317#post11245317
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I grew up in this man's neighbourhood. I can't imagine the pain and stress of going through the viewing of the body, and then it isn't him. At least they would have some answers. Such a strange case.
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Do we know who it is, if it's not Harmanjit?
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The family does not believe it is him, awaiting results from DNA testing.
Today..
http://www.insidehalton.com/news-st...cause-of-death-for-body-found-in-flood-basin/
" An autopsy on the body of a man found in a Stoney Creek flood basin was unable to determine the cause of death, police said Friday
Further forensic examination of the remains will be needed, including DNA tests, Hamilton police said in a release.
The family of missing Stoney Creek teen Harmanjit Singh Chahal have said they believe the body is not that of their son, who has been missing since Oct. 27."
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Wow what a strange case.
Is there any other South Asian man missing from that area?
If no COD was determined during autopsy toxicology tests might reveal it. Maybe drugs were involved for this person.
I think chances are high that it is indeed HS, although of course I hope it is not. But then, where is he?
Is there any other South Asian man missing from that area?
If no COD was determined during autopsy toxicology tests might reveal it. Maybe drugs were involved for this person.
I think chances are high that it is indeed HS, although of course I hope it is not. But then, where is he?
How could no COD be determined, jeez! Surely they can tell if body was put into water before or after death, ie death by drowning or not? If not by drowning, then... it may be more difficult, but surely not impossible? Hopefully the test results will shed some light. And yes, if body is not his, then whose? And then where is HS? I'm not aware of any other Asian men missing in the area?
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If he drowned the autopsy would have stated that. Since the autopsy says that no COD could be established we can assume the person did not drown.
It is of course possible that COS could not be established because of advanced decomp. After several weeks there might not be much tissue left, but that largely depends on water temperatures.
It is of course possible that COS could not be established because of advanced decomp. After several weeks there might not be much tissue left, but that largely depends on water temperatures.
He was missing just under a month before body was found (if in fact it is him), and if decomposition is reduced by half if under water, jeez, you would hope there is enough there to get a COD.
What about all of these people pretty much known/presumed to be missing in 'water'.. ie there was a case I think it was last winter, when a little boy (perhaps autistic, I can't recall) wandered off and his footprints in the snow led to the edge of a river.. they searched for his body but it couldn't be found.. he had been home alone with his dad.. and his dad's footprints went following the boy's, so now there were 2 sets of footprints.. the boy's body was found later in the spring.. but.. if there is not enough left to determine anything, then how would one know in all of the cases LIKE that one, whether it was murder before going into the water, or if it was accidental drowning? Seems we'd have an awful lot of unknown deaths if nothing can be proven after only missing for one month. Very peculiar, IMHO, that no COD was found. I hope they have a different pathologist take a second look.
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It's likely he wasn't completely submerged in the water, but floating.
Still, you are right deugirtni, it is very concerning that autopsy did not establish drowning as COD. Does his mean he was dead when entering the water?
Still, you are right deugirtni, it is very concerning that autopsy did not establish drowning as COD. Does his mean he was dead when entering the water?
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Very Sad.. haven't read the stories yet.. but I hope they are soon able determine what caused his death, sure doesn't sound like this would be the type of kid to be into drugs. If they can't find a COD and it's murder, then I guess a murderer walks free?
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I never understand how no foul play can be expected when they don't know COD.
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