Casey Anthony Grand Jury Meeting Details Leaked

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  • #101
I found it very funny that Baez spouted off to the Today Show that he does not believe in Grand Jury proceedings . . . it is the way our judicial system works! I cannot believe this atty even HAS clients!

I believe that Casey may have a future complaint in that her atty was not representing her properly.

Umm, what is there not to believe in? the GJ isn't sending his client to jail.
 
  • #102
Can a case go before the GJ more then once? If they decided there wasn't enough evidence to proceed, then LE turned up a key piece, such as a db or an eye witness?

Speaking in general here, not any specific case...

TIA
 
  • #103
Can a case go before the GJ more then once? If they decided there wasn't enough evidence to proceed, then LE turned up a key piece, such as a db or an eye witness?

Speaking in general here, not any specific case...

TIA

Yes. You can take evidence to a GJ multiple times in the same case. In fact I think I heard someone say that prosecutors will sometimes just use the GJ as a gauge on their evidence and adjust their investigations accordingly.
 
  • #104
Any detail leaks are probably coming from the same people that the majority of tips to crimeline came from.
 
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  • #106
well maybe we need to look into the source of who said they were upset?And who is the person saying it was leaked? Jose was on Geraldo discussing it maybe he leaked it ?? jmo

I bet that is the case..this story posted on Sunday, right after JB's little short segment on Geraldo.
 
  • #107
I agree that it has to be Baez. He's on record as saying that he doesn't believe in the grand jury system. He's obviously biased and letting his anger show. He's making an issue where there shouldn't be one.

Sorry Jose........this is the American justice system at work.

Baez doesn't believe in the GJ system because it is not to his advantage right now. I'll bet if LE found someone suspected of harming Caylee (other than mom of the year) ol' JB would be on fire to get that person indicted by a GJ.
He's a hypocrite.
 
  • #108
"What is there not to believe in"? I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of the state's secret proceedings, would you? Philosophically, no democracy should have secret proceedings against a citizen of that state.

I don't know why Baez should be criticized for holding an opinion about grand jury proceedings by the state.
 
  • #109
I agree that it has to be Baez. He's on record as saying that he doesn't believe in the grand jury system. He's obviously biased and letting his anger show. He's making an issue where there shouldn't be one.

Sorry Jose........this is the American justice system at work.
IIRC he said on Geraldo that this case going to GJ "isn't fair."
Now take your marbels and go home with your boo-boo lip sticking out JB.
 
  • #110
During the hearing on Friday, I thought I heard Judge S start to say GJ, then he appeared to catch himself. I asked at that time if he had a slip of the tongue. He went on to talk about possible up coming murder charges more then once.

Well who ever let the cat out of the bag, this complaint smells like JB, all over it.

I heard that too but I think Strickland has a more professional approach and would know when he has to catch himself. I wouldn't doubt if JB slipped more than once since he can't stop talking sometimes. I noticed he complains and whines quite alot. He did in the motion hearing. :rolleyes:
 
  • #111
Can a case go before the GJ more then once? If they decided there wasn't enough evidence to proceed, then LE turned up a key piece, such as a db or an eye witness?

Speaking in general here, not any specific case...

TIA

Yes, I believe it can, but probably not the same GJ. If this GJ votes not enough evidence to indict, they can gather more evidence and present it to another GJ in the future.
 
  • #112
"What is there not to believe in"? I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of the state's secret proceedings, would you? Philosophically, no democracy should have secret proceedings against a citizen of that state.

I don't know why Baez should be criticized for holding an opinion about grand jury proceedings by the state.

I think he should seek another profession then, because GJ proceedings are common in just about every state. Some states have a choice of a GJ or a preliminary trial. (CA comes to mind, because of the SP case.) I read that FL does not have prelims, but am not positive on that. It's obvious to me that Baez's whining about such matters just shows a lack of experience. If he had confidence in his client's innocence, it would not bother him at all.
 
  • #113
Originally Posted by MiraclesHappen
Back when JB had a second client (that we knew of) it was reported on the news that he was late enough in getting to Court (and delaying proceedings) so that the Judge made it clear that JB's tardiness was not appreciated.

Meanwhile it was also reported that JB had made a conscious decision to delay setting out for this Court to avoid the media frenzy and the throngs of reporters that would be following him...

EXCEPT, it was pointed out that at his destination there was NOT ONE member of the media, no frenzy, no nuthin.
I found that amusing. Talk about the wind being sucked out of the sails...
JB needs to understand that the frenzy is all about the Casey case, and nothing about the JB.

AMEN to that Miracles!!!!!! I love the part of "the wind being sucked out of the sails" thanks I needed that laugh this morning! I was so upset after seeing TM on the news this morning and the possiblity of him leaving.

ROFLMAO1.gif


JB should know better!!!!! lol
 
  • #114
I find it repulsive that news organization would twist reality to report that George will testify against his daughter and the fact that the gj will even convene and when.


Why? He's not exactly being called as a defence witness, so I think it's a fair description to say he's being called to testify against her.
 
  • #115
I meant the "state" as an entity, not the individual state. Look, I don't see any reason to hate Jose Baez or anyone for that matter in this case. Baez is doing exactly what he should be doing which is to defend his client to the best of his ability and he's doing a very good job of it. I don't see his criticism is "whining" and he doesn't need confidence in his client's innocence in order to defend her. That's his job. I don't see any lack of experience either - so far he's had eight motions heard in a case where there have not even been any charges. I doubt that anything like that is done very often in the system - no defense attorney "likes grand jury proceedings" because it is one-sided and a prosecutor can almost always get a bill against someone.

I agree with Baez's opinion about grand juries. I don't like them either, but that doesn't mean that Baez is a bad guy for having an opinion about the system. You can still work within a system even if you think it needs to improve or change.

JMO
 
  • #116
This is ridiculous. It's not like the media will be sitting inside listening and posting what's going on. Secrecy as to the facts of the case and whether KC will be indicted is intact. It's just JB being his usual baby-ish self. Waaaahhhh!
 
  • #117
Not to belabour a point, but why is JB a "baby" for doing his best to defend his client? If you were his client wouldn't you want him to do his most zealous best in defending you?
 
  • #118
If the GJ says the state has a case will Casey be charged with murder and arrested immediately?

Regarding Jose Baez.....I think his assistant is 100% better attorney than he is.
 
  • #119
Umm, what is there not to believe in? the GJ isn't sending his client to jail.

MMB,
I believe in Santa :santa:and the Grand Jury:grouphug:. I anticipate good things from both this year...:D

:gift::xmastree: :present::present::behindbar​
 
  • #120
I think he should seek another profession then, because GJ proceedings are common in just about every state. Some states have a choice of a GJ or a preliminary trial. (CA comes to mind, because of the SP case.) I read that FL does not have prelims, but am not positive on that. It's obvious to me that Baez's whining about such matters just shows a lack of experience. If he had confidence in his client's innocence, it would not bother him at all.

I am guessing when you say "prelim" you are referring to what I call a "probable cause hearing." They have 'em here.:blowkiss:

The big thing with the GJ, and I think NG has stated it as well...not that that puts it in Black's law Dictionary, is that you cannot get a capital crime complaint going except by GJ in Florida.
So while we do not know if they are seeking to charge...death penalty crime, we know it is still a possibility,as it is the GJ route or none for that in Florida. :blowkiss:
 
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