GUILTY Canada - Rori Hache, 18, pregnant, found deceased, Oshawa, Ont, 29 Aug 2017

[matou]

One post from June 2016 reads: “Why is it so hard to find a woman who is honest loyal trusting and willing to accept the sexual freak that I am.” One photo shows a man, presumably Strong, holding a long, black blade. Another shows a pair of handcuffs and what appears to be a dog collar, with the caption, “Home is where my handcuffs hang.”

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...explosive-matched-to-torso-found-in-september

 

[matou]

“This guy is a complete stranger,” Guindon said. “Nobody knows who this guy is.”

Guindon, a member of the Hells Angels in Oshawa, said he has been concerned by speculation that his affiliation with the club had anything to do with his niece’s death. In November, Det. Short also said there was no evidence to suggest Hache’s death and disappearance was at all connected to the Hells Angels.

“The rules of being a biker is there’s no women, no kids,” Guindon said on Friday. “So that’s why you don’t hear of that **** — because it doesn’t happen.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada...explosive-matched-to-torso-found-in-september

 

[Grey-St]

Well, from what I saw in that video (thanks for the assistance, folks) it certainly didn't the remains, or limbs or a small woman. It looked like a full body.

JMO, and complete speculation at this point in time. I have requested to join that FB group, also.

Speaking of FB, some very disturbing and graphic information from commenters on AS most recent post. I normally don't bother myself too much with hearsay, but it actually sounds reliable if you pick up on who it's coming from and how they know. Again, JMO.

Ugh, was typing way too fast earlier. What I meant to say was "it certainly didn't look like the remains or limbs of a small woman. It looked like a full body on the gurney".

 

[Grey-St]

Grey-St, I joined the fb group too. Respectfully, I recommend not commenting or even clicking on like. I found it preferable to just read and move on.

The True Crime Talks group?

I hadn't planned on it. Just gathering information. Learning quite a lot about this man. This wasn't his first rodeo. JMO.

 

[matou]

Strong’s Facebook posts suggest a turbulent childhood with his mother in particular. He writes about living in a group home when he was young and often eludes to loneliness.


Strong has also frequented the extreme site bestgore.com.


“I’d rather spend the rest of my life single then [sic] date a woman that I didn’t trust,” he posted in June.

http://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...hache-remains-case-very-kind-his-close-friend

 

[matou]

However, Jessica Sawyer who frequented the same laundromat and breakfast restaurant as Strong, said she stopped hanging out with him because he often said disparaging things about women.


“He was rude and crude,” she said. “BDSM, yes, but never talked about it as consensual or not, I would change the subjects. He was creepy…he crossed lines.”

http://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...hache-remains-case-very-kind-his-close-friend

 

[Tealgrove]

Strong’s Facebook posts suggest a turbulent childhood with his mother in particular. He writes about living in a group home when he was young and often eludes to loneliness.


Strong has also frequented the extreme site bestgore.com.


“I’d rather spend the rest of my life single then [sic] date a woman that I didn’t trust,” he posted in June.

http://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...hache-remains-case-very-kind-his-close-friend

Mommy issues that warped into general women issues over time? He is sick. MOO

 

[Hazel]

VIDEO

[video]https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.3748068[/video]

 

[dotr]

suicide has been ruled out in the case of Cameron Bailie. death has now been deemed suspicious

This is what i could find at the moment.
http://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/107446

Another story that hit the headlines, but was never officially a homicide investigation, was the disappearance of Oshawa’s Cameron Bailie in January. His body was discovered in the water near Lakeview Park in June. Police don’t believe it was a suicide or suspect foul play.

Cameron B's thread.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...nada-Cameron-Bailie-27-Oshawa-Ont-10-Jan-2017

 

[Jackeee]

Adam strong posted on a friend's Facebook status r.e. Rori being identified as the torso in the lake. He wrote "very sad" on November 9th. Sick.

His friends list seems to be dwindling.

 

[matou]

I think he grabbed her. She is beautiful and small. She looks similar to some women he still has on his fb. He has commented on their photos. JMO

 

[Grey-St]

Anyone familiar with Justin Payne? The vigilante pedophile catcher? Adam Strong followed him on Facebook, even commented on his posts... Very strange.

Just like AS posting about being appalled over violence against women.

Just like AS commenting "very sad" after Rori's remains were found.

This guy is so very disturbed, and has been for a long time. JMO.

 

[CommSleuth]

Anyone familiar with Justin Payne? The vigilante pedophile catcher? Adam Strong followed him on Facebook, even commented on his posts... Very strange.

Just like AS posting about being appalled over violence against women.

Just like AS commenting "very sad" after Rori's remains were found.

This guy is so very disturbed, and has been for a long time. JMO.

I find troubled people who have done horrible things in their past will denounce those very things as appalling/ morally reprehensible despite having committed those offences.

 

['Ailina]

I find troubled people who have done horrible things in their past will denounce those very things as appalling/ morally reprehensible despite having committed those offences.

Is it because they're self-justified and truly believe their own actions are somehow "different," or are those kinds of denunciations part of their mask? Not rhetorical question -- What are your thoughts?

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[Tealgrove]

Anyone familiar with Justin Payne? The vigilante pedophile catcher? Adam Strong followed him on Facebook, even commented on his posts... Very strange.

Just like AS posting about being appalled over violence against women.

Just like AS commenting "very sad" after Rori's remains were found.

This guy is so very disturbed, and has been for a long time. JMO.

And he seems to know he is disturbed. His post about being a sexual freak and his other comments tend to suggest he is aware he is "off the grid". MOO

 

[Grey-St]

Is it because they're self-justified and truly believe their own actions are somehow "different," or are those kinds of denunciations part of their mask? Not rhetorical question -- What are your thoughts?

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I think it could be either, or both. He could feel like most of this behaviour is appalling, but he's the exception. Or it could be part of his facade.

On another note, sociopaths operate on "learned behaviour". They don't have organic emotions, reactions, or values. They "learn" to show sadness when something is upsetting, or smile or laugh when something is happy or exciting. They learn to adjust to what seems like socially acceptable responses. I wouldn't be surprised if his reactions are simply learned behaviours, acquired from a lifetime of staying under the radar.

I'd be fascinated to read his case notes from when he lived in a group home. I'd bet my last dollar that there was years of evidence that this could have been coming.

 

['Ailina]

I think it could be either, or both. He could feel like most of this behaviour is appalling, but he's the exception. Or it could be part of his facade.

On another note, sociopaths operate on "learned behaviour". They don't have organic emotions, reactions, or values. They "learn" to show sadness when something is upsetting, or smile or laugh when something is happy or exciting. They learn to adjust to what seems like socially acceptable responses. I wouldn't be surprised if his reactions are simply learned behaviours, acquired from a lifetime of staying under the radar.

I'd be fascinated to read his case notes from when he lived in a group home. I'd bet my last dollar that there was years of evidence that this could have been coming.

And now those learned behaviors and conditioned responses extend to social media posts -- which widens their theatrical stage and makes room for more people to be deceived and/or harmed.

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this.

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[SWOV]

Justin Payne liked and commented on some of Adam's posts.

 

['Ailina]

Justin Payne liked and commented on some of Adam's posts.

Is there a thread for discussion of JP? I had to look him up. I just read an article in which it describes a teen who filed a complaint against JP in spring 2017 for using her photo to lure predators? [Forgive me if this has already been discussed. I don't recall coming across this topic in this thread.] The teen is unnamed.

I'm just seriously hoping that incident had nothing at all to do with Rori.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canad...ly-uses-her-photo-to-lure-predators-1.3355057

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[Grey-St]

Justin Payne liked and commented on some of Adam's posts.

Very strange. I assume JP just thought he was a regular Joe, or a follower of his? I know JP accepts basically all of the friend requests he gets. Or was it something more? I just find it such an odd tidbit considering the work JP does.