CANADA - Lucas Fowler, Australian & Chynna Deese, American, murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #2

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  • #761
In Canada, not a chance. At this point, everyone in Western Canada knows what they look like. In an aboriginal community, they’d stick out like a sore thumb. Hiring a plane isn’t that simple (I have a pilot’s license) and you can’t just “hire a boat” in rural communities :)

Very true. And even if you could hire a boat or plane, which they can't, there is nowhere that these guys could go where they have any hope of surviving. This is truly the Great White North, the vast wilderness of Northern Canada. Their best chance of survival now is to turn themselves in at the local RCMP station.
 
  • #762
I live in AB as well and have done plenty of oilfield work in the Ft mc area, only accessible from the north in the winter time via ice bridges, and would the the most indirect rout from the ft Nelson area. Cold Lake, being several hundred km's south of ft Mac is the north most route to northern Saskatchewan.
I stand corrected if you know the Fort Mac area well. I cannot find the post by Otto. I did a search on his name but he has too many posts to go through them all and I can’t remember when he posted the map.
 
  • #763
There's pretty much no danger of them coming into Ontario or anywhere east of the Manitoba border. There is only one highway connecting both halves of the country.

If they got back down south, they could have crossed at West Hawk without being stopped. At that point, I would have stolen a canoe (not a power boat) and a fishing rod if I didn’t have one and headed out Lake of the Woods :)
 
  • #764
There's pretty much no danger of them coming into Ontario or anywhere east of the Manitoba border. There is only one highway connecting both halves of the country.

Yes, and thankfully that road is far south of Gillam.
RCMP officers are searching the Fox Free Nation through the night.
 
  • #765
yeah someone posted video of a ferry earlier which confused me
but ferries can't transverse Hudson Bay or other bodies of water?

Most of the tiny communities that dot Hudson Bay are fly in communities. This region is largely inaccessible to fugitives.
 
  • #766
yeah someone posted video of a ferry earlier which confused me
but ferries can't transverse Hudson Bay or other bodies of water?
I honestly don’t know. I am original from Ontario and I was only aware of one ferry in the Rideau Canal in Ottawa. Lol. And as someone just posted, a lot of the real northern communities are fly-in.
 
  • #767
I live in AB as well and have done plenty of oilfield work in the Ft mc area, only accessible from the north in the winter time via ice bridges, and would the the most indirect rout from the ft Nelson area. Cold Lake, being several hundred km's south of ft Mac is the north most route to northern Saskatchewan.

Thanks! It’s so helpful to have locals who can fill us in on details like this. Also thanks to @Tarika, @rmoeller and everyone!
 
  • #768
None of these are far fetched theories at all. I had thought that , by now, considering the tension and the terrific level of alarm they are living at, multiplied by two, their own individual tension and their shared combined tension that perhaps, one might turn on the other. 'you got me into this' kind of thing. ' I always knew you were nutso'.. and so on. It is a feasible theory. . ..

But the longer it goes on, the more I understand that their committment and utter fealty to each other must be paramount and unyeilding. It might take death to break it.

Neither has stood in an empty cell and heard the cell door close behind them yet. That could be all it takes to get the ball rolling, no matter what the bond was like before.
 
  • #769
if is unknown what they are driving now what is stopping them from using that one highway?

I would think and hope the cops have checkpoints set up.
 
  • #770
I would think and hope the cops have checkpoints set up.

apparently there is a big man hunt in that suburb on manitoba right now, it will go through the night
so its possible they think they are on foot or somewhere local
 
  • #771
if is unknown what they are driving now what is stopping them from using that one highway?

They could try, if they wanted to make a 1500 km detour, but it's just single lane traffic through the first 14 hrs or so of Ontario, so it makes it pretty easy to set up a road block. There are no detours once on the TransCanada into Ontario.

But the TransCanada was closed for a good part of the day today due to an accident.
 
  • #772
Yes and that somehow the burnt truck came to the attention of LE was key because that’s what initially focused attention onto them.

Crazy. Wow.
 
  • #773
By now, the RCMP know what went down at Gillam, know whether the vehicle that was found has anything to do with this, and know whether there are any vehicles missing in the community.
 
  • #774
Next southbound train through Gillam is on Aug 1 evening! So they are stuck. Hopefully this will end tomorrow, with no other victims.
 
  • #775
Somebody posted upthread about the location where the POIs stopped - sorry I can't find the post now to quote it properly. The OP mentioned the shop owner who was interviewed is on a reality tv show about their jade mining store. I found a trailer for the show, if anyone is interested like I was to see what the show was about:


I wonder if the guys stopped at the jade store because of the show, for the free coffee the shop offers, or just coincidentally.

jmo
 
  • #776
apparently there is a big man hunt in that suburb on manitoba right now, it will go through the night
so its possible they think they are on foot or somewhere local
Which suburb?
 
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Thanks! It’s so helpful to have locals who can fill us in on details like this. Also thanks to @Tarika, @rmoeller and everyone!
Yes! Local info is always great. Totally useful on this thread. Thank you, locals.

Canada is beautiful.

jmo
 
  • #779
... it's just single lane traffic through the first 14 hrs or so of Ontario, so it makes it pretty easy to set up a road block.

The TransCanada is not the only road.
 
  • #780
They could try, if they wanted to make a 1000 km detour, but it's just single lane traffic through the first 14 hrs or so of Ontario, so it makes it pretty easy to set up a road block. There are no detours once on the TransCanada into Ontario.

But the TransCanada was closed for a good part of the day today due to an accident.
Also major road construction. Once going into to Ontario there is a somewhat northern highway and one to the south. I have taken both enroute to and from Ottawa.
 
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