Canada -Timothy Bosma, 32, Hamilton Ontario, 6 May 2013 - #7 **ARREST**

[meadsipper]

Let's reflect on this information for a moment. Remember that at the time the truck was spotted in Brantford, the public had no reason to be looking for it. How does the spotting of TB truck at this time become an accepted fact for release to the public? Even if a member of the public went to police after the fact and said "I saw a black Ram and I am SURE that was the plate", this would hardly seem to be enough for LE to release it as a fact.

IMO, they acknowledge this as fact because the information came directly from one of those involved, who has likely been the key to virtually all information that LE has gleaned on this investigation to date.

Good point. Or, the individual(s) who spotted TB's truck were persons otherwise familiar with his vehicle. Customers from his business, church members, etc.

 

[Wendy101]

In addition to finding the burned remains of Bosma last week, police tell CBC News they have also discovered other remains on that property. Forensics investigators are now working to determine whether those remains are human or animal
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/05/19/toronto-millard-remains-discovered.html

LE keep many details under wraps, I wonder why they would release this, when in fact it could be a deer.

IMO: They know and are preparing the public for the horror story they have uncovered..

 

[Blomquist]

Well it might surprise you to know that I do in fact know how coded locks work. I also know that this is a new building that has nothing to do with any employees Carl may have had. And any employees that Wayne had at the new building were let go 6 months ago. Dellen had no employees.

But one thing I do know is that when an employee is let go, they either turn in their pass card if it's that kind of system, or their pass codes are blocked or all pass codes are changed if there is reason to believe that they may still have access to the building. Why would Dellen trust anyone with a pass code to the hangar? He had no employees, the building was listed for lease and he had a lot of valuable vehicles and equipment in there.

Not to mention I would think the gate on the barb wire compound would be key access. Again, I'd think the first thing he would have done after his father's death and laying off all employees would have been to change the lock on that gate.

So why would he be directing people around on the purchase of a vehicle if he has no employees to direct? Does he just have "hangers on" who will jump at his orders?

MOO

We really have no idea about the security at the hangars. Thats pure speculation at this point. For all we know there is a small side entrance that has a regular lock or a window that is loose...we have no idea what is going on there. We also know that SS refers to him as his boss...so that would indicate that SS was being paid to work , hence an employee

 

[Blomquist]

You're welcome. But what does Child Protective Services have to do with anything?

Crown Prosecution Service

you're welcome

 

[SnooperDuper]

In addition to finding the burned remains of Bosma last week, police tell CBC News they have also discovered other remains on that property. Forensics investigators are now working to determine whether those remains are human or animal
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/05/19/toronto-millard-remains-discovered.html

LE keep many details under wraps, I wonder why they would release this, when in fact it could be a deer.

They have had 10 full days on the farm at this point...is that enough time for some DNA info on the remains they found to come back to them?

It took them 4-5 days from the time that they came to the farm to announce that they had found TB (and they would have had material to match his DNA)

At the time MSM had reported that they had found somewhat more volume of remains than expected...can the remains have been mixed?

 

[Peace777]

JMO of the clothing worn by 1st suspect>>Why would a perp wear orange colored t-shirt 1 day and an orange colored long sleeved shirt next day as that would be like wearing an attention grabber to remember the color (stand out color not many guys would wear). Then the 2nd suspect also stands out because of his dark red hair another attention getting color IMO Probably his hair was dyed this color? Were they trying to stand out to the witnesses? Just so strange to me. Any ideas/thoughts?

 

[flipflop]

Crown Prosecution Service

you're welcome

I thought it was Public Prosecution Service of Canada (PPSC)

 

[Blomquist]

I felt compelled to clear this up as our court system is highly favoured to the accused, however the interrogation and police investigation is highly powered imbalanced to favour the police. This is why it is so important to remain silent as everything that is said is potentially damning evidence to be used by the Crown.

With that, I'm moving back to the case at hand so as not to veer O/T.

Thank you for your resume and detailed opinion. <MODSNIP>

All officers of the court are subject to these rules I believe.

 

[Milothicus]

A thought on the etobicoke seller:

His information has been very closely guarded by LE. we don't know anything about him, other than the fact that he was selling a truck, and remembered seeing a tattoo.

while his absence from the reporting could be taken to indicate that he's a POI, it can also indicate that he is so important to the prosecution's case that LE want to protect him.

not that there's much info available to start from, but i really think it's best to leave him alone. either he's a POI, and LE don't want their case affected by what we might find on him, or they don't want a key witness (connecting DM to a very similar test drive situation) affected by what we might find on him.

 

[flipflop]

They have had 10 full days on the farm at this point...is that enough time for some DNA info on the remains they found to come back to them?

It took them 4-5 days from the time that they came to the farm to announce that they had found TB (and they would have had material to match his DNA)

At the time MSM had reported that they had found somewhat more volume of remains than expected...can the remains have been mixed?

I was just thinking it was premature for LE to release that more remains were found. Why not wait to see if it is human, then release the news. If it is a deer, no need to even report this!!!! JMO

 

[Blomquist]

I am going by MSM. Which is what we are supposed to do per TOS. He officer was quoted as saying he has the tattoo with the box around it.

OK, but I shall continue to think outside the box, as it were ;-)

 

[Ruski]

I will hold out for confirmation from the police that these remains are human. If these are human, the theory that organized crime may be another involved element will have newfound credibility to me.

We will have to wait and see as you said but i don't think that confirmation that the remains are human will make the "organized crime" possibility more likely than now.

IMO, IF the remains are human its sadly most likely going to be LB. Further to that, if DM really did kill her, he probably did this out of some personal need and highly unlikely related to "organized crime".

The purchase of an incinerator would be his way of solving a problem of having a body on one of his properties. It would further support the idea that he then utilized the same method to dispose of TB body.

what i would like to know is:
1) What things don't burn in the incinerator? I am guessing certain metals (some jewellery), dental work....

2) Why not disperse whatever didn't burn in another place...why leave this evidence to be found on site?

Again, to me just seems like amateur hour. DM obviously has some serious issues, probably thought he was pretty clever with these ideas and now is realizing how much evidence he left behind.

 

[tayaway]

A thought on the etobicoke seller:

His information has been very closely guarded by LE. we don't know anything about him, other than the fact that he was selling a truck, and remembered seeing a tattoo.

while his absence from the reporting could be taken to indicate that he's a POI, it can also indicate that he is so important to the prosecution's case that LE want to protect him.

not that there's much info available to start from, but i really think it's best to leave him alone. either he's a POI, and LE don't want their case affected by what we might find on him, or they don't want a key witness (connecting DM to a very similar test drive situation) affected by what we might find on him.

Yes, especially if TB is only the tip of the iceberg, as the knowledge of unidentified remains suggests.

 

[newone]

I was just thinking it is premature for LE to release that more remains were found. Why not wait to see if it is human, then release the news. If it is a deer, no need to even report this!!!! JMO

(a) turning up the heat on all suspects make them panic

b) they know already ...... but public wants to know so they are giving us a crumb of info

JMSWAG (Just my silly wild arsed guess)

 

[deltajoan]

I think the public will be given much more info after the public memorial for TB.

 

[MsSherlock]

There's a lot of expertise here and I don't know very much about search warrants..1) does a search warrant have a specific length of time? 2) Is there a possibility if LE determines that the remain are human, could they extend their existing warrant for any of DM's places or get another one?

 

[NiagaraElle]

Good eye pj .. I'm sure it's already posted, but yes, Millard Hangar:

http://m.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/1252269/photoviewer/?c=4bd9bfa69c28b

Found this from your find...

http://www.flickr.com/people/arpie/

TIME TO SLEUTH these links on the bottom.. see what we can find

 

[Kamille]

We really have no idea about the security at the hangars. Thats pure speculation at this point. For all we know there is a small side entrance that has a regular lock or a window that is loose...we have no idea what is going on there. We also know that SS refers to him as his boss...so that would indicate that SS was being paid to work , hence an employee

Everything that is being posted that is not known fact from LE via MSM is speculation. If we're going to speculate that DM may have given keys and passcodes to people to do his bidding by dealing with the truck and TB, then we can also speculate that it would require him to trust these people very much and therefore he should be able to name them. According to his lawyer he is staying silent on this. Makes no sense if they've set him up.

MOO

 

[Storme]

There's a lot of expertise here and I don't know very much about search warrants..1) does a search warrant have a specific length of time? 2) Is there a possibility if LE determines that the remain are human, could they extend their existing warrant for any of DM's places or get another one?

1. Yes, from what I remember there is a specific date and time which the warrant permits the police to be present on your property to conduct a search. Sorry ETA I realized I actually didn't answer your question. With Search and Seizure Warrants, I do think there has to be a time limit. It's been a while. I'll search it.

2. YES, b/c probable cause has been established

 

[Kamille]

Crown Prosecution Service

you're welcome

It's easier to follow when we use Canadian acronyms for things when dealing with a case in Canada.