Case Against Darin?

[cami]

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Well, she must have been carrying that bread knife around with her because the screen fibers were in the butcher block with it.




That is cute, the Darlies. Reminds me of the Darlins on the Andy Griffith Show. LOL!

But to answer your question, the Darlies want the fibers to be a bristle from the fingerprint brush. That didn't gain any traction since the two are not even the same size, so they then decided the mode of transportation the fibers took from the screen to the butcher block had to be the fingerprint brush. That way it could be screen fibers and still not prove she cut the screen. Of course, those screen fibers would have had to ride the bristles from the screen, which was the first thing they dusted, thru the garage, a couple of points in the utility room, and several points in the kitchen before the man even got to the butcher block. What are the chances that the fibers would not have fallen out sooner? What are the chances that the brush would not have carted more than one screen fiber around and dropped it along the way? Why were no other screen fibers found anywhere but in the butcher block? <sigh> You can't blame them for trying.

LOL, some of the darlies want Darin to have attacked a motherboard with the bread knife and Darlie cutting up chicken in the sink that day hence the fibre and the blood.

 

[cami]

How would that tell you when the screen was cut?


Is this a test? I have no clue. They may not have even been born then for all I know! :blushing:



How often? Was it as often as the intruder who stuffed socks in the victim's mouths?


How do you know it was cut for show? Yes, the screen could be taken off. It wasn't so easy that it could be done without damaging the screen though. If you needed to gain access to the garage to get a popcicle, it would be a pain in the hiney to wrestle the screen off, get a popcicle, crawl out and get the screen back on without the popcicle melting in the Texas heat. That's waaaay more trouble than a nice slice in the screen. Plus, you wouldn't be disobeying anyone by taking the screen off if you had been in trouble previously for bending it.


Well that certainly wouldn't be a first in this case!

A2M, are you suggesting that Devon or Damon got that bread knife and cut that screen down the middle and across? A five and a six/seven year old? Darlie wasn't watching them? How did they get that knife and get it back I wonder without her seeing them.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

A2M, are you suggesting that Devon or Damon got that bread knife and cut that screen down the middle and across? A five and a six/seven year old? Darlie wasn't watching them? How did they get that knife and get it back I wonder without her seeing them.

And then it just so happened that Darlie didn't use it or wash it in the period between the time (whenever that might have been) that the boy(s) cut the screen and the night of the murders?

That would just have to be one more amazing thing that would need to be miraculously true for Darlie to be innocent.

 

[cami]

Sorry, girls, but you are both wrong. Darlie did address the front door in her testimony. She had to because her blood was on the front door knob. It was not on the lock, which I think was a deadbolt. If Darin was correct when he said he locked the doors, she should have had to have unlocked the deadbolt before she could open the front door to yell out for Karen as she claimed.

Personally, I don't think she was yelling for Karen. It sounds more like Darin to me, but gets by as Karen. I think that Darin was down the alley dumping the sock and maybe a few other things and she was worried that he would not get back in time. But I haven't tried to synchronize it with the 911 call yet, so I am not glued to it. There is also the possibilty that she called out the garage door because she thought he was out there cutting the screen. That would at least count for the blood in the utility room.

Darin being out the front door though accounts for his sudden presence in the yard when Waddell arrived, which they later denied and claimed Waddell just walked into the house without announcing himself and without a gun drawn. It makes more sense to me that Darin went out the front door to discard the items in the alley, only one of which was later found, and apparently surprised them because they complained about not being told of the discovery right away. It always made me feel that they were upset because not knowing about the discovery of the sock could have caused them to trip themselves up as they tried to match their stories to the evidence. Otherwise, why be so indignant? Everyone knows the police keep some evidence to themselves to help them trap the killer.

It makes sense that he cut his timing a little short and had to make it appear that he was coming out the front door and not from around the house to greet Waddell. But again I don't know how that flies with the timing on the 911 call when Darlie hollers out for him or Karen, whichever it was. Someday I will have to take the time to test that theory out.

I'm fairly certain Goody that she does holler Karen. And I believe it's in response to Darin's "get something, get somebody"

 

[cami]

Even assuming Darlie cut then screen, there is no way to tell when.

there is a way, the weathering on the screen. If the cut was made days or weeks prior it would have been subject to "weathering" rain, wind, snow (LOL) and sun.

 

[cami]

I went over there but didn't find anything too outrageous. Direct me, old friend.

No, what makes me laugh is they just bust on to the site and go aboard knowlegable posters with their outrageous theories and the reply he/she received cracked me up. Just because Darlie is a "mother" she's exempt from killing her kids. that's their defense. Then there's Richard and he cracks me up. Everything cracks me up lately, I must be manic. I had so much trouble with the utility companies on my latest move that I had to just laugh and laugh finally on how badly they screwed up. Suffice it to say, I moved in with no power. Just got my phone service yesterday, LOL.

 

[cami]

Do not lump me together with her when addressing me
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Hey Beese did you get my pm on C&J? I am making your tape this weekend.

 

[beesy]

Hey Beese did you get my pm on C&J? I am making your tape this weekend.

Hey, yes I did! Thanks Miss Cami! Did you get my email about the Narcon? That is such a small, but seemingly important clue, don't you think?

 

[beesy]

A2M, are you suggesting that Devon or Damon got that bread knife and cut that screen down the middle and across? A five and a six/seven year old? Darlie wasn't watching them? How did they get that knife and get it back I wonder without her seeing them.

All that trouble for a couple of popcicles!:waitasec:

 

[Jeana (DP)]

A2M, are you suggesting that Devon or Damon got that bread knife and cut that screen down the middle and across? A five and a six/seven year old? Darlie wasn't watching them? How did they get that knife and get it back I wonder without her seeing them.

What are you TALKING ABOUT????? You know there were plenty of times Darlie wasn't watching those kids. All the neighbors said they were allowed out for hours alone. They never saw Darlie out there. How would she know what they were up to? They were allowed in the freaking hot tub alone? What kind of mother allows that? I don't believe that the boys did cut the screen, but I believe if they had wanted to, there would have been plenty of opportunities for them to have done so.

 

[beesy]

I'm fairly certain Goody that she does holler Karen. And I believe it's in response to Darin's "get something, get somebody"

oooh...but it's much more fun to believe she is saying "Darin" Isn't it? I do have a question, even if she was screaming out the front door for Karen would Karen have heard her? Where do you think Karen was when Darlie screamed for her?

 

[accordn2me]

And then it just so happened that Darlie didn't use it or wash it in the period between the time (whenever that might have been) that the boy(s) cut the screen and the night of the murders?

That would just have to be one more amazing thing that would need to be miraculously true for Darlie to be innocent.

Well, she hadn't washed it at least 6 months. Don't you remember Mulder said it had lettuce on it that could be 6 months old? :waitasec:

 

[accordn2me]

A2M, are you suggesting that Devon or Damon got that bread knife and cut that screen down the middle and across? A five and a six/seven year old? Darlie wasn't watching them? How did they get that knife and get it back I wonder without her seeing them.

Nope! :snooty: I main't tellin ya now.

But I have a question for you, or Goody, or anybody that could help me understand....Goody said the screen was cut in an upside down T. I just can't picture that. How did the sides fold down if the horizontal cut ran along the bottom of the screen?

UGH! I think I'm confused again.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Well, she hadn't washed it at least 6 months. Don't you remember Mulder said it had lettuce on it that could be 6 months old? :waitasec:

Sooooooo, now all of a sudden Mulder is someone YOU trust? LOL He's a good attorney, but he was her defense attorney. He said a lot of stuff that turned out not to be true, remember? All of her family said she was a "clean freak." I seriously doubt that this clean freak had a knife in her butcher's block that hadn't been either used nor washed for 6 months. :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

 

[cami]

oooh...but it's much more fun to believe she is saying "Darin" Isn't it? I do have a question, even if she was screaming out the front door for Karen would Karen have heard her? Where do you think Karen was when Darlie screamed for her?

LOL yeah right. karen was sound asleep in bed. That's where I think she was.

Gorsuch should have heard her if she was hollering out the front door for Karen.

 

[cami]

What are you TALKING ABOUT????? You know there were plenty of times Darlie wasn't watching those kids. All the neighbors said they were allowed out for hours alone. They never saw Darlie out there. How would she know what they were up to? They were allowed in the freaking hot tub alone? What kind of mother allows that? I don't believe that the boys did cut the screen, but I believe if they had wanted to, there would have been plenty of opportunities for them to have done so.

Yeah I actually kind of remembered that but I was just wondering what a2m's answer was going to be.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Yeah I actually kind of remembered that but I was just wondering what a2m's answer was going to be.

Sorry, that's one subject that chaps my hide!!!!! Anytime I see little kids out alone, I go insane. :bang:

 

[accordn2me]

Sooooooo, now all of a sudden Mulder is someone YOU trust? LOL

You are kidding, right....maybe I should have used a different emoticon.:hand:

He's a good attorney, but he was her defense attorney. He said a lot of stuff that turned out not to be true, remember?

Believe me, I remember!

 

[cami]

Nope! :snooty: I main't tellin ya now.

But I have a question for you, or Goody, or anybody that could help me understand....Goody said the screen was cut in an upside down T. I just can't picture that. How did the sides fold down if the horizontal cut ran along the bottom of the screen?

UGH! I think I'm confused again.

I believe Goody was incorrect. Here's is an exerpt from Linch's testimony regarding the screen

http://www.justicefordarlie.net/transcripts/volumes/vol-37.php

11 Q. All right. Now, the window screen

12 itself, can you describe the appearance of the screen
13 when it first came to you?
14 A. It had -- it's a rectangular object
15 and it had what I termed a T-shaped defect in it. By

16 that I mean, there is a cut going horizontal and in about
17 the center of that cut, there is a cut straight down that
18 is the vertical component.
19 Q. How about the frame? What did you
20 notice about the frame, if anything?
21 A. At the bottom of the frame there was a
22 bend towards the bottom.
23 Q. Okay. As you started to look at this
24 window screen, did you take certain photographs of the
25 screen?
Sandra M. Halsey, CSR, Official Court Reporter
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1 A. Yes, sir.
2 Q. All right. And did you also do
3 certain other inspections and examinations of the screen

 

[accordn2me]

Sorry, that's one subject that chaps my hide!!!!! Anytime I see little kids out alone, I go insane. :bang:

Not even in your own back yard - with a 6' privacy fence? Hmmm, maybe I'm a bad mommy....

When my daughter was 5 years old, she could swim like a fish. I wouldn't have left her alone around the pool, but a hot tub....well, we didn't have one so I really don't know. Just guessing myself, if she could stand up and her head would be above water I'd say I wouldn't watch her 24/7 around it.