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[dotr]

This case reminds me of the Mabel Wong case, that of a young Asian woman who vanished from the west end of Toronto in 1990, that is also unsolved. We discussed it in this forum some time ago.

Like Tao Lin, she didn't seem to have problems with anyone and vanished unexpectedly, and has never been heard from again. Unlike Tao, we don't know what happened to her (not a clear-cut homicide like this one), but it seemed that she was being stalked by someone.

It is possible that this was completely random, although it seems unlikely. Or that someone in her family or associates knows more than they are saying. If she was being harassed by someone, why did she seem happy when she talked to her parents?

I also thought that it could be some sort of "hit". Maybe one of her ex-boyfriends was involved in something and she became collateral damage.

It is hard to say.

rbbm.

The young women, Tao and Mabel, lived 14 minutes from each other by streetcar...fwiw.
https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/1+Fo...7da43799c658fa!2m2!1d-79.5027617!2d43.6982229

 

[DueSouth]

Awesome work, dotr. Thanks so much.

They died/disappeared twelve years apart. I wonder if there is a connection?

I did remember correctly that there is a lot of greenbelt in that area. I wonder if the police searched that hydro field at all?

 

[Chorley8]

I'll erase if this is incorrect or doesn't link: the south parking lot at Four Winds Drive?
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.7642...!1e1!3m2!1s2KhYCFEurTMm_smRN1Vwwg!2e0!6m1!1e1

Mabel Wong would seem the perp would be to young then unless very young looking thirties in the second case. 4-8 minutes struggle followed by such a savage murder seems strange. First embraced? Some of this maybe be witnesses not understanding what was happening. Dotr though I agree always possible he didn't know her. Or barely. And yes a very public place either a crime passionale and he just lost it or a deranged stalker....

Mabel Wong: so did he drive her care to that mall? Or did she? Was she kidnapped into another car from 1550 Jane? Very little info on that case it seems. Thought she was being followed: obviously that is the likely perp!

 

[DueSouth]

I would think the probability that they were connected is very low, but it is possible.

The stalker theory in the TL case still makes the most sense to me.

 

[dotr]

Any chance the Bathurst restaurant supply store is near Bloor/ Grace St. area? Did Mavis ever describe her stalker, or receive threatening phone calls before her disappearance?
Were the young women ambushed outside because they each lived with other people?
If they lived alone, like Erin Gilmour and Susan Tice, for example, would "stalker/s" have followed Mavis and Tao home and waited for the opportunity to strike quickly and leave?

 

[dotr]

By coincidence .....
In the news today, lots of cctv. pics..

http://torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/30807


"The Toronto Police Service is alerting the public to a sexual assault investigation and requesting their assistance identifying the suspect.

It is reported that:

- on Sunday, November 23, 2014, at approximately 8 p.m., a man attended a 43-year-old woman's apartment building in the Birchmount Road and Finch Avenue East area

- the man was invited into the apartment by the woman, because he claimed to be interested in subletting the unit

- while inside the apartment, the man tied up the woman and sexually assaulted her

- the man then pulled out a gun, pointed it at the woman and robbed her of her personal items

- the man fled many hours later

The man is described as being of Asian descent, 5'9" with a medium build. He was wearing a dark pea coat, dark-blue toque, dark-coloured scarf, blue jeans, light-brown/tan shoes or boots, and a black or grey satchel-style knapsack.

Police believe the suspect is targeting Chinese women.

Police believe there may be more victims."

rbbm.

 

[DueSouth]

Beat me to the punch!! Thanks, dotr!!

 

[Chorley8]

Beat me to the punch!! Thanks, dotr!!

http://www.cp24.com/news/police-release-more-photo-clues-from-2012-liberty-village-murder-1.2167951

 

[dotr]

http://www.cp24.com/news/police-release-more-photo-clues-from-2012-liberty-village-murder-1.2167951

Thanks for the link, the new clues are interesting Chorley8, started a thread for Mike Pimentel..

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...4-News-Years-Eve-2011&p=11353655#post11353655

 

[DueSouth]

Just a quick note for anyone doing their research.

The Toronto Police homicide squad online content cold case and current case database is "under construction". I wonder how long this will be for, and what improvements/additional cases will be added.

 

[dotr]

This name was brought up in the Donna S/ Wendy T thread, so might as well bump it here.
Why kill somebody for a car, only to ditch it nearby?
CrimeSolver's original post..
rbbm.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ronto-Crimes-Discussion&p=2319689#post2319689

"On Tuesday, October 7th, 1975, 33-year-old data processing student Albert Chan was shot to death in the underground parking garage of his apartment building on Isabella St. in downtown Toronto. The killer stole Chan’s car and dumped it near the intersection of Carlton and Metcalfe Sts., not far from the crime scene."

 

[dotr]

Crime Stoppers Initiative @ 3:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBOO-Xf18vA

"CrimeStoppers Month 2015 Kick-Off from @TorontoPolice HQ | @1800222TIPS"

 

[dotr]

http://www.citynews.ca/2014/11/16/police-id-man-killed-in-triple-shooting-at-downtown-restaurant/

Tariq Mohammed, gunned down in a Chinatown restaurant on the weekend.

A shooting that looks from the outset like it was about nothing significant, and an innocent man gone for nothing.

Arrests made!

http://www.citynews.ca/2015/01/17/murder-charges-laid-in-chinatown-restaurant-shooting/

"Marcus Gibson, 22, and Ceyon Carrington, 28, were arrested on Friday and face several other charges including robbery with a firearm and assault charges".

 

[DueSouth]

http://torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/31046

This is a strange case, and short on details. Police officers found blood and "signs of a serious injury" on a subway car a Kipling Station.

You would think that surveillance cameras would have picked something up.

 

[Molly879]

Larry Roberts was my uncle. I don't know
A lot about his case as I was a baby at the time.
However if anyone has any info it would be greatly
appreciated. He was a good man who was taken too
soon and missed by many.

 

[DueSouth]

Hi Molly879,

Could you please provide us with the details of your uncle's case that you know so we can do some background research and start up a thread?

Thanks.

 

[dotr]

Larry Roberts was my uncle. I don't know
A lot about his case as I was a baby at the time.
However if anyone has any info it would be greatly
appreciated. He was a good man who was taken too
soon and missed by many.

Welcome to Ws Molly879, looking forward to your posts with further information about your Uncle, Larry Roberts.

 

[dotr]

The wonderful poster CrimeSolver , already has a post about the Larry Robert's case!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ronto-Crimes-Discussion&p=2319689#post2319689
rbbm.
"On Thursday, April 24th, 1980, Brink’s security guard Larry Roberts, 29, was gunned down with a machine gun in a well-planned robbery at Agincourt Mall, which is located at 3850 Sheppard Ave. E. in the Scarborough section of Toronto. His partner, 51-year-old Ted Montgomery, was shot and wounded. Multiple witnesses watched the incident go down as the three robbers grabbed the $178,500 the Brink’s men were transporting, dashed through a library and out the west side of the mall, jumped a fence that separated the mall from a nursing home, hopped into a car, and screeched out onto Bonis Ave. where they disappeared. A police manhunt failed to find the culprits, but police later found two cars nearby that had been stolen in Montreal and used by the robbers. The robbers were all described as white males between their late twenties and early forties. The gunman was described by witnesses as 40-45 years old, 175 pounds, with a short, stocky build, an olive complexion, a dark moustache and eyebrows, a strong jaw, a broad face. One accomplice was in his late-20s, 175 lbs, with a medium build and light to medium brown hair. The third man was described as 5’5” to 5’8”, 175 lbs, stocky, with medium to light hair. An investigation led police to believe the robbers were from Montreal, since the crime bore hallmarks of similar robberies there."

 

[DueSouth]

Yes, I remember this case. R.I.P. Larry and best wishes to his family. We can hopefully come up with something for them.

 

[dotr]

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-02-14/news/mn-42710_1_bank-robbery
1988
"We're exporters," Detective Lt. Marcel Lemay said, explaining that when robbers run out of local targets, they move on to Toronto.

Toronto police are not happy about that.

"I don't know why Montreal has so many bank robbers," Toronto Police Sgt. Bruce Butler said. "They'd mail their guns to Toronto to avoid detection. . . . They'd rob our banks and then they'd drive back to Montreal."

According to Montreal investigators, a handful of people commit most of the bank heists."