CANADA Canada - Sharron Prior, 16, Point St Charles QC, 29 Mar 1975

  • #41
A great deal is made about footwear in the Sonia Varaschin case, relevant because it might be a key to the killer's occupation.
I wonder what occupation might a person wearing 3/4 sleeve shirt, size 17 might be?
I wonder if any new advances in DNA and collection of it, might find something inside the lock and key. What about the tape found.. duck tape was not as commonly used then as now...


I didn't even think about the types of tape that may have been used back then, or what that could indicate.

I was checking online and found the Canadian DNA Database was established in 2000 I believe. It made me wonder how many other possible cold cases may have been sent for forensic or DNA testing and which ones may not have been sent as of yet. I just have difficulty in believing the person only committed one heinous crime and never did so again. I do find it plausible they may have been spooked by the fact Sharron was found so quickly and moved on to another area, at least temporarily.

It also made me wonder about the exchange of information between countries, like Canada and US. I found an article that referenced a system to possibly help exchange genetic information. Based on the information in the blurb, I assumed the date of the article was 2009 or 2010.

http://www.preemptivemedia.net/swipe/bar/dna.html

I also found that an Interpol Global DNA Database has been established, several countries have actually exchanged information, and it appears to have met with pretty good success. It makes me curious as to what the possibilities could be, especially with countries that share borders. It made me think that two or more cases, relatively independent and seemingly unrelated on their own, that are found to be genetically linked, may each hold a clue for the other that could help solve the case or jump start a stalled investigation.
 
  • #42
Thanks for the great info. I just wanted to add, that I am not sure of the type of tape used, but in a previous post, I just assumed it was duck tape...
As for the shirt,I was thinking that most guys would not wear a button up shirt on the weekend, unless they worked weekends ....Did the perp wear dress shoes ?
 
  • #43
I think it is so widely used anymore, it is easy just to think of duct tape. I may have mentioned it specifically by accident before, I am not sure.

The only thing I have been able to find about the shoeprint is the size. I have found debate on whether the shirt was worn by the suspect(s), may have been lying around and was just grabbed for convenience or by accident somehow, or that maybe it belonged to a friend or family member of the suspect(s).

It's a very good question about the type of shoe the person that left the impression was wearing. I haven't been able to find anything more on it, or if they were able to make a good cast of the shoe impression.
 
  • #44
I didn't even think about the types of tape that may have been used back then, or what that could indicate.

I was checking online and found the Canadian DNA Database was established in 2000 I believe. It made me wonder how many other possible cold cases may have been sent for forensic or DNA testing and which ones may not have been sent as of yet. I just have difficulty in believing the person only committed one heinous crime and never did so again. I do find it plausible they may have been spooked by the fact Sharron was found so quickly and moved on to another area, at least temporarily.

It also made me wonder about the exchange of information between countries, like Canada and US. I found an article that referenced a system to possibly help exchange genetic information. Based on the information in the blurb, I assumed the date of the article was 2009 or 2010.

http://www.preemptivemedia.net/swipe/bar/dna.html

I also found that an Interpol Global DNA Database has been established, several countries have actually exchanged information, and it appears to have met with pretty good success. It makes me curious as to what the possibilities could be, especially with countries that share borders. It made me think that two or more cases, relatively independent and seemingly unrelated on their own, that are found to be genetically linked, may each hold a clue for the other that could help solve the case or jump start a stalled investigation.

When I think of a perp going back and forth across borders, I tend to think of a truck driver, and when I think of Montreal, I think of food and the importance of receiving fresh -food deliveries to the many restaurants...
 
  • #45
I did want to provide updated information on a physical description on where Sharron was located. On visiting the beautiful website the family has dedicated to her, a family member was kind enough to answer a few earlier questions I had. They also wanted to make a correction about the description of where Sharron was later found. I am unsure if they are comfortable with me copying and pasting the body of the message, so I'll just type it out. I am paraphrasing only slightly.

The newspaper reports from that time all reported Sharron was found in a field. There may have been a field in the back of where she was found, but she was actually found in a small alcove cut out in a wooded area along the highway. It was private property owned by the beekeeper. It was a small area, so if a vehicle drove into it, there were be no way to get out as trees would block it. The vehicle would have to back up to get back on the highway.

I hope that clarifies what the area looked like at that time. I also want to make it clear I am not associated with the family in any way and am not in contact with the family other than they were kind enough to answer a few of my questions. :)

I sincerely hope the family can get the answers they seek and deserve after 37 long years.

I have to remind myself constantly that this occurred in Canada and not the USA.


That certainly does help. Thank-you for posting that information. I can see that better than I could her simply laying in a field surrounded by bee hives. Something about that was confusing me. Usually those alcove are used by persons whom know that they are there. And not for public use.
Such as the owner. The chances this person was riding around looking for somewhere to dispose of a body and by chance came upon this alcove by chance I would say would be slim to none. They knew in advance it was there, and decided before the murder to take her there. ALL premeditated. Was the victim chosen by random or single out by someone she knows I don't know yet. But without seeing any official LEO documents, right now I am leaning towards there were two offenders, though not 100 percent certain on that. Seems local to me, someone knowing the area, and knowing about the alcove being there, probably had been there before for other reasons before the murder and decided it would be a good spot to place the body. They may have backed in and removed her from the trunk and took her to the area she was found.

The distance from the alcove to the spot she was found was not far at all yes. Just a few feet I am guessing.

 
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I missed this bit, from a newsclip on the S. Prior site.
http://www.sharronprior.com/art2.html

One, that shirt ( found with SP's body) was 34 inch sleeve, not 3/4 as I had misread, also,at the time, LE had considered a link to the unsolved, vicious murder of 12 year old girl, Norma O'Brian.
Also in this newsclip some info.from the restaurant manager of Marina's.....
 
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  • #50
I missed this bit, from a newsclip on the S. Prior site.
http://www.sharronprior.com/art2.html

One, that shirt ( found with SP's body) was 34 inch sleeve, not 3/4 as I had misread, also,at the time, LE had considered a link to the unsolved, vicious murder of 12 year old girl, Norma O'Brian.
Also in this newsclip some info.from the restaurant manager of Marina's.....

Thank you for letting me find those articles. VERY helpful.
Going to ask questions as I think of them, when done Ill send the whole thing at once. If you have no answer its OK. I don't expect you to know everything about the case.


1. Found after 9PM.
Was it dark at that time, or was there still some daylight hours?
Trying to know, if the person whom notice the gate being unlocked opened notice this during the daylight or during nighttime.

2. Right now, I would say it was the same man. That attacked Cheryl. Though Cheryl was threatened to be cut into pieces. As far as I know Sharron suffered no knife wounds?

Weighed around 200 pounds. That is the same weight they determined at the crime scene by measuring the foot imprint.
quote...I love you, I want you...Sadist perhaps. I would say at times very sadistic. Enjoyed the fear factor.
Someone known around there considered unstable at one time. Maybe few years before this murder? Someone whom may had been caught at one time killing animals while younger?

3. This key that only two had. Was this a key they kept on a keyring with other keys in there pockets? Or was this a key that was left hanging so9mewhere until it was needed to unlock the gate? If it was a skeleton key for same type of lock. You could pick those with just about anything I would guess. And unless the killer was also a burglar or safe cracker and had those tools with him, There is always that chance that it was simply left open, unlocked by mistake even though the owner thought for sure it was locked. I myself have left locks unlocked when i thought I locked them only to discovered later I didn't lock it.

4. And the description that Cheryl gave about her attacker, the bee man could-not think of someone he knew that fit any or all of that description?
Former employee, customer someone sent to him on behave of another etc etc?

I have not read any other cases to compare if a serial killer was responsible for this crime. But it seems more of an opportunity presented itself to the killer and he, they acted upon it.

If it was the same guy that attack Cheryl. They had to have there vehicle near by to be able to leave the scene so quickly without anyone seeing or hearing the abduction. I read about the garage and the DNA, since it was negative I assume they left the area in a car. Probably parked near where he was trying to drag Cheryl down.

 
  • #51
Just found a blog with a composite of the alleged Chateauguay killer, possibly of N.O'Brian and others, from 2008.
Somewhat racy pic. on blog,warning.
http://coolopolis.blogspot.ca/2008/02/who-was-chateauguay-sex-killer.html
I see that person was named and might be in 50's and possibly free.
Daniel Couillard.

fits his pattern, but he didn't confess to it like he did the others.
If there was two involved. Perhaps the crimes are related and carried out by the two individuals. With differences, but enough similarities to be convincing as being possibly connected.

But then again, this person seemed to act alone, and seemed to confess to those he did commit. Which would mean we would be looking at another or possibly two others with similar traits and style in there method of abduction and murders.
 
  • #52
Thanks for the input and great insight, others would know more about this case, as I only "hopped" on thread recently,after noticing Sharron Prior was attacked at Eastertime 37 years ago.
 
  • #53
Good point! Not same guy, but perhaps with similiar approach...
 
  • #54
I have not seen a photo of this gate.
Can you tell me if it looked like one of the 3 designs below?

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  • #57
Bumping for Sharron and wondering if anyone ever considered if a female had anything to do with this murder. Sharron was after all, beautiful, smart,athletic with a loving family.
 
  • #58
Older news reposting.Link courtesy of http://s13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightCanada/ar/t1982.htm

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=8301337c-d5a3-4cee-8bae-b68837c331e3&k=75757
"Yvonne Prior and her twin daughters Moreen and Doreen perhaps understand better than anyone what is at stake for the Allore brothers.

In 1975, 16-year-old Sharron Prior, their daughter and sister, was abducted raped, brutally beaten, dumped, and left to die clutching a tree branch in a beekeeping apiary south of her Montreal home.

Sharron&#8217;s murder remains unsolved to this day.

On Saturday, 68-year-old Yvonne Prior combed through the bush alongside her 45-year-old daughters, upbeat smiles on their faces.

"I feel good," said the mother. "I feel like I&#8217;m doing something for another victim&#8217;s family &#8212; and for the victim."

"Theresa doesn&#8217;t have a voice anymore," said Doreen Prior, as the women took a break to eat and smoke a cigarette on the humid afternoon.

"I would sure hope that if we were in the same situation, people would help us out," added Moreen Prior.

Another comfort to the Allore brothers was the presence of Terry Roth.

An old high school pal of Theresa&#8217;s, he promised to pitch in with the search if they would sit down on his nearby dock afterwards and reminisce about the good times."
 
  • #59
Video.
http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categori...es-in-canada/sharron-prior-montreal-1976.html
"She was headed to a neighbourhood hangout for a soft drink with some friends. But 16-year-old Sharron Prior never turned up that Saturday in March 1976, and three days later her body was found, raped and beaten, in a field far from home. Almost 30 years later, in 2004, Montreal police scour a garage using a new method of detecting blood to seek new clues in the case. In this short clip from CBC Montreal, the murdered girl's mother says she still holds out hope that Sharron's killer will be found."
 
  • #60
http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categori...es-in-canada/sharron-prior-montreal-1976.html
"Three days later, on Tuesday, Apr. 1, Prior's body was found in a field in an industrial zone in the suburb of Longueuil, across the St. Lawrence River from her neighbourhood. According to a newspaper article reporting on the discovery, her face was bruised and her skull fractured. Her clothes had been partly removed and she had been raped.

• A man's shirt and footprints found nearby pointed to a suspect weighing about 90 kilograms and about two metres tall (or 200 pounds and six feet tall).

• A year after her death, a newspaper article on her case reported that Prior had likely been alive when she was dumped at the site where her body was found. It also noted that 38 people had been questioned in the case, and six were singled out as prime suspects. But all six were released due to lack of information.

• In this 2004 CBC-TV clip, Montreal police, acting on a tip, attempt to gather DNA samples from a garage in Prior's neighbourhood. According to a website set up by Prior's mother, the DNA testing turned up nothing.

• For more information on the case of Sharron Prior, visit Sharron Prior's website."
 

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