Casey, "Don't worry, I haven't said anything.."

[FX Wiz]

We gotta add a few things to that timeline too.
June 9th - A laptop is stolen fron ANOTHER Zenaida Gonzalez who(what I read on this site) works at UCF.
June 10th - a young woman was murdered in Blanchard park. She was a grad student helping counsel troubled families at UCF

(http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65962

A composite sketch of a person seen near the park was put out, and it looks eerily like LA
http://.net/index.php?topic=4198.1740

June 16th- Channel 9, the most widely watched newscasters on Central Fla aired a story about the FBI doing forensics in Blanchard park to find clues re N. Ganduzza murder.

http://www.wftv.com/news/16623103/detail.html

Could LA & KS be evil partners in crime against humanity? Did CA really see a therapist at UCF? Did KS want the intern counseler bumped off and LA does her bidding? Did Lee try incest with KS when they were little and KS knows he's a perv but still trusted him to babysit (explains where baby was on dates that aren't accounted for before 6/15) and she's covering for him? Isn't it better if only one of them took the rap rather than both, and that's his secret CMA promise, and is why KS said to her parents on jail video "well at least you have Lee"?

 

[seagull65]

Yes, at least Cindy behaved somewhat appropriately attempting to get info re Caylee etc, though I am not sure that wasn't all an act.

George on the other hand, never asked one question about Caylee, and seemed far more interested in the job opportunities this was opening up for him & Lee. And, I wasn't surprised when Casey said she prefers talking to George because he doesn't ask questions.

If it hasn't already been done maybe the old thread on this (original post question) could be bumped up/merged with this one. Though it could be somewhere inside some long thread where it's hard to find.

I had always wondered the same thing about the, "I haven't said anything". She also told her parents in a similar way that the media would never get anything out of her and that LE would get nothing further from her, etc. as if this was a good thing, as if there was something she wasn't supposed to tell, whatever it is. (A scam they all know about? and that's why they hadn't questioned where she was going to work for 2 years, because they knew what she (and others) were doing (and this was what GA was either tipping LE off to or covering up, one or the other, with the mention of the Nigerian online money scam)? Abuse in the family or addiction in the family, or crime int he family, or something she holds over their head? Or do they just have a family or cultural code about not cooperating with LE or about not talking to outsiders? A secret about Caylee's death or coverup of the death? A secret about an accidental death as the result of some criminal activity, or what? ) I never did quite believe George's account of seeing KC and Caylee on June 16th, because who would remember, 31 days after, what their relatives had been wearing 31 days before, unless they had had a reason to remember, you know? (Unless he really did just think he'd seen them but was mistaken.) Anyway, this and so many questions remain unanswered in this case. I definitely don't think we have the whole picture yet.

someone else here said, had KC threatened suicide and they felt guilty they hadn't pursued or something....I wondered early on if KC had possibly attempted a murder suicide of herself and Caylee but she woke up from the chloroform and Caylee didn't, or if KC and Caylee had both been accidentally or purposefully chloroformed by someone and only KC survived. Or is there another crime that hasn't been picked up on yet, etc. So many questions remain

for example, another question I know I wondered about early on, just thinking outside the box, what if they (or some in the family) already knew who had Caylee or who had hurt or killed her, and already retaliated?

 

[FX Wiz]

Oh, and the xanax thing. I agree. I was a single dad w/custody years ago (he's 28 now, bless him) and I used to say "hey I got a Japanese babysitter... her name's Nintendo, lol.

 

[MAMABEAR]

Something is coming together and it is being discussed on 3-4 different threads. Does anybody else see this?

 

[seagull65]

right, any possible connection to Nicole's murder in Jay Blanchard Park, etc, good to see that discussion revived

and whatever it was that KC wasn't supposed to tell, how did it result in Caylee being the one getting hurt? Or was whatever else that was going on just a sideline and not connected.

 

[seagull65]

oh, has the old thread on it been bumped up somewhere else?

 

[MAMABEAR]

oh, has the old thread on it been bumped up somewhere else?

No. But right now there are things being discussed on other threads that are touching on the same thang

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

We gotta add a few things to that timeline too.
June 9th - A laptop is stolen fron ANOTHER Zenaida Gonzalez who(what I read on this site) works at UCF.
June 10th - a young woman was murdered in Blanchard park. She was a grad student helping counsel troubled families at UCF

(http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65962

A composite sketch of a person seen near the park was put out, and it looks eerily like LA
http://.net/index.php?topic=4198.1740

June 16th- Channel 9, the most widely watched newscasters on Central Fla aired a story about the FBI doing forensics in Blanchard park to find clues re N. Ganduzza murder.

http://www.wftv.com/news/16623103/detail.html

Could LA & KS be evil partners in crime against humanity? Did CA really see a therapist at UCF? Did KS want the intern counseler bumped off and LA does her bidding? Did Lee try incest with KS when they were little and KS knows he's a perv but still trusted him to babysit (explains where baby was on dates that aren't accounted for before 6/15) and she's covering for him? Isn't it better if only one of them took the rap rather than both, and that's his secret CMA promise, and is why KS said to her parents on jail video "well at least you have Lee"?

OMG...that pic has me creeped out...it looks exactly like Lee, but with dark make-up. The hairline is identical. Was the sketch done before July 15th?

 

[starpatch]

If it was about Caylee being killed- could it have been that Caylee got hurt badly during the alleged CA & KC fight. KC, took her and ran out and the child was screaming or crying in pain and KC silenced her with the tape and the child died, or KC finished her off.
I do believe CA lied when she claimed she tucked KC & Caylee in bed on the night of the fight- CA denies there was a fight- Is this the big secret-

Just read your therory....I had never thought of that...you may be onto something.

It is a horrid thought though.

Maybe that is why the whole fam seems peculiar. They are all in it, but, then why did granny call the 911?

I bet she rues the night she did that.

They could have covered it all up if they had sent casey to California...no one would be any the wiser.:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

 

[LisaNY]

Would be very interesting to know what case load the UCF student was working on at the time of her death. Did she work directly with the ZG that had her office robbed? Also, did she perhaps have information regarding the robbery? Tooo many coincidences. Don't know about that sketch though. I am sure whoever provided the description has seen la in the news since then. But on the other hand, that would explain the reluctance to provide le with DNA. (not wanting to be linked to another murder investingation) So many twists, I can hardly follow my own line of thinking.

 

[cleo612]

I am using my son's computer while mine is in for repairs--it is old and has no sound, so I cannot go back and listen for myself.

Does anyone have the EXACT wording of what was said by George when he told Casey that "certain things might come out" that they did not want out?

Also, it would be very helpful (to me, at least) if those words, as well as any words spoken by Cindy and/or Casey surrounding this colossal secret, could be listed in one post instead of several. One of those comments was made when Casey mentioned that she had to talk to the jail psychologist.

I have been haunted by these conversations ever since the first time something was mentioned as being verboten to speak about.

This is something major--something that could affect the whole family, I think (other than little Caylee's murder).

 

[LisaNY]

What could possibly be a bigger "secret" then the murder of an innocent 2 year old baby? As far as I am concerned nothing could be bigger ... except perhaps a murder of another innocent child ... I do not even want to let my mind go there tonight.

 

[MAMABEAR]

There is another sketch that looks like KC. Has a hood on.

 

[cleo612]

Bolded---> I have wondered that also. To me---> they don't look for the kidnapper because they were very deep into the cover up and when they got into cover up mode--they stayed there, with no plea for the peeps to bring baby home. Also when CA ask KC what she wanted to say to Zanny she says----"That I forgive her". Hellooooooo. You forgive her? Who? Herself?

This was odd to me also. "That I forgive her," but did she ever say "So please bring my baby home to her family?"

 

[cleo612]

Also, were those words from George about "things might come out" spoken before or after his interview with the FBI wherein they told him about the "bad pictures," etc?

 

[cleo612]

I think it unlikely she would, though possible. I do think she is covering something for them though, just not sure what. Maybe they all knew on June 16th, and they want to make sure she didn't tell LE that? On top of all this, I still really wonder what George meant when he talked about things coming out if this goes on too long.

Yeah, George really made it sound like it was something from the past--not that it was a recent event.

 

[gunther]

Does anyone else see a possible connection between KC's need for money and GA's loss of money in a "Nigerian scam"? I can't see a former law enforcement type falling for a scam like that.
If CA had not called 911 that night, could she have been possibly facing charges for anything that might have happened to KLee? Especially after having smelled the car.

 

[cleo612]

From what I understand LE already knows the idenity of Caylee's father, but they feel revealing that information has nothing to do with the case against KC. So, I don't think Caylee's bio Dad is the secret that the Anthony's are hiding.

What makes you think that law enforcement knows who Caylee's father is? As of October, they were still looking for confirmation through DNA comparison from the FBI in order to see if Lee was the father. Did something change since then?

 

[cleo612]

There is another sketch that looks like KC. Has a hood on.

Where is the other sketch? Do you have a link, please?

 

[MAMABEAR]

On my puter