Found Deceased Canada - Jessica Newman, 24, Calgary, 10 March 2015 #1 *Arrest*

[deugirtni]

Considering that decomposition seems to be half as fast in the water as it is on land, would a body be intact enough after just over 7 weeks in the water, to be still considered a body (as opposed to remains?), and to allow a determination of homicide to be made that quickly?

A basic guide for the effect of environment on decomposition is given as Casper's Law (or Ratio): if all other factors are equal, then, when there is free access of air a body decomposes twice as fast than if immersed in water and eight times faster than if buried in earth. Ultimately, the rate of bacterial decomposition acting on the tissue will be depend upon the temperature of the surroundings. Colder temperatures decrease the rate of decomposition while warmer temperatures increase it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decomposition

 

[deugirtni]

Sounds like the body was also intact enough to determine it was an adult, and also which gender, although they aren't releasing until 'proper identification and notification of kin':

Active Duty Inspector Sgt. Cory Ma says “We don’t yet have a proper scene, so we don’t know where this person entered the river”
Ma adds that police can only identify the body as that of an adult, with the sex not being released until proper identification and notification of kin is complete.

http://www.newstalk770.com/2015/04/29/body-pulled-from-bow-river-2/

 

[deugirtni]

Does anyone know if this would be near where either JRN lived, or Shannon (SMB)? This is from the same link as above. (BBM)

Police had a large swath of Riverside Avenue west of Edmonton Trail taped off as they retrieved a body out of the Bow River around 4:30 Wednesday afternoon.

 

[LoisLane]

Does anyone know if this would be near where either JRN lived, or Shannon (SMB)? This is from the same link as above. (BBM)

It is close to where Shannon was. Taking into consideration that she was in the Inglewood area and lived in Ramsay (her last known/ released location). Riverside and Edmonton Trail is close to Memorial Drive, Calgary Zoo, and the homeless shelters. The proximity to Jessica's last known location would also be possible. There are various entrance points throughout the city.

http://albertarafting.org/calgary-rafting/bow-elbow-river-rafting-routes-calgary-alberta-canada

"Located 6 km east of downtown, Forest Lawn is close to the Bow River, the Western Irrigation District Canal, a regional park and major roadways."
https://calgarycommunities.com/communities/forest-lawn-community-association/

 

[deugirtni]

I guess it has no relation really, anyway.. says body was found in the middle of the river.. could have travelled from anywhere I suppose?

A passerby was walking along Riverfront Avenue near Macleod Trail and called 911 after seeing the body in the middle of the river.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/body-pulled-from-bow-river-near-downtown-1.2351182

 

[LoisLane]

I guess it has no relation really, anyway.. says body was found in the middle of the river.. could have travelled from anywhere I suppose?


http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/body-pulled-from-bow-river-near-downtown-1.2351182

Possibly but as the CTV report explains the area is quite shallow and rocky.

The body could have come from somewhere else and got stuck on the rocks.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Really great episode of "Nova" on tonight about the Boston bombing investigative techniques.

 

[LoisLane]

Really great episode of "Nova" on tonight about the Boston bombing investigative techniques.

There is a transcript as well. It looks really interesting.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/manhunt-boston-bombers.html

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Was it in this thread someone posted a photo of a bleached blonde girl and I think Deug thought it looked like HG or was it another thread? Does that ring a bell, I searched this thread but didn't see it, now I'm confused as to where I saw it!

 

[LoisLane]

Was it in this thread someone posted a photo of a bleached blonde girl and I think Deug thought it looked like HG or was it another thread? Does that ring a bell, I searched this thread but didn't see it, now I'm confused as to where I saw it!

Page 35, Post #861

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Page 35, Post #861

How in the? I tried searching the forum and looking through Deug's posts even, you are a true sleuther Lois Thanks!

 

[LoisLane]

How in the? I tried searching the forum and looking through Deug's posts even, you are a true sleuther Lois Thanks!

Ha! Thank you, I just remember her well.

She was recently in the media and her story really sticks in my mind. I really hope she can overcome her challenges.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Shoot, close but no cigar….post 861 on page 35 was on topic, but not the post I remember….Found it though! This girl..
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...y-police-seek-woman-for-questioning-1.3041270

On the CTV story on FB link below about the Bow River a FB person tagged another FB person, so I snooped the first person's friends and there's a girl DR who resembles the girl in the CBC link above. It might be her if they haven't found her yet….
https://www.facebook.com/CTVCalgary

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Ha! Thank you, I just remember her well.

She was recently in the media and her story really sticks in my mind. I really hope she can overcome her challenges.

Yeah, I forgot about that one too! I was getting all mixed up because they both had the bleached blonde hair. So many young girls out there risking themselves, so sad...

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I am pretty sure we verified that the blonde girls were the same person. I will look back and jog my memmory.

Yeah, I'm pretty foggy with this thread most times. I couldn't even remember if the CBC story girl had even been located yet or not, I wasn't fully plugged in and lost track of info.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Sorry to get off topic with the Bow River story, I guess we'll find out tomorrow from LE possibly. I really wonder if it's anyone of these young ladies, it'll be terrible news for someone's family.

 

[debsy99]

Since I don't know JRN approximate home location I used her work to give you guys an idea of the distance.

https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Wate...0339f9e0d53e95!2m2!1d-114.0527802!2d51.049425

 

[LoisLane]

Yeah, I'm pretty foggy with this thread most times. I couldn't even remember if the CBC story girl had even been located yet or not, I wasn't fully plugged in and lost track of info.

My head has been in a fog all week! I will take a look tomorrow at the MSM for the names etc.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Since I don't know JRN approximate home location I used her work to give you guys an idea of the distance.

https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Wate...0339f9e0d53e95!2m2!1d-114.0527802!2d51.049425

Thanks for that, it is pretty close.

 

[news.talk]

Clearly they found something that indicates the body was not there due to suicide or accidental drowning:

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Recovered by Calgary fire crews, the body was scrutinized by the medical examiner.

“Due to what the examiner found, there’s been communication with homicide and at this point we’re treating it as suspicious,” said Sgt. Cory Ma.

Police confirmed the body is that of an adult, but declined to release the identity or gender.

http://m.calgarysun.com/2015/04/29/...river-wednesday-afternoon-as-suspicious-death