GUILTY Canada - Jasmine Lovett, mid 20s, and daughter, 2, Calgary, 16 April 2019 *Arrest*

[MistyWaters]

I think it's pointing towards Jasmine and Aliyah having been killed in the house, with Aliyah being found in her pyjamas. A possible explanation for the bacon being strewn around, especially inside an air vent near the front door, could be to try to confuse noses and mask the smell of bleach after a possible clean up of blood.

Yes that’s a good possibility.

What seems different about this trial is it appears the defence did not deliver an opening statement so other than the pleas, we don’t know how Aliyah’s death would be otherwise explained away. But considering the onus is on the prosecution to prove RL caused it, perhaps that’s the approach being taken. But the cruelty and fury inflicted through his acknowledged murder of the mother would always remain at the top of my mind.

Whether or not he’s found responsible for the murder of this sweet innocent child will make a huge difference in his time served before parole eligibility, possibly somewhere between 10 and 50 years.

I think the real tragedy is mother and child had no better options than to move in with this monster at the onset. By the time their short relationship ends comes a new girlfriend and all, so I wouldn’t doubt he just wanted her gone out of his life one way or another but once again she could see limited options, without realizing the danger a violent alcoholic posed. JMO

 

[otto]

I think it's pointing towards Jasmine and Aliyah having been killed in the house, with Aliyah being found in her pyjamas. A possible explanation for the bacon being strewn around, especially inside an air vent near the front door, could be to try to confuse noses and mask the smell of bleach after a possible clean up of blood.

I thought I read that the theory was that they were killed at home, but I couldn't find the link again.

What I don't understand is why he brought the stroller to the location where he buried the bodies. Did he want to get rid of the stroller to give the illusion that they were out for a walk? Why didn't he just put it in a dumpster? Why did he burn it? Was the stroller used for blunt force trauma?

I suppose nothing about the crime scenes makes much sense. He draped raw bacon around the house. Perhaps it was to hide the smell of bleach, but I'm also curious whether it was to confuse cadavre dogs.

 

[Tortoise]

I thought I read that the theory was that they were killed at home, but I couldn't find the link again.

What I don't understand is why he brought the stroller to the location where he buried the bodies. Did he want to get rid of the stroller to give the illusion that they were out for a walk? Why didn't he just put it in a dumpster? Why did he burn it? Was the stroller used for blunt force trauma?

I suppose nothing about the crime scenes makes much sense. He draped raw bacon around the house. Perhaps it was to hide the smell of bleach, but I'm also curious whether it was to confuse cadavre dogs.

Yes I think he took the stroller to give the impression Jasmine had disappeared while out with Aliyah, and hadn't returned. Burning it to make sure it wasn't found and taken back out of a dumpster, which would disprove that narrative.

 

[otto]

Yes I think he took the stroller to give the impression Jasmine had disappeared while out with Aliyah, and hadn't returned. Burning it to make sure it wasn't found and taken back out of a dumpster, which would disprove that narrative.

He must have spent a lot of time at the crime scene to burn a stroller and shoes, and then move the remnants to a culvert some distance away.

 

[Gina20]

I thought I read that the theory was that they were killed at home, but I couldn't find the link again.

What I don't understand is why he brought the stroller to the location where he buried the bodies. Did he want to get rid of the stroller to give the illusion that they were out for a walk? Why didn't he just put it in a dumpster? Why did he burn it? Was the stroller used for blunt force trauma?

I suppose nothing about the crime scenes makes much sense. He draped raw bacon around the house. Perhaps it was to hide the smell of bleach, but I'm also curious whether it was to confuse cadavre dogs.

Some of those heavy duty industrial cleaners used by heavy duty mechanics are pretty effective, but smelly. Was raw bacon found in his vehicle, too?

 

[otto]

Some of those heavy duty industrial cleaners used by heavy duty mechanics are pretty effective, but smelly. Was raw bacon found in his vehicle, too?

That was not mentioned. There was more raw bacon sitting on top of the garbage can, along with the bacon packaging. It does seem like it was used to hide some smell, but what smell and why is the question.

I'm wondering whether he read some strange online story claiming that raw bacon is good for interfering with crime scene investigations.

 

[MistyWaters]

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[Gina20]

That was not mentioned. There was more raw bacon sitting on top of the garbage can, along with the bacon packaging. It does seem like it was used to hide some smell, but what smell and why is the question.

I'm wondering whether he read some strange online story claiming that raw bacon is good for interfering with crime scene investigations.

Point being, as a heavy duty mechanic he would have had access to some pretty powerful cleaners. Perhaps the bacon was to hide the smell of cleaners.

 

[ttcRider]

The bacon thing is so bizarre. I know you can get bacon scented candles as gag gifts but this is a first for me and I'm Canadian.

 

[evilwise]

Was he was drunkenly decorating his home with raw bacon, or was he trying to obscure human blood with raw bacon?

"Police found chunks of raw bacon scattered throughout the home of double-murder suspect Robert Leeming ...

Crime scene photos ... pictures of a piece of bacon by a vent near the home’s front door, a large chunk of the meat stuffed under the cover of a dry sump hole in the basement floor and a slice of bacon draped across the back of a dining room chair. ...

Along with the strangely placed meat pieces, Weeks said police found the front door window obscured by cellophane and the door seemingly jammed shut by poles used in drywalling.

... also odd that there was a “pin code door lock” on the entrance to the master bedroom in the upstairs of the home.
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Police found raw bacon scattered in murder suspect's home | Calgary Herald

This guy is not rational. I have a feeling it would have been hard to get a first degree murder conviction against him because a jury might not believe he is capable of forming intent.

 

[otto]

The bacon thing is so bizarre. I know you can get bacon scented candles as gag gifts but this is a first for me and I'm Canadian.

Perhaps it's a British thing?

 

[elliefant]

Perhaps it's a British thing?

Lol. I can confirm it is not a British thing
I think it is a nut job thing.

 

[MistyWaters]

Yeah, who knows his thinking. Maybe he thought was exorcising his home of demons?
Exorcism of the Gerasene demoniac - Wikipedia

 

[otto]

Today there was testimony about the undercover sting that led Leeming to reveal the location of the bodies 4.5 hours later. I bet he was really surprised to learn about Canadian police stings.

"Court heard that a few weeks later, two undercover officers, working as part of Operation Highwood, approached Leeming on a street.

"The approach I made with him is that there's a bag of evidence that was found by a nosy neighbour and I'm telling him it's something he may want to take care of," testified one of the officers, who cannot be identified. "I'm putting myself in a position with him to help him."
...

The three men visited outside a coffee shop and had beers at a pub before the officers suggested they go to "the shop," a covert location where they could talk more freely."
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Calgary murder trial hears from undercover officers in deaths of mother, toddler

 

[ttcRider]

wow, sounds like an elaborate sting. eye roll.

 

[otto]

The bacon was for cadavre dogs. That tells us that they were murdered at home.

"A Calgary man who killed his girlfriend and is on trial for the murder of her young daughter took undercover officers in the middle of the night to a remote, snow-covered area where they were buried.
...

They offered to help him with his problems – including removing the bodies of Lovett and her daughter, who were in a shallow grave under a pile of mulch and branches in a day-use area west of Calgary. One of the officers testified that Leeming knew exactly where the bodies were.
...

"I said, 'OK, where to?' And (Leeming) goes, 'You're looking at it.' And he points down. And underneath and against my left foot were branches and a pile,'' said the officer.

"(Leeming) goes and he grabs a branch and lifts it up as if to prove what's underneath all these branches. As he does that, I see a small bit of blue that I believe to be the moving blankets.''
...

The officer said Leeming boasted about steps he had taken to hinder a possible police investigation – including hiding wads of raw bacon around his house to throw off cadaver dogs and filling the back of his car with mulch.

"Well, mulch is death, right? So it smells like death,'' Leeming told the officers in a tape recording played in court."
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'You're looking at it:' Undercover officer says Calgary murder suspect led them to burial site

 

[otto]

It was a Mr Big sting. Undercover officers befriend the suspect, offer to help hide evidence and offer him a job working as a mobster.

"Leeming questioned whether his new friends, who offered him assistance destroying evidence if he’d do work for their criminal organization, were in fact officers trying to trap him.
...

The officers suggested they were part of the criminal element and wanted to help Leeming, who’d been under police investigation for more than two weeks, get them off his trail.
...

“I don’t know how it works here in this country,” the U.K. native told the undercover officers, who can’t be identified under a court order.

“If I ask if you’re cops, you have to tell me, right?”

“Yes,” one of the undercover operatives replied, before telling Leeming he could make those inquiries just once. “You ever ask me again after this . . . then I’m not gonna be happy about it,” he said.

“You heard and seen what entrapment is, right?” the accused continued, before being assured his suspicions were unfounded.
...

Leeming also explained to the operatives why he scattered bacon throughout his townhouse before an April 25, 2019, search.

“Do you wanna know why they are so pissed off with me?” he said.

“I put bacon in my basement. Because . . . pork is the closest thing to, uh, people in the way that, uh, dogs react to them.”
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Robert Leeming suspected new friends were actually undercover cops | Calgary Herald

 

[otto]

This must be Aliyah's paternal grandmother. I wonder whether anyone knew that Jasmine and Aliyah were more or less homeless when they moved in with an angry alcoholic.

"Jodi Sanderson described her 22-month-old granddaughter, Aliyah, as a very active baby with lots of happiness in her life.

On Friday, she listened once again to traumatic details involving the discovery of her beloved granddaughter's remains.

“It’s a nightmare that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy,” she said.

“I don’t know how I could have survived if they weren’t found, it’s just a nightmare that I’m reliving over and over.”
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'It's a nightmare': Grandmother of Aliyah Sanderson speaks out as Crown closes in Robert Leeming trial

 

[MistyWaters]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/leeming-court-lovett-calgary-sanderson-1.6222188

“In an audio recording played at the trial, one of the officers asked Leeming what happened and what Lovett had done to anger him.

"She wanted too much," Leeming told the officers.

"She wanted to get ... married."

Leeming said he had been seeing someone else for five months — what "every single guy does" — and that Lovett wasn't happy.

"Women, man, they always want more, right? Tell me when that ever stops with a chick, ever. From what I understand, she pretty much told her whole family," Leeming said on the recording….

…..The officer said Leeming also expressed relief that his 2014 Mercedes seized by police was an older model.

"It's funny 'cause they were telling me the Mercedes, they pretty much can hook up to the computer in the car and know exactly where I've been," Leeming said with a laugh.

"It's too old a car. If it was an '18, then I'd be in jail."….”

 

[otto]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/leeming-court-lovett-calgary-sanderson-1.6222188

“In an audio recording played at the trial, one of the officers asked Leeming what happened and what Lovett had done to anger him.

"She wanted too much," Leeming told the officers.

"She wanted to get ... married."

Leeming said he had been seeing someone else for five months — what "every single guy does" — and that Lovett wasn't happy.

"Women, man, they always want more, right? Tell me when that ever stops with a chick, ever. From what I understand, she pretty much told her whole family," Leeming said on the recording….

…..The officer said Leeming also expressed relief that his 2014 Mercedes seized by police was an older model.

"It's funny 'cause they were telling me the Mercedes, they pretty much can hook up to the computer in the car and know exactly where I've been," Leeming said with a laugh.

"It's too old a car. If it was an '18, then I'd be in jail."….”

They met through a dating app and she quickly moved in with him. She was living in his home for 8 months, but he was dating someone else for 5 months. There's also the point mentioned in one of the earlier articles that she terminated a pregnancy during their 8 months together.

I think there needs to be more public awareness of options for homeless young mothers so this situation can be prevented in the future.