Deceased/Not Found Canada - Lyle, 78, & Marie McCann, 77, Alberta, 5 July 2010 #1 *T. Vader guilty*

[RubyRed]

Interesting post by Rhonda under discussions " Junkyard Claim"

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=134245599942161&topic=216

 

[Wondergirl]

The "couple" who went to the police station to report the sighting of the Hyundai in Prince George, said that the vehicle had been seen for the last 4 days.

This would be the last 4 days, starting on Tuesday, the day the couple went to the police station.

That could potentially mean the Hyundai was in Prince George from July 8/9 to at least the 13th (Tuesday).

 

[Venom Goose]

Mounties in Prince George, B.C., say more witnesses have now reported credible sightings of a vehicle belonging to a missing Alberta couple in the central Interior community.

Police received the first reported sighting of the light green Hyundai Tucson on Tuesday afternoon when two people visited the Prince George RCMP detachment.

On Wednesday investigators received at least two more tips they consider "very credible," according to RCMP spokesman Gary Godwin.

"These are people that saw the vehicle and have been able to describe the vehicle, where the vehicle was, how the vehicle was driving," said Godwin.

"One tipster gave the full plate, the other gave a partial plate. We can now confirm or we're pretty sure — almost absolutely sure that vehicle was in town," he said.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2010/07/15/edmonton-missing-couple-rcmp.html#ixzz0tmLntEVd

 

[Venom Goose]

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l...edm_missing_100715/20100715/?hub=EdmontonHome

Article with surveillance footage of Lyle on the 3rd.

More about the car
""They described the vehicle and gave a partial licence plate, but enough numbers to fit it with [the missing] vehicle, and that it was driving slowly in a particular area of town," he said.

He described the area in question as "the bowl," or central area of Prince George."

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/technol...rince+George/3277616/story.html#ixzz0tmMtGIR6

 

[RubyRed]

3 reports of car in Prince George. I wonder if any of them saw who was driving it?

 

[RubyRed]

Lyle Thomas McCann, 78, was last seen July 3rd on this surveillance video filling up at a gas station in St. Albert. Courtesy RCMP​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0zVIG75eDY&feature=player_embedded

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l...edm_missing_100715/20100715/?hub=EdmontonHome
​

 

[RubyRed]

Their RV was found ablaze two days later, hidden up a logging access road near a campsite outside of Edson, Alta., about 180 km west of St. Albert.

Investigators confirmed no human remains were discovered in the burnt-out RV.

The missing Tucson, bearing Alberta plate ZPK 289, is now the subject of a massive public search as police attempt to piece together the mystery of the couple's disappearance.



Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/technol...rince+George/3277616/story.html#ixzz0tmVNLxO5

 

[RubyRed]

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l...edm_missing_100715/20100715/?hub=EdmontonHome

Article with surveillance footage of Lyle on the 3rd.

More about the car
""They described the vehicle and gave a partial licence plate, but enough numbers to fit it with [the missing] vehicle, and that it was driving slowly in a particular area of town," he said.

He described the area in question as "the bowl," or central area of Prince George."

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/technol...rince+George/3277616/story.html#ixzz0tmMtGIR6

bbm

It sounds like the car has been in same area. Hope they find it soon.

 

[Hazel]

Lyle Thomas McCann, 78, was last seen July 3rd on this surveillance video filling up at a gas station in St. Albert. Courtesy RCMP​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0zVIG75eDY&feature=player_embedded

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l...edm_missing_100715/20100715/?hub=EdmontonHome​

Thank you Ruby

This other link contains ALL the surveillance video segments

---> http://www.youtube.com/user/CTVnewsEdmonton#p/u/3/XuuGkD7kXqU <---​

Courtesy of the RCMP and CTV Edmonton's YouTube Channel

ETA: trying to look inside the RV window and also looking for any shadows around the area, in case 'someone' got in the RV while gassing up, but I don't see anything unusual.

 

[RubyRed]

Thank you Ruby

This other link contains ALL the surveillance videos = http://www.youtube.com/user/CTVnewsEdmonton


Courtesy of the RCMP and CTV Edmonton's YouTube Channel

Thanks, everything seems normal at that point. This is so sad.

 

[Hazel]

Thanks, everything seems normal at that point. This is so sad.

Where and why did they stop? I am assuming they had everything they could possibly need in their RV.

Did Mrs. McCann drive? I'm thinking if Mr. McCann needed to use the washroom, will Mrs. McCann take over the driving, or would they just pull over on the side of the road?

Perhaps as Wondergirl suggested, they drove further west, maybe even made it safe to their first destination in Blueriver, and that is were they met some people they trusted? Then the perps were the ones that drove the RV & SUV back to the lake.

How about road rage? Maybe someone cut them off, and forced them to stop? So many possibilities and such a huge area to be searched Where are you Mr. and Mrs. McCann?

 

[RubyRed]

Now that I know the car and RV were at the campground I have to wonder how far a perp would travel in that. That would be a big risk if they had harmed them.

The photo of where RV burned looks like it was dumped there.

There also was no answer when the RV door was knocked on. Makes me think the perp(s) were doing something criminal at that time.

 

[Hazel]

Now that I know the car and RV were at the campground I have to wonder how far a perp would travel in that. That would be a big risk if they had harmed them.

The photo of where RV burned looks like it was dumped there.

There also was no answer when the RV door was knocked on. Makes me think the perp(s) were doing something criminal at that time.

Right! also, IIRC, I read that campers saw both the RV and SUV, but then the RV was moved to a different area, where it was found burning? Will have to go back and re-read some of the latest articles to see if I read correctly.

Ruby, what do you have in mind when you say: "Makes me think the perp(s) were doing something criminal at that time."
You mean like smoking pot or doing other kind of drugs? Or do you think the McCanns were in there with the perps at the time?

 

[Hazel]

WOW! There are almost 14,000 members in the Help us find our parents - Lyle & Marie McCann Facebook account (link here)

Under one of the photos, they are requesting to not only look for the licence plate, as plates may possibly be changed.

The McCanns light green 2006 Hyundai has attachments to the front bumper for towing. Will repost the picture that shows the black bar at the front.

light green 2006 Hyundai Tucson SUV Alberta licence plate ZPK 289

For comparison purposes, here is a picture of a Hyundai Tucson SUV without the attachments:

 

[RubyRed]

Right! also, IIRC, I read that campers saw both the RV and SUV, but then the RV was moved to a different area, where it was found burning? Will have to go back and re-read some of the latest articles to see if I read correctly.

Ruby, what do you have in mind when you say: "Makes me think the perp(s) were doing something criminal at that time."
You mean like smoking pot or doing other kind of drugs? Or do you think the McCanns were in there with the perps at the time?

I have a couple things I have been thinking.

1) Perp(s) were in the RV with McCanns and didn't want to be recognized.

2) Perp(s) were by themselves already having done something to McCanns and also didn't want to be seen.

3) They had McCanns in the woods and had harmed them at that point, and were disposing of them. ( I hate typing that )

4) RV was burned to destroy evidence of foul play.

 

[Hazel]

I have a couple things I have been thinking.

1) Perp(s) were in the RV with McCanns and didn't want to be recognized.

2) Perp(s) were by themselves already having done something to McCanns and also didn't want to be seen.

3) They had McCanns in the woods and had harmed them at that point, and were disposing of them. ( I hate typing that )

4) RV was burned to destroy evidence of foul play.

Thanks for answering Ruby I too hate to allow my thoughts go in that direction Your #3 made me think that besides searching the woods, perhaps LE should also search the lake itself? :cry:

#4 ITA that the RV was burned to destroy evidence, not too sure if of foul play, but most definitely to destroy evidence of themselves. I write themselves instead of himself/herself, because I believe there must have been more than one person involved, JMHO.

 

[matou]

Police believe that the vehicle is the McCann vehicle in Prince George.

“We can now say with absolute certainty that the vehicle was here in Prince George,” Constable Gary Godwin from the RCMP Prince George detachment said.

There have been no sightings of the couple themselves.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-alberta-couple-spotted-in-bc/article1641464/

 

[RubyRed]

Thanks for answering Ruby I too hate to allow my thoughts go in that direction Your #3 made me think that besides searching the woods, perhaps LE should also search the lake itself? :cry:

#4 ITA that the RV was burned to destroy evidence, not too sure if of foul play, but most definitely to destroy evidence of themselves. I write themselves instead of himself/herself, because I believe there must have been more than one person involved, JMHO.

I think more than one perp is involved too.

 

[matou]

Mounties first received a tip the light green Hyundai Tucson was driving through Prince George, B.C., on July 13.

A couple who saw the SUV jotted down the licence number — ZPK 289 — and police said it was a match.

The couple reported the sighting to an RCMP detachment clerk, who didn't pass it along until the next day.

Now, police can't reach the pair who might have valuable information to share, Godwin said.

this is upsetting. Did the couple see who was driving, I wonder?

http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/alberta/2010/07/14/14711636.html

 

[Hazel]

The latest tip, believed to be the most credible, was provided by a couple on July 13 at 2:00 p.m. in the Prince George detachment. As protocol, the tipsters provided their contact information.

&#8220;We haven&#8217;t been able to get back in touch with them... We would very much like to talk to them again,&#8221; Const. Godwin said.

All of the tipsters who came forward to police provided information on the vehicle but no description on who was driving the vehicle was provided, Const. Godwin confirmed.

Although police are not certain who was driving the vehicle, &#8220;If they [the McCanns] were headed to Abbotsford from Edson then you are going to come to Prince George,&#8221; Const. Godwin said.

Police are calling on the couple who came forward on July 13 to contact them for additional information.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-alberta-couple-spotted-in-bc/article1641464/

Apparently LE has that couple's contact information. Also if that couple walked into the RCMP detachment, they might have some video footage of them. Why are LE unable to contact them? Hope that couple is OK!!