Identified! Canada - Regina, SK, WhtMale 720UMSK, 20-30, hit by train, Jul'95 - Michael Kirov (Lewis)

[masnitram]

I was trolling for case updates and came across Austin Jay Smith and immediately thought of this UID.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/smith_austin.html

Not sure if he was a smoker, was in a relationship with anyone named Kathy" nor why he would drift to Canada. The vital stats all line up (- the 3 inch height discrepancy) with the UID however as well as the timeline....

 

[carbuff]

Side by side -- looks pretty close to me.

 

[masnitram]

Side by side -- looks pretty close to me.

I thought so too. The circumstances of Austin's disappearance, the location of the UID, and what they believe to be known about the unidentified bother me quite a bit by comparison. Strangers things have happened though....

 

[carbuff]

It doesn't really seem to fit, I agree -- but on the other hand, there's nothing to rule it out, either.

 

[Roselvr]

I found this page today- Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) missing persons and unidentified remains & saw his file here

It says there is new information

On the 28th of July 1995 a white male was located deceased in Regina Saskatchewan. The male had no identification and nothing distinguishing that would lead to his identity. The Regina Police Service conducted an extensive investigation in an attempt to identify "John Doe" with negative results. A recent joint investigation between the Regina Police Cold Case Unit and the Ontario Provincial Police Missing Persons and Unidentified Bodies Unit has shed some new light into this investigation. Investigators now believe that John Doe may be from or may have traveled through Ontario prior to his death in Saskatchewan. Indicators are present to suggest that he may have been a heavy smoker. Although found wearing size 12.5 shoes, his actual foot size is 9 - 10.

 

[Danaya]

I wish there was more update than that. It doesn't really help us in identifying him. This case is just so frustrating, I've been trying to find a match for years actually off and on and even the detective says they think he may have come from outside Canada. There's just no matches.

 

[Danaya]

Strange, there is nothing on the web about James Michael Baker (missing 19 year old from New York). I don't even know if he is still missing and the photo they have of him looks more like a 14 year old. I wonder if he was in foster homes or something and lost in the system. He does resemble the UID. Maybe I will contact the Massena police department and ask for more information on him.

 

[reasypeasy]

What about Jason Donald Reynolds?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4367dmmt.html

Recon is similar to picture of Jason, height fits well, age fits barely into the lower end of the range, there is a discrepancy in eye color that may be due to hazel eyes being an uncertain color and witness descriptions being wrong. He did have a habit of running away, but that doesn't necessarily mean he knew the streets, as young people often run to friends rather than to go live under bridges. Billings Montana isn't exactly close to Regina, but on the other hand there is quite a gap in time between date last contact and date of death, and the two locations are close enough that it is possible he had met someone from Canada, ran away from home to live with them or work for them, and then lost that arrangement close to the date he died. That would be rather depressing, I think, to be in a country one is not a citizen in, without accomodation or resources and with no-one that one felt able to return to in one's own country.

 

[Danaya]

Do we know the circumstances around Jason's disapearance?

 

[reasypeasy]

The most I've been able to find is over at charleyproject. He was adopted, he had run away before, he had no drug or alcohol problems.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/reynolds_jason.html

 

[carbuff]

We thought for quite some time that Jason Reynolds was Grateful Dead Jason, but that didn't pan out.

Montana is a very large state. You have to travel a long distance to get anywhere (being from Montana myself...) so we tend to think nothing of heading out for someplace 500 miles down the road. I have no trouble believing he maybe headed east after leaving Billings, maybe followed I-90 all the way back east, and then headed home via Canada.

 

[Roselvr]

I wish there was more update than that. It doesn't really help us in identifying him. This case is just so frustrating, I've been trying to find a match for years actually off and on and even the detective says they think he may have come from outside Canada. There's just no matches.

It would not surprise me if he was from Canada & was never reported missing.

 

[Danaya]

I just don't understand why this happens, why some people are not reported missing. If he was the drifter that that man thought he had traveled with, he was from a reportedly middle to upper class background... you'd think it'd be out of the ordinary for his family not to hear from him for 15 years!

I guess I can submit Jason Donald Reynolds as a possible match but I'm sure that the detective on this case is getting tired of hearing from me... I've sent him quite a few "potential" matches.

 

[CarlK90245]

They don't seem too sure of the Date LKA for Randy Boudreau. He is a new addition to NAMPN, but they provided only the year 2004.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/boudreau_randy.html

But does anyone suppose they could be off by a decade? He sure looks like our John Doe.

Too bad the calendar in the background of the other photo isn't more clear. LOL.

 

[Roselvr]

They don't seem too sure of the Date LKA for Randy Boudreau. He is a new addition to NAMPN, but they provided only the year 2004.

http://www.nampn.org/cases/boudreau_randy.html

But does anyone suppose they could be off by a decade? He sure looks like our John Doe.

Too bad the calendar in the background of the other photo isn't more clear. LOL.

Walking out the door; ask at the link below
FB Group MISSING PERSON Randy Boudreau Isaac

 

[CarlK90245]

Walking out the door; ask at the link below
FB Group MISSING PERSON Randy Boudreau Isaac

I'll take the family's word for it. They have a more specific Date LKA, and a DOB. If those dates are right, NAMPN has his age wrong. He should be 31 @Date LKA. And he appears to be about that age in the photo.

 

[carbuff]

I just don't understand why this happens, why some people are not reported missing. If he was the drifter that that man thought he had traveled with, he was from a reportedly middle to upper class background... you'd think it'd be out of the ordinary for his family not to hear from him for 15 years!

I guess I can submit Jason Donald Reynolds as a possible match but I'm sure that the detective on this case is getting tired of hearing from me... I've sent him quite a few "potential" matches.

There are so many reasons why a match doesn't happen. Sometimes it's because nobody cares, but more often than not it's the system.

The family may have tried to file a report, but it wasn't accepted because the person was an adult and entitled to leave home, or it wasn't the right jurisdiction, or the person taking the report just didn't feel like it. I have a friend who can't find an agency to take a report about her missing son because the police in the city where he was living (LA) say she needs to report it in her town in Oklahoma, and her local police say no, it needs to be in the town where her son was living. And besides, since he may have left to avoid arrest, that makes him a fugitive, not a missing person.

Even if a report was taken, it might never have been followed up because the person was a runaway, a voluntary departure, a drug addict or prostitute, etc. etc. If it was filed years ago, the report might be sitting in a dusty paper file somewhere, never looked at. It might haveA lo aged out. If the LE agency that took the report moved, or ran out of space, old records might be stored anywhere -- a storage facility, the courthouse sub-basement, the police chief's garage.

More likely, it was filed in a small town that didn't/doesn't participate in national databases. Or it contains an error that prevents a match from being made -- wrong description, wrong age, wrong date missing, on and on. Handwriting that can't be read, transcription errors, data entry errors, etc. etc. etc.

So yeah, it seems odd on the surface that he can't just be looked up in a database...in an ideal world, maybe we could make it happen that way.

 

[Roselvr]

There are so many reasons why a match doesn't happen. Sometimes it's because nobody cares, but more often than not it's the system.

The family may have tried to file a report, but it wasn't accepted because the person was an adult and entitled to leave home, or it wasn't the right jurisdiction, or the person taking the report just didn't feel like it. I have a friend who can't find an agency to take a report about her missing son because the police in the city where he was living (LA) say she needs to report it in her town in Oklahoma, and her local police say no, it needs to be in the town where her son was living. And besides, since he may have left to avoid arrest, that makes him a fugitive, not a missing person.

I wish I could remember what Believe told me about the law; but I'm pretty sure they have to take the missing person's report by law. Send her a PM; she can explain it to you.

Good luck to your friend

 

[carbuff]

I wish I could remember what Believe told me about the law; but I'm pretty sure they have to take the missing person's report by law. Send her a PM; she can explain it to you.

Good luck to your friend

Yes, that is the law now, but so far she hasn't had any luck telling them that.

I mean, a tough LA cop and a shy older Oklahoma woman who rarely leaves the house? It doesn't matter what the law is, the bully is going to win that one. I told her to call the California state police, but so far she's too intimidated to try again.

 

[Roselvr]

Yes, that is the law now, but so far she hasn't had any luck telling them that.

I mean, a tough LA cop and a shy older Oklahoma woman who rarely leaves the house? It doesn't matter what the law is, the bully is going to win that one. I told her to call the California state police, but so far she's too intimidated to try again.

I'd say print her out something & if possible; have her take someone with her. She can make someone the family advocate.