There is a fifth victim mentioned in the original times article. "Lieutenant Fitzpatrick said the head was found at Twin Ponds in Center Moriches, about 10 miles southwest of the fourth Manorville body" This belonged to Andre Jamal Isaac who was known as Sugar Bear. Now, it is important to find out where the bags containing Andre's limbs was found. It says miles away from the head but that's all. Closer to Manorville? " The victim’s arms and legs were later found miles away in plastic bags. It took Suffolk detectives almost a year and a half to identify the victim as Andre Jamal Isaac, 25, of East New York, the grandson of a Vietnam POW.DNA tests linked the body parts to a torso found clad in a skirt, black body suit and tank top in Far Rockaway, Queens, in December 2002. "
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Andre was last seen in East New York getting to a red bmw with flashy rims driven by a hispanic male in November 2002. Andre's friend said the man was Andre's "secret friend" which is slang in the gay community for someone who likes the company of men or trans individuals but are still in the closet. Sounds like the same type of individual who would be visiting late night cruising spots. Sugar bear goes missing from East New York and his head ends up way out in Moriches but his torso on the barrier island of Far Rockaway. Did the killer drive from Brooklyn to dump the body parts and make a loop? Here is key question, where was Sugar Bear killed and dismembered?
I believe he was killed/dismembered in an abandoned building in East New York. First off, Sugar bear had a gunshot wound to the head, which doesn't fit with the LISK's strangulation signature, but he was also a big dude and it's possible SK was unable to overpower him.
On Feb 20 2002, East New York, Brooklyn......"
Workers clearing out an abandoned building in East New York, Brooklyn, found a rotting skull and hands in a refrigerator yesterday, police said. And in an apparently unrelated case, a faceless body belonging to a man in his 20s was discovered in another East New York building, police said. The first discovery was made at 11 a.m. inside 2743 Fulton St. when a crew hired by a bank that had foreclosed on the property was cleaning out the building. In addition to the skull and hands, believed to have been decomposing for about two months, additional bones were located in the building's basement, a police source said. At 647 Belmont Ave., the corpse of a man left under a mattress was found by a drug user hanging out in the abandoned building. The body's face had been hacked off, apparently with a bloody machete left nearby, the source said. There was no immediate word on the identities of the victims or any suspects. Cops said that drug addicts had been known to use both buildings.
Daily News
Here is the namus report for the female, you can even see the jewelry
https://identifyus.org/cases/full_report/5764 There is none for the male however. Was he identified? I believe this two were destined for manorville. Notice exactly the same parts removed from Jessica Taylor and Jane Doe are removed from this girl and kept in the fridge. Was the killer planning to leave these bodies/parts here or was he planning to bring them out to LI? Was the female dismembered in the abandoned house, it sounds like she was dismembered in the basement, which is the perfect place. Especially when your hunting ground is located within a square mile or so......
But before I move on, I want to direct your attention to a human bone that was found 5 days before these two on a road called Halsey Neck Rd South Hampton. Strangely similar to Halsey Manor Rd isnt it?
Between Road D and Halsey Neck
Address 2
City South Hampton
State New York
Zip code 11968
County Suffolk
Circumstances
Bone found on beach
https://identifyus.org/cases/full_report/7879
2202 Linden Blvd Dec 5 2001. Here is another case from East New York where the victim has been dismembered and his head and hands were never recovered. So it's the same MO as Jane Doe, Jessica Taylor, etc.
"Unidentified Black Male
* The victim was discovered on December 5, 2001 in Brooklyn, Kings County, New York.
* Estimated Date of Death: 2001.
* State of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial remains with soft tissues.
* Cause of Death: Unknown.
Vital Statistics
* Estimated age: 20-40 years old.
* Approximate Height and Weight: 160 lbs. and height unknown.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Unknown hair and eye color.
* Marks, scars: 2 scars on the left shoulder; 2 scars on the left leg.
* Clothing: None.
* Dentals: Not available.
* DNA: mtDNA and nucDNA available at FBI NMPDD.
* Fingerprints: Not available.
Case History
The victim was found in a garbage bag mixed in with the other bags labeled from the housing project located at 2202 Linden Boulevard.
No head or hands were recovered. The body had been dismembered."
https://identifyus.org/cases/full_report/6004
March 13, 2013 "The skeletal remains of a woman found stuffed into a charred suitcase in a burned-out Brooklyn building nearly two years ago have finally been identified.
Erica McDaniel, 30, was identified through DNA testing, police said yesterday.
McDaniel’s badly decomposed body was discovered inside 174 Hull Street in Bedford-Stuyvesant on March 23, 2013."
http://theweeklychallenger.com/rema...rooklyn-building-is-30-year-old-kansas-woman/
Tanya Rush lived and disappeared from 345 Livonia Ave, Brooklyn, NY.
Flier
Jessica Taylor was found on July 26, 2003; On July 30, 2003.....
A man whose headless and legless torso was found inside a suitcase in Chinatown on June 30 has been identified as a Queens cook who was on his way to a Connecticut casino when he vanished last month, police said yesterday. Yang Jun Zhang, 45, of Flushing, Queens, was identified through fingerprints after police were contacted by his live-in girlfriend this month....
A dismembered body found in a suitcase on a Chinatown street last month was identified yesterday as that of an unemployed cook who had lived in Queens, the police said. The cook, Yang Jun Zhang, 46, had been decapitated and his legs had been cut off, the police said. His body was stuffed into a large black suitcase. Mr. Yang came from Liaoning Province in China, according to Ken Fan, 29, whose family rented a room in their home on 41st Road in Flushing, Queens, to Mr. Yang. The suitcase containing the body was discovered at 2 a.m. on June 30 by homeless men at the corner of Forsyth Street and East Broadway.
Here's another body that was found on Feb 15 but in 2012 and about 5 blocks from where Tanya Rush lived at 345 Livonia.
"A woman’s body was found Wednesday afternoon stuffed in a black laundry bag that had been left in a vacant lot in Brownsville, Brooklyn, the police said.
The woman, whose identity and cause of death were not immediately known, looked to be in her 40s, the authorities said.
The body had been left among weeds, tires and trash at the corner of Lott Avenue and Bristol Street, just steps from the sidewalk. It appeared that the body had not been there long before it was found about 12:30 p.m., the police said."
Times
Meanwhile in Manorville.....on Feb 17 2012.....someone found the body of a male 100 feet north of North Rd & Wading River. "The remains, Mr. Samuel said, appeared to be wrapped in a bed sheet, wrapped in a plastic garbage bag, and tied with duct tape. Weeds and leaves had buried most of the remains. “It looked pretty bush league, how they did it,” Mr. Samuel said. Police couldn’t confirm if the body had been wrapped or tied with duct tape.
http://riverheadnewsreview.timesrev...w-remains-found-in-wooded-area-in-manorville/
This body had a blueberry bush growing through it and it's said to have been there 5 plus years.
Obviously not all these bodies have clear connections to Manorville, but I believe they may be all the work of the same "Torso Killer" or the Butcher of Manorville. I believe many of the unidentified remains were individuals who were hunted and killed/dismembered in East New York. I believe the killer may use drugs to lure the victims to abandoned buildings where he kills or dismembers them. It may take him lots of planning and time to find the proper locations needed for the dismemberment. The manorville males could be sex workers from Brooklyn, or they could be men the SK met at cruising sites off the LIE near Route 24. One thing is for sure, I do believe the SK is bisexual. Here s a map of some points of interest. Something worth noting is that...although I know Sugar Bear went missing from East New York where he lived at the time....I do not have the address and we need this to further complete the geo-profile. I believe that Khalil White is also from East New York, and although I have two possible streets i haven't included them. So imagine another relevant pin. The address of Akeem Cruz 295 cozine is included to show proximity especially to the dismembered male from Linden 2001.
345 Livonia Avenue Tanya Rush 2008
674 Belmont Male Feb 20 02
2743 Fulton Dismembered Black Female Feb 20 02
174 Hull St Erica McDaniel
Bristol & Lott Female in laundry sack Feb 15 2012
2202 Linden Boulevard Dismembered male garbage bags Dec 5 2001
295 Cozine Ave Akeem Cruz
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